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#82373 - 03/18/06 02:38 PM Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Hi,
My out of state clients had a very smelly carpet in a home that was closed up for over a year. You can imagine the odor of cat spray after a year in a hot house. We convinced them to replace the carpet but could not convince them to have the slab underneath treated. Now we've got a new carpet and the smell is coming back just like the carpet guy said. I heard of a chemical that can be sprayed on the carpet to neutrolize the smell but cannot remember what it was. Does anyone know of anything that will help? This house will not sell like it is
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#82374 - 03/18/06 02:44 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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I've never used it but hear that atmosklear is very good and may do the trick.

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#82375 - 03/18/06 03:20 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Febreze! Lot's and lot's of Febreze!! Write that down.
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#82376 - 03/18/06 03:31 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Are you sure Febreeze will work? I thought maybe there was some kind of industrial strength solution that might be available.
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#82377 - 03/18/06 03:36 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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#82378 - 03/18/06 03:36 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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I was kidding. I would imagine it has soaked into the wood flooring under the carpet. I would contact a carpet cleaning service in that area and explain. See if they have any ideas.
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#82379 - 03/18/06 03:37 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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I think there's some stuff called Urine Gone http://www.urinegone.com/?cid=174864 that is supposed to break down the enzymes and clear the smell but then again, there's probably a hundred products that claim the same thing. Sorry to hear about your dilemma. Hope everything works out.
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#82380 - 03/18/06 03:38 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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It is a concrete slab underneath. The carpet guy was going to use some kind of enzyme to kill the smell but my cheap sellers would'nt go for it. Is'nt Kilz for walls? Could the smell seep into the walls? They were all repainted except for the bedrooms.
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#82381 - 03/18/06 03:39 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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If that doesn't work, have 3 dogs pee on the carpet, it just might negate the cat pee smell! jk
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#82382 - 03/18/06 03:42 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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okay if its concrete use Bacteria Blast, it's cheap. I wouldn't think it would seep in to walls.
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#82383 - 03/18/06 03:48 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Where can you find bacteria blast? Should I check with janitorial services, they have all kinds of cleaning agents.
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#82384 - 03/18/06 03:58 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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You know what....use Bleach, it will kill everything. It will also be much cheaper than industrial grade bacteria blast.
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#82385 - 03/18/06 04:48 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Bleach won't work. I had a listing like this and we tore up the carpet washed with bleach took the tack strips up, and got an air filter (ozone) and ran it 24 hrs a day for a week. Took care of it until we turned the heat on b/c cats tend to urinate down the duct work. Wonderful thought I know. Some how we were able to sell it.

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#82386 - 03/18/06 05:06 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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I have brand new carpeting down. Bleach is out of the question. I have a ozone filter running. I need to know where to get a chemical that will kill the smell on a carpet. The Bacteria Blast sounds promising, anyone know where to get it?
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#82387 - 03/18/06 05:12 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Thank myoklahome for a chance at a solution. I think what you mentioned might be what I was thinking about. I'll give it a shot.
Thanks!
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#82388 - 03/18/06 05:39 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Pull the carpet up carefully, bleach the slab and tack strip, clean the back of the carpet, relay and steam clean.
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#82389 - 03/18/06 05:43 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Quote: I think there's some stuff called Urine Gone

It's called Vapoohrize.
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#82390 - 03/18/06 06:13 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Cant use bacteria blaster on carpet. Sorry, I was under the assumption the new carpet hadn't been laid yet.
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#82391 - 03/18/06 06:24 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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#82392 - 03/18/06 08:28 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Call ServPro and have them come "disinfect" the house and carpet. I have colleagues who have done this and made a huge difference.

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#82393 - 03/18/06 08:52 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Actually there is a product called "Zorbex". It neutralizes unpleasant odors. You can order it on line from "Big Ds". It really works!
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#82394 - 03/18/06 09:28 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Paint the slab with Kilz and that should take care of the problem as it will seal the slab.
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#82395 - 03/19/06 02:54 AM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Fire is very sanitizing \:D
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#82396 - 03/19/06 06:13 AM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Paint the slab with Kilz and that should take care of the problem as it will seal the slab.
This does work. You will have to take the carpet up to do this. Any application on the carpet itself will probably just be temporary, because the cat smell will come back if it is on the slab. You can also treat wood floors with Kilz. It works great.
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#82397 - 03/19/06 06:47 AM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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I wouldn't use Kilz on a slab. If at some later time someone wanted to lay tile or wood you wouldn't want to put your thin set or glue on what is basically a layer of paint. Bleach and water is the correct and cheapest way to go.
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#82398 - 03/19/06 07:28 AM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Why not air the stench out by first cleaning the carpet by hiring a professional carpet cleaner and than leaving the doors and window`s opened for 12-15 hrs.

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#82399 - 03/19/06 08:23 AM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Bleach and water is a temporary solution and the smell will definately return as cat urine contains a protein that will permeate the concrete. Sealing the slab is the only way to permanently stop the odor.
If someone later wants to lay tile or wood they can strip the floor or better yet lay a subfloor which is the recommended way of doing it so the floor will not be as cold.

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Originally posted by Tucker TX:
I wouldn't use Kilz on a slab. If at some later time someone wanted to lay tile or wood you wouldn't want to put your thin set or glue on what is basically a layer of paint. Bleach and water is the correct and cheapest way to go.
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#82400 - 03/19/06 09:58 AM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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You really can't go wrong using bleach. It's going to go where ever any other liquid went. Anytime I've used bleach and it has been a permanent solution. There are plenty of concrete sealants available, Kilz is just not a good idea. From looking at the label, they don't mention this type application. It's really more of a sheetrock type sealant, although they do also mention masonary, as in vertical walls (cinder block, ect.)

Sub-floors are rare in this area. 99% of our floors are installed directly to the slab.
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#82401 - 03/19/06 10:39 AM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Tucker,
My carpet and flooring sub-contractor swears by Kilz. It is cheaper than most concrete sealants and effectively does the job and is easy to apply.

I did a rehab job last year(Jan) where the previous owner had anywhere between 19-30 cats at a time. Floors were so bad it had gotten into the wood floors and basement concrete. Tried the bleach route but it failed badly. Luckly we had not gotten the carpet down and the smell returned after 2 days. Asked our carpet sub and he recommended the Kilz. We painted it and smell was gone. I tend to trust someone who has been installing flooring for 20 years so I for one will stick with the Kilz and forego the bleach which did not get the job done for me.
If the product will seal verticle block walls it will also work on concrete floors.


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You really can't go wrong using bleach. It's going to go where ever any other liquid went. Anytime I've used bleach and it has been a permanent solution. There are plenty of concrete sealants available, Kilz is just not a good idea. From looking at the label, they don't mention this type application. It's really more of a sheetrock type sealant, although they do also mention masonary, as in vertical walls (cinder block, ect.)

Sub-floors are rare in this area. 99% of our floors are installed directly to the slab.
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#82402 - 03/19/06 10:45 AM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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ServPro has some process where they come in and "disinfect" by spraying something in the house. It gets smoke out of walls from a 40 yr smoker living in a home, all kinds of odors. It doesn't mask it, it eliminates it. I have tons of allergies and cannot stand the Febreze and other products that just "mask" the problem.

Also, beware of bleach as it is very hazardous. If you had a choice between mold in a shower or bleach, the mold would be safer for your respiratory system in most cases.

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#82403 - 03/22/06 10:38 AM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Paul,

I just picked up a listing and have the same cat problem. It's vacant and we are swapping out the carpet.

Kilz has a few different varieties out there; did you use a specific one? The Kilz 2 latex primer is cheaper than the concrete sealers.

Also, about how many sq ft do you get out of a gallon? I've got about 1150 sq. ft. to seal.

Thanks!
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#82404 - 03/22/06 11:16 AM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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I use the KILZ Original-Low VOC
You get about 370sf from a gallon.


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Originally posted by AuburnFootball:
Paul,

I just picked up a listing and have the same cat problem. It's vacant and we are swapping out the carpet.

Kilz has a few different varieties out there; did you use a specific one? The Kilz 2 latex primer is cheaper than the concrete sealers.

Also, about how many sq ft do you get out of a gallon? I've got about 1150 sq. ft. to seal.

Thanks!
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#82405 - 03/22/06 12:15 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Great, thanks!
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#82406 - 03/22/06 04:50 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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From Kilz web site:

"KILZ® Original – Low V.O.C.

KILZ Original Low V.O.C. (Volatile Organic Compound) provides the maximum stainblocking properties of KILZ Original primer in a low V.O.C. formula. It blocks most odors and creates an excellent base coat for latex or oil-base paint. Use KILZ Original Low V.O.C. primer formula on almost all interior surfaces including furniture, drywall, plaster, woodwork, paneling, wallpaper, masonry, brick, painted metal, and properly prepared glossy surfaces."

Specific FAQ:

"To block pet odors:

KILZ Original or KILZ Odorless primers

KILZ Original primer and KILZ Odorless primer are the ideal primers for sealing in odors, especially those created by pets. KILZ Original primer or KILZ Odorless primer can be applied to flooring, walls, and baseboards. For severe odors, two coats are recommended. NOTE: KILZ Original primer or KILZ Odorless primer should only be applied on flooring when carpet or tile will be applied." End.


I was unable to find any mention of an application of this product to a slab. I would suggest you contact customer service as I suspect they may advise against type of app.

http://www.kilz.com/
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#82407 - 03/22/06 05:26 PM Re: Need Help With Smelly Carpet!
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Tucker,
Concrete counts as masonry and despite your skeptism the Kilz works! It is nice to see that you took time out of your busy day to research it. Sorry that you were unable to find anything to backup your position.
The reason the bleach is not a permanent solution is cause the urine is deep in the concrete and the bleach will evaporate long before it reaches the source of the odor. If it was a surface stain then bleach would do it but not having soaked into concrete over years.

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Originally posted by Tucker TX:
From Kilz web site:

"KILZ® Original – Low V.O.C.

KILZ Original Low V.O.C. (Volatile Organic Compound) provides the maximum stainblocking properties of KILZ Original primer in a low V.O.C. formula. It blocks most odors and creates an excellent base coat for latex or oil-base paint. Use KILZ Original Low V.O.C. primer formula on almost all interior surfaces including furniture, drywall, plaster, woodwork, paneling, wallpaper, masonry, brick, painted metal, and properly prepared glossy surfaces."

Specific FAQ:

"To block pet odors:

KILZ Original or KILZ Odorless primers

KILZ Original primer and KILZ Odorless primer are the ideal primers for sealing in odors, especially those created by pets. KILZ Original primer or KILZ Odorless primer can be applied to flooring, walls, and baseboards. For severe odors, two coats are recommended. NOTE: KILZ Original primer or KILZ Odorless primer should only be applied on flooring when carpet or tile will be applied." End.


I was unable to find any mention of an application of this product to a slab. I would suggest you contact customer service as I suspect they may advise against type of app.

http://www.kilz.com/
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