How can I check various search phrase results like you have above? I'm a total novice and have been tinkering around with trying to improve the page rank and SEO on my wife's site. I understand it will never be able to compete with sites professionally optimized but I enjoy learning a bit about it.

Thanks for your help.

Don Hill

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Don Hill
Jack-of-all-trades
http://www.jenhillhomes.com

You know I DO have a lil secret and I don't tell anyone but you RE agents are kinda growing on me so I will spill the beans. www.webceo.com has a great product. I got the PRO version, but they have a free version that will set you up for life, and shouldn't be free at all. I do not know if the Keyword analyzer is in the free version but it probably is. Go download the free version and then you too can sound smart like me......even though I am just a mortgage guy. Let me know how ya like it.

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Hi Will,

I not sure how secret it is but the free version is sorta ok for the price

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Rich
Real Estate Websites
Search Engine Optimization

you use the free version and you really don't need a SEO guy.........in my humblist of opinions.

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Alright Will...
Now you forced me to reply in detail

How in the world is a stats program going to get you to the top of the serps

It may give someone some useful information if they know what to do with it but there's alot more to getting to the top of the serps than anything you can do with the onpage optimization alone. Please share with us youir successes for specific highly competitive search terms and search engines that you attribute to WEBceo and how it got you to those positions. I checked most of your targeted keywords in google and yahoo and didn't see your site anywhere?
Don;t take anything I say here personally Will, I know your intentions are completely above board but when someone makes a blanket statement about a topic I know a little something about, I have a tendancy to look for validation

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Rich
Real Estate Websites
Search Engine Optimization

It is odd that you mentioned THOSE particular search engines. YOU yourself do very well on MSN, All the web, Alta Vista, Hot Bot, Info Space, and Lycos......but when is comes to Yahoo and Google you aren't in the first 100 listings. Either you have a seperate web domain that you optimized specifically and seperatley for goodle and yahoo......or ya haven;t figured it out yourself. I am not the full time SEO guy.....but this product is free, and for about 150 bucks a month or more a person would be charged for what this thing does for free. It is not a submitter..it HAS one, but it also looks and analyzes pages and points out words and phrases that aren't helping your site. I honestly think you haven;t tried this product yet or you wouldn;t have made the comments that you make. I have a million and one things I would love to do with my site but I am working my normal business so much that I don;t get a chance. For those Realtors that are looking to do some SEO themselves on their site....you can't tell me that this product can't give them much more then what a bunch of SEO companies do themselves. It is fun, easy, and I apologize if I jumped onto your turf. I myself haven't scratched the surface of what this thing can do.....but over time I think I will do fine. I track my stats and sometimes it confuses me. I will be number one for a city in Arizona and the word real estate, and be first when someone types in a construction term. I have to redo most of the site and get it optimized, but haven't had the chance. I will say this......I wouldn't rub it into a guys face that HIS site isn't on page one for all of his keywords and dismiss what he says.......KNOWING HOW to do something and DOING IT are two different things......and I have not had the time to do it. Good Luck with Google and Yahoo though!

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Hi Will,
Sorry you interpreted my comments as an attack I've been a little stressed lately. Those little emoticons convey the spirit of the post I intended

Now back to business To correct one point you made, our company site is #2 out of 3.6 million for real estate websites in the inktomi engines and doing very well in google for other keyword phrases we are targeting. I'd be happy to give you hundreds of examples of client sites holding multiple first page positions if you like We tend to use our our site as well as some other company sites we have to test different optimizattion startegies long before we implement them on any of our client sites.
The members here are some of the most net savvy you'll find anywhere which is why you didn't get a response to your request for link exchanges with your site. When you made the statement in the link exchange forum that your site isn't designed to be pretty but rather for search engines, I took a quick peek. Take a look at this page www.honestmortgage.net/PA.htm and tell me if that is what you mean by optimized for search engines. Once again, please regard this post for what it is..honest open debate and not a personal attack. One of the things that sets this forum apart from most is the fact that the moderators in all sections try to see that the information is kept as forthright and reliable as possible.........I just re-read my responses to this post and I must say that the tone was a bit more poiniant than usual and for this I apologize I have a close friend and father of 3 hanging on by a thread in the hospital at the moment and extend my apology to everyone on the board o)

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Rich
Real Estate Websites
Search Engine Optimization

This is a lively discussion and absolutley not anything I would consider as hostile. I have not made it to pennsylvania yet, as I am using the earlier states as my test modules. Some of the pages that i HAVE optimised are:
http://www.honestmortgage.net/AZ.htm
http://www.honestmortgage.net/california_realtors.htm
http://www.honestmortgage.net/adjustable_minneapolis_mortgage_rates.htm
http://www.honestmortgage.net/Arizona_Realtors.htm

These have some variations to them and there are some other pages I have as well. The PA page is an old thing I did last year that actually gets several hits when people are searching for a city and a keyword that i have.

You do have inktomi down for sure, but, and I did this to fart around a little, I did not see your site in the top 400 of any of the 55 search engines for the word search engine optimization...........SEO is a hard niche to crack on the search engines but I would imagine for the SEO this is the phrase that you would want to show off your talents against your competition. In all seriousness, good luck with your fiend and I don;t take ANYTHING anyone says in a bad way and I respect/appreciate your knowledge on here.

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