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#451143 - 03/09/16 11:05 AM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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Registered: 08/24/15
Posts: 29
Loc: NY
Whoa,

This thread is heavy.
If you're there I have something for you.

I felt the same as you, and in many ways it was a weird kind of gift. I got through it, and remember it well. Now I feel something tremendous, I call it ANTI-Depression: It hits you in that same spot of your head where the pain came from, but it is like a high. It is actually quite awesome. I usually feel it when my kids make me laugh.


If you are still intent on going through with it, then I found the best advice:

Feeling suicidal? Good, then the world is your oyster.
If you really don't care, then you are free from fear. Instead of killing yourself, get out of your house, your apartment, even your country. Go do something incredible: get hunt terrorists, fight sharks, walk to new countries...you were intent on suicide, which has a 100% death rate, so what are you afraid of now? Take the barrel out of your mouth and do something awesome. Move to some weird country, start a revolution, hitch-hike, drink in weird bars, etc.. You may just find out that the world is not such a bad place afterall.
(adapted from a more explicit message)

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#451145 - 03/09/16 12:06 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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I almost had a career break through yesterday. I thought I could convince a professional athlete to buy instead of rent, but no luck. I'm still trying to find him a rental. Won't say who it is though.

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#451146 - 03/09/16 12:31 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
FedallahX Offline
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Registered: 08/24/15
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Well, then, there you go. Things already seem a little better. Just remember that you can work as much as you want, but you are not only your job.

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#451190 - 03/10/16 10:05 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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Posts: 146
Loc: FL
I agree. My broker taught me to stick to the routine of saying affirmation and gratitude everyday. They really help.

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#451191 - 03/10/16 10:52 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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Loc: Dallas, TX
I personally don't really want to do expired prospecting anymore. I actually want to look for ways to get listings without FSBO and Expired hunting. I know a lot of agents suggest using the phone to get appointments with people, but I just really don't like the idea of using the phone to prospect to be honest. People who never met you aren't going to recommend you based on a phone call, and having to call 100 people to get one listing seems to be a waste of time to me.

Also, I calculated that with going after expired listings, if the success rate is 5%, that means I'll get about 2-3 listings per year. There just aren't expired listings on a regular basis here the way there used to be.

Somehow, many agents are listing a large volume without having to go after FSBOs and Expired listings, so there has to be a way to do it.

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#451200 - 03/11/16 07:01 AM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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Registered: 08/22/14
Posts: 146
Loc: FL
Looking around, these listing agents are more established in certain neighborhoods or have been around for years. My broker actually taught us it's better to work with buyers. I have several buyers that were happy with my service and then asked me to sell their houses or their relatives'. It also diminishes the likelihood of cutting commission to compete with others. It was so much easier. Give you an Example, My friend's mother was a cash buyer that was interested in an area. I went around knocking on doors and posting flyers for hours. 1 person out of many responded and told me she and her parents were just about to list their place. Long story short, the transaction didn't happen because the friend's mother was unreasonable. The sellers listed with someone else anyway because that listing agent was more established in the neighborhood and spoke Spanish. How can I compete with that! My old broker told me to last is to list. That was so frustrating and discouraging to me when I was new to the business. My new broker said help your buyers especially the first time home buyers. It's more gratifying and they are social media savvy. They advertise for you for free. The Sellers from their referrals trust me already and they are more likely to take my advice on listing price etc. Plus, being the buyer's realtor makes more commission. If you ever help a buyer buy a bank owned home, you'll see that you make more money than the listing agent.My current broker's point of view makes so much more sense.


Edited by June2012 (03/11/16 07:03 AM)

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#451212 - 03/11/16 01:52 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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Loc: Dallas, TX
That's good advice. The problem is first time home buyers who can qualify for mortgages is so far and few between. I got maybe two out of around 20-30 in the past several months I talked to that were actually eligible and one of them bought. It was just a lot of time to work with those people for them to not be qualified. Back in early 2007, with internet leads our company was sponsoring, I had maybe 2 buyers out of about 60 that were qualified to buy and both of them changed their minds.

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#451224 - 03/12/16 12:25 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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Loc: Dallas, TX
I'm going to Lowe's soon to get 6 feet of rope to keep in my car in the event I decide to use it in the next week or so, because my last few shreds of hope are on the line right now. It's just that I'm turning 29 in a few months and I really don't have many years left to make something of myself. All my contributions are in the past.

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#451225 - 03/12/16 12:41 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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#451226 - 03/12/16 02:18 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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Loc: Dallas, TX
Another problem is agents at the office are talking about how they are getting business mostly from their friends who they hang out with and see regularly. That's not going to work for me, because I don't have any friends except for on the internet.

I'm going to do some more FSBO hunting today. However, my plan for FSBO is about a 3 month plan of contact before I expect them to either list or I don't make anymore contact with them.

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#451227 - 03/12/16 02:54 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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Registered: 03/12/16
Posts: 2
Loc: los angeles
i like pocketmynt because i can see other agent's pocket or off market properties and impress my buyers.
does anyone else use pocketmynt site?

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#451230 - 03/12/16 05:50 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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Loc: Dallas, TX
My next plan is to go through the obituaries and then try and get widows and widowers to sell their homes after their spouse died.

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#451231 - 03/12/16 06:16 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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Loc: Vermont's North-East Kingdom
Originally Posted By: Granta Omega
My next plan is to go through the obituaries and then try and get widows and widowers to sell their homes after their spouse died.

That's similar to Attorneys Chasing Ambulances; but you'd be chasing Hearses ?
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#451233 - 03/12/16 06:34 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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Registered: 05/01/15
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Loc: Dallas, TX
Well I'm not going to go to the funeral home to prospect, so I think the hearse will be out of the picture.

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#451235 - 03/12/16 06:59 PM Re: How are expired listings still being prospected? [Re: Granta Omega]
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Registered: 11/02/10
Posts: 1094
Loc: Virginia
Originally Posted By: Granta Omega
Another problem is agents at the office are talking about how they are getting business mostly from their friends who they hang out with and see regularly. That's not going to work for me, because I don't have any friends except for on the internet.

I'm going to do some more FSBO hunting today. However, my plan for FSBO is about a 3 month plan of contact before I expect them to either list or I don't make anymore contact with them.


I wouldn't stop at contacting them. If you could get their email address and put it in your contact list on your website (if you have one), you can generate a monthly sales sheet of homes sold around their neighborhood or home. Some eventually come around to calling you; but, don't expect every single one of them to - it just doesn't happen that. No one gets all the listings.

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