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#62737 - 02/27/05 05:51 PM
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Depends, do you have the logging setup to filter out your IP, web developer's IP, etc so that those aren't included, while updating something developers have a tendency to check (double check, etc) contributing to some hits?
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#62739 - 02/28/05 12:52 PM
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Stats viewed in isolation are pretty much meaningless. You need to have an in-depth analysis of exactly where the traffic is coming from, what files are being requested, etc. and that requires access to the raw log files.
Stats are often presented selectively or wrongly in order to make it look like a site is getting lots of traffic so without seeing the stats in-depth - they really mean little.
In the past I often received emails from the clients of one template company wondering why their stats showed they were getting terrific traffic but their site could not be found in any search engine, they had no Alexa rank at all (back when people actually used Alexa), and they received no leads. The template company swears the stats are accurate but all the "signs" say they are not.
This happens a lot and not just with the one template company. Unless you have access to the raw log files I would not focus on the stats - focus on the results you are getting from your site as a measurement of success.
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#62741 - 02/28/05 03:47 PM
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How do you rank with Google/Yahoo/DMOZ ?
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#62743 - 03/01/05 05:38 AM
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Loc: Oklahoma
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Well do you have any results within them... for instance, go to google and type in site:www.buyfredericksburgrealestate.com and see what it comes up with, it will show the pages it has indexed of your site.
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#62745 - 03/02/05 10:53 PM
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According to www.marketleap.com You've got 18 different specific pages linking to your site. You've got 1 page in google's index, and 9 in MSN's. If you're really interested in getting some real useful statistics from your website I'd suggest a user tracking system like XAV's AXS (http://www.xav.com/axs) you put a little bit of HTML at the bottom of each page and you can find out where people are coming from, where they go and how long they stay on certain pages.
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#62748 - 03/07/05 11:16 AM
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I've never used anything but marketleaps online tools so I can't help you much in that respect. MarketLeap doesn't show page rank, but you can check that via numerous websites, search google for "pank rank calculator" or something similar.
edit: I think you're talking about AXS correct? What errors do you get during the automatic install?
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#62751 - 03/07/05 06:17 PM
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It sounds like the username and password you entered in were incorrect. Does that username and password work for you? Are you sure there are not any errors?
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#62753 - 03/08/05 02:40 PM
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Good luck, post up again if you've got any more questions or problems.
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#62756 - 05/02/05 07:49 PM
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I have been tweaking my site for the past few months and am averaging 2 to 3 calls a week from it. I set the search string to words most people in my area are not using so my site comes up in the top ten. I'm not a website pro by any means but the leads I get from it translate into a great website with a presence. Mike www.liveinvisalia.com
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#62759 - 07/02/05 06:47 PM
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Loc: Laguna Beach, California
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I wonder why so many people are interested in "conversion questions"? What does it matter?
If I collect 1,000 visitors email addresses (leads) and sell 1 home, is that better then collecting 100 leads and selling 2 homes, or is selling 2 homes from 10,000 leads better?
My question is... Why do people ask these questions??? Why do people care about conversion rates???
Conversion rates are meaningless! I can get ANYONE 10,000 leads to their website in one month, and I bet you will get NO business from it. But if I got you ONE lead that resulted in 1 closed transaction, wouldn't you like that better? Or lets look at it the other way, I got 100,000 leads to your website last month, and that resulted in 2 closed transactions resulting in $10,000 in commissions. But golly, you only got a .02% conversion rate... is that a bad thing??? or is that a good thing??? If I could accomplish one thing in life, that would be to never be asked again what conversion rate is, or what conversion rate they can expect.
We were gathering TONS of leads (email addresses) per day, but we had search engine optimized our website for the search term "Southern California Real Estate", which got a LOT of hits. But since we ONLY sell in Orange County, a ton of those leads were for areas an hour or more away. We spent too much time trying to contact these leads only to find out we didn't want to work them. (we also wasted too much time referring out dead-ends) When we started targeting ONLY the cities we wanted to work in, our hits went way down, but our business went way up. BUt to even more improve our "conversion rate", we could narrow down our lead collection to only those we KNOW would do business with us, se we could have a 100% conversion rate... but what would that really mean?
The bottom line is, target your website, collect as many targeted email addresses/leads as you can, have a GOOD follow-up program in place, and let the conversion rates fall where they may since they really are meaningless.
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#62762 - 07/18/05 10:55 PM
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Loc: Laguna Beach, California
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"People ask conversion questions because they are directly related to the success and profitability of a website."
of course coverting visitors to $ is the main reason of having a website, but asking conversion percentages, or asking how many covert is meaningless. As stated above, if I told you I have a 3% conversion percent, is that better or worse then you? I may have 2 visitors per month, so it would take me a LONG time to convert 3%. But if I get 400,000 visitors per day, a 3% conversion would be HUGE!
Of course you need to convert, but don't ask what the "norm" is... your conversion ratio really depends on how well your website is constructed to "convert" and how well you target your visitors.
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#62763 - 07/19/05 07:55 AM
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Hello Kassie, you should add a robots.txt file and block robots from indexing the file 'listingsearch.php' The appended session-ID is only valid for the user ( in case of a search engine the robot ) and would not work for anyone clicking this indexed link.
Sincerely Helmut P. Fleischhauer
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#62765 - 07/19/05 10:18 PM
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And on that note I'll reiterate a comment I had made earlier which was so frowned on by the 'experts';
'conversion' is not a closed sale, it is the process of transforming quantity (visitors)into quality (callers). I agree, a website is incapable of making a sale, it can only comfort a visitor that they are making the right decisions in being there.
'Conversion' now has meaning, it's the ability of the site to move people forward in the process.
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This Google Custom search may do a better job of searching the forums for some keywords than the old forum search does. The results do not include threads from the Asset Managers Forum however. To search that forum you will need to be actually in the Asset Managers Forum and you will need to use the old forum search below.
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