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#6263 - 04/12/06 01:40 PM RealEstatePromoter.com
Perry Offline
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Registered: 03/08/06
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Loc: Toronto
Can anyone tell me about this company. I just spoke with one of their reps and it seems too good to be true. I'd appreciate any USEFUL input. Thanks.
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#6264 - 04/12/06 02:15 PM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
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Posts: 994
Loc: New Jersey
You MUST be joking. Condition #3 of their "$25,000 guarantee", which I found in about 30 seconds:

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Use all the tools and techniques. If you can honestly say you have not made at least $25,000 in commissions that you know you would not have made without us, and you have made an honest effort to use and market your Real Estate Promoter website, training and lead marketing strategies as we suggest, simply cancel your site during the 13th month, and we will write you a check equal to 50% of all the monthly hosting subscription fees you've paid during the year.
Big whoop-de-doo! Yet another vapid, worthless, guarantee from an internet lead aggregator. Please people, stop the madness. Get your asses out into your farms and become professionals already! You can't write a check to be a Realtor. You must actually WORK!!!!

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#6265 - 04/12/06 02:29 PM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
Tanya Offline
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Registered: 04/03/06
Posts: 304
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 Quote:
Originally posted by Perry:
Can anyone tell me about this company. I just spoke with one of their reps and it seems too good to be true. I'd appreciate any input. Thanks.
*sigh*

If it seems too good to be true then IT IS!!!!
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#6266 - 04/13/06 07:12 PM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
Perry Offline
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Registered: 03/08/06
Posts: 117
Loc: Toronto
 Quote:
Originally posted by navarac:
You MUST be joking. Condition #3 of their "$25,000 guarantee", which I found in about 30 seconds:

 Quote:
Use all the tools and techniques. If you can honestly say you have not made at least $25,000 in commissions that you know you would not have made without us, and you have made an honest effort to use and market your Real Estate Promoter website, training and lead marketing strategies as we suggest, simply cancel your site during the 13th month, and we will write you a check equal to 50% of all the monthly hosting subscription fees you've paid during the year.
Big whoop-de-doo! Yet another vapid, worthless, guarantee from an internet lead aggregator. Please people, stop the madness. Get your asses out into your farms and become professionals already! You can't write a check to be a Realtor. You must actually WORK!!!!
Navarac, I'm new to this forum but the first thing I learned was that you are an asshole.
I asked for input not putdown. Now go back in your troll hole.

Tanya, please try to be more original with your responses. I'm too old to be interested in platitudes.

Now, does anyone have a constructive answer to my question?
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#6267 - 04/13/06 07:39 PM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
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Registered: 02/11/06
Posts: 116
Loc: Las Vegas
No Long term commitment with the "minimum of gold package?"

They are very vague, what is not "long term" for $599.95/month??

Perry, I too got scammed by HV for $600/month, so I will never SIGN a contract, I would however consider a month-month that I can cancel with no penalty.

It just seems like you could get Search Engine Placement for a lot cheaper than that!

I have heard the Yellow Pages drive a lot trafic, anyone??

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#6268 - 04/13/06 07:44 PM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
Perry Offline
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Registered: 03/08/06
Posts: 117
Loc: Toronto
 Quote:
Originally posted by khansonlv:
No Long term commitment with the "minimum of gold package?"

They are very vague, what is not "long term" for $599.95/month??

Perry, I too got scammed by HV for $600/month, so I will never SIGN a contract, I would however consider a month-month that I can cancel with no penalty.

It just seems like you could get Search Engine Placement for a lot cheaper than that!

I have heard the Yellow Pages drive a lot trafic, anyone??
I agree, they are very vague.
BTW I subscribed to HV and was very successful with their leads but they cancelled me because I was to vocal on their forum and sent a couple of nasty emails to their 'mentors'. I think HV is very good for experienced realtors only. I am still working my leads that I paid for and am having good success. I would resubscribe if they allowed me. Again, you have to be experienced to work the leads. Persistence and patience is the key.
I've just started to work on the search engine thingy and hope to have some success with it. Thanks.
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#6269 - 04/13/06 08:09 PM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
AZ- Realtor Offline
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Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 626
Loc: AZ
My advice on these lead generation services is this - Don't feed your competition.

This is the way i see it, i can pay Homegain (if you must use someone, these are the guys to use) 30% of a commission into the office which would be a minimum of $600 in my market, most other markets will be 4 digits - or i can use that money for pay-per-clicks and get that traffic myself to my site and not have to compete with other agents.

How do you think these companies get people to go to their site so that they can refer out the business? They use pay-per-clicks to get people in. So, if you are doing PPC, why give money to another company just to bid up your click price?

Do yourself a favor, sign up to overture (owned by yahoo) or google and just set a budget your comfortable with and get the business that way.

Make sure you have a decent website. I recommend Point2Agent which is free (additional features cost, but start off free and see how you like it. I pay $40 a month right now and love it - lead captures, useful info etc).

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#6270 - 04/13/06 08:09 PM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
navarac Offline
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Registered: 01/19/06
Posts: 994
Loc: New Jersey
 Quote:
Originally posted by Perry:
I'm too old to be interested in platitudes.
Somehow I knew that.

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#6271 - 04/13/06 08:17 PM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
Perry Offline
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Registered: 03/08/06
Posts: 117
Loc: Toronto
 Quote:
Originally posted by navarac:
 Quote:
Originally posted by Perry:
I'm too old to be interested in platitudes.
Somehow I knew that.
Very droll, troll.
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#6272 - 04/14/06 04:18 AM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
realestate1 Offline
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Registered: 10/29/05
Posts: 330
Perry, Nav responded/attacked the "concept". You attacked him personally with your comment that he is an "ass...."

Who is the troll?
Who violated the rules of the forum?
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#6273 - 04/14/06 05:56 AM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
Tanya Offline
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Registered: 04/03/06
Posts: 304
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 Quote:
Originally posted by Perry:
Can anyone tell me about this company. I just spoke with one of their reps and it seems too good to be true. I'd appreciate any input. Thanks.
Perry,

I was merely reiterating what you already *seem* to know about the company. You said "it seems too good to be true". I am sorry that you didn't like my response.

I didn't see any reason to give a long sermon as to why these companies are worthless. My answer "If it seems too good to be true it is" may be old & trite (to you) but is still very appropriate when used to describe real estate gimmicks.

These companies live by the age-old adage: "There's a sucker born every minute"
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#6274 - 04/14/06 06:30 AM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
smg Offline
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Registered: 02/16/06
Posts: 2130
Loc: United States
Perry- I have been in the sales game for many, many years. I am relatively new to real estate. I have been hammered by these companies that are "too good to be true". I have never seeon one of them that came remotely close to delivering quality leads. since I got in real estate, I have been getting emails up the wazoo from these folks. I have not considered or even read the email...right in the kill file they go.
It is MY job to go out and get my leads. I will use my dollars for marketing myself and my business.
I have learned the hard way over the years that these are just a waste of money and time...Good luck...SG

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#6275 - 04/14/06 09:22 AM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
Perry Offline
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Registered: 03/08/06
Posts: 117
Loc: Toronto
 Quote:
Originally posted by TimandSusan:
Perry, Nav responded/attacked the "concept". You attacked him personally with your comment that he is an "ass...."

Who is the troll?
Who violated the rules of the forum?
Thanks for the reminder. I'm not here to get into a pissing contest but when I post a question on this forum I would prefer to receive an answer SPECIFIC to my question. I'm new to this forum (posting) but I have lurked here for some time and have learned who's advice I find helpful and who's I usually find worthless, frivolous or unproductive. Your friend 'Nav' is in the latter group.
Also, I have been a realtor for over 16 yrs. and have been successful because I have changed with the times. Lead generation companies are new to Canada and the only one I have tried was very successful but as I have said in other posts I was terminated by that company because of my forum behaviour. The moderators did not like my outspoken nature. That company was HouseValues.
I have also read a lot of anti HV stuff on this and many other forums but for me it was a success.
My real estate prospecting is not limited to lead generation systems. I farm, have websites and all of the other productive real estate endeavours but my ROI from HV leads was very high. I am not here to boost Housevalues by the way. The company has its problems and plenty of detractors but there are some of us who knew how to work the system properly.
So, when I asked a simple question about RealEstatePromoter.com I guess I was naieve and thought I might receive genuinely helpful responses.
My opinion of your friend stands but to Tanya I apologize.
Now, back to my original question: Has anyone had ACTUAL experience with RealEstatePromoter.com. Pro or Con. Thanks.
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#6276 - 04/14/06 09:30 AM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
Perry Offline
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Registered: 03/08/06
Posts: 117
Loc: Toronto
 Quote:
Originally posted by smgardner:
Perry- I have been in the sales game for many, many years. I am relatively new to real estate. I have been hammered by these companies that are "too good to be true". I have never seeon one of them that came remotely close to delivering quality leads. since I got in real estate, I have been getting emails up the wazoo from these folks. I have not considered or even read the email...right in the kill file they go.
It is MY job to go out and get my leads. I will use my dollars for marketing myself and my business.
I have learned the hard way over the years that these are just a waste of money and time...Good luck...SG
SG, thanks for your response. I am aware, like you, that there are a lot of companies who just love to take money from realtors looking to make an easy dollar. I agree with you that the best way to succeed in our business is thru hard work and persistence. I also agree that the leads that these companies provide are pretty lame BUT my experience has been that I could work a lot of them into being successful leads. I believe lead companies are not for inexperienced realtors. They have not gained the experience and talents to work these 'crappy' leads and give up on them too early and easily.
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#6277 - 06/04/06 10:43 AM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
MA/RI Realtor Offline
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Registered: 04/29/06
Posts: 32
Loc: MA &RI
I used RePromoter for about 9 months, leads were good in the first few months then terrible - THey must oversell the territory Stay away gets very expensive. I would not recommend them.

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#6278 - 06/04/06 11:48 AM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
Jflynn Offline
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Registered: 07/16/04
Posts: 2899
 Quote:
Originally posted by Perry:
I'd appreciate any USEFUL input.
This is a public forum and you can't control what people may post in reply to a thread. Just because you started a thread doesn't mean you get to set the rules. And you've already broken your own rule by posting useless replies.

Pot, meet kettle. \:\)

That said, I'm sure this lead aggregator is no different than the rest.
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#6279 - 06/04/06 04:12 PM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
Jim Lee Offline
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Registered: 07/01/99
Posts: 4785
Loc: Knoxville, Tennessee, Knox Cou...
 Quote:
Originally posted by Perry:
Can anyone tell me about this company. I just spoke with one of their reps and it seems too good to be true. I'd appreciate any USEFUL input. Thanks.
If you think that why not give them a try???

It appears to me to be a company renting mass produced, template 'website' that consumers are required to give their name and contact information to.

Most consumers don't want to do that and won't unless they think there's something in it for them.

I would not sign up with them personally but that's just me.
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#6280 - 06/05/06 06:19 AM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
smg Offline
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Registered: 02/16/06
Posts: 2130
Loc: United States
 Quote:
Originally posted by Perry:
 Quote:
Originally posted by navarac:
You MUST be joking. Condition #3 of their "$25,000 guarantee", which I found in about 30 seconds:

 Quote:
Use all the tools and techniques. If you can honestly say you have not made at least $25,000 in commissions that you know you would not have made without us, and you have made an honest effort to use and market your Real Estate Promoter website, training and lead marketing strategies as we suggest, simply cancel your site during the 13th month, and we will write you a check equal to 50% of all the monthly hosting subscription fees you've paid during the year.
Big whoop-de-doo! Yet another vapid, worthless, guarantee from an internet lead aggregator. Please people, stop the madness. Get your asses out into your farms and become professionals already! You can't write a check to be a Realtor. You must actually WORK!!!!
Navarac, I'm new to this forum but the first thing I learned was that you are an asshole.
I asked for input not putdown. Now go back in your troll hole.

Tanya, please try to be more original with your responses. I'm too old to be interested in platitudes.

Now, does anyone have a constructive answer to my question?
Perry- You may not have liked the delivery of Navaracs message, but he is spot on correct with his words. I have been around sales of some type or other for about 30 years. I have spent alot of money in years past on lead generation companies. They will suck the money out of you and provide you with very littel or no results at all. I would not give a penny to ANY of these companies. There guarnatees are as worthless as there word.
So, while Navarac is a crusty old grouch...he speaks the truth 100% here.

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#6281 - 06/05/06 02:45 PM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
MA/RI Realtor Offline
Member

Registered: 04/29/06
Posts: 32
Loc: MA &RI
Hi- I used REPromoter for about 9 months. at the time it cost $300.( may be more by now) month, the guarantee do the math x 13 months & you had to "attend" bi- weekly phone conversations w/ other unhappy uses giving info & tips - Again leads were terrible one I received was a Duncin Donuts also Everything told verbally to me was not what I received if you go w/ them get everything in writing. Again I do not recommend them.

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#6282 - 06/17/06 02:54 PM Re: RealEstatePromoter.com
alamorealtor Offline
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Registered: 05/24/06
Posts: 78
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Another rip off is a company called agentconnect. Assured me that the leads were well checked out. All were looking in future (6-12 months), some had poor credit looking to buy a $250-300,000 house. I should have known! Guess what? Don't fall for them! I get this AFTER I sign up:
I would like to go over the credit policy in case you had any questions.
Keep this in your AgentConnect folder so that you can keep it handy. Please
keep me up to date with how everything is going.
Our credit policy is in place in case you receive the following: Quote
1. Wrong Number
2. Fax Number
3. Number not in working order
4. Pay phone
5. A minor submitted the inquiry
6. The number is for another Real Estate Agent (we do have agents test our
system)
If you should receive a lead that falls within any of the above categories,
please contact me within 10 days of receiving the lead in order that I may
apply a credit. I will not be able to apply a credit for any requests
outside of the ten day policy.
Please keep in mind that we do not issue credits for the following:
1. Non-responsive leads
2. Price Range
3. Timeframe of transaction
4. Foreclosure buyers
5. Level of interest
6. Wrong e-mail

Have a great day! UnQuote

This disclaimer just about eliminates any hope of ever recovering your investment.
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