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#61268 - 12/23/04 10:28 AM
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#61269 - 12/23/04 01:14 PM
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My site isn't a traditional real estate site, but i think it works well: www.leadingrealestate.com Can't say that I've seen to many agent sites that I like...
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#61270 - 12/23/04 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by raustin: My site isn't a traditional real estate site, but i think it works well:
www.leadingrealestate.com If by "isnt traditional" you mean it doesnt totaly suck from a visual standpoint, then you are right. Nice job on that site, you have some good design ideas. However, you should look into making the jump to a tableless CSS format for easier reformatting and better semantics. Also, start nixing the strong attribute tags and other depreciated tags. If you need any help, you can go to http://www.codingforums.com for a huge resource of net knowledge. Originally posted by raustin: Can't say that I've seen to many agent sites that I like... Yeah, agent sites are notorious for being horible. If I didnt do sites for a specific company as part of my job, I would almost start doing agents sites for free just to do the world wide web a favor. 
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#61271 - 12/23/04 07:19 PM
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While it's true that most realtors sites are horrible, I would not listen to this guys advice. Tableless CSS? That is the LAST thing a realtor should be worried about at this point.
Realtors need sound Internet business advice, not complicate tehnical babble.
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#61272 - 12/23/04 07:24 PM
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On that note techmonkey- Thank goodness for a man named Brain Rogers and his power marketing center!! (coming soon too computers near you  ).......
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#61273 - 12/24/04 12:09 AM
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#61274 - 12/24/04 08:05 AM
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#61275 - 12/24/04 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by techmonkey: Realtors need sound Internet business advice, not complicate tehnical babble. Lol, you gotta be joking me. Just because you don't know what it is, doesn't mean that it is "complicated technical babble". It is a very simple add-on language that is incredibly easy to learn (I got the jist of it down in about 2 days of after work research). It is incredibly helpful and will make your site more cross browser compatible (or is "cross browser" also complicated technical babble?). It keeps all your info organized and easy to alter, and doesnt take too long to put into a site. If you look at it and decide you dont need it, then thats fine too! Heres a great site to learn about web-coding everything: http://www.w3schools.com/ Heres some examples of what you can do with CSS and a little creativity: http://www.csszengarden - only 1 html file, and several CSS "stlysheets" from different authors that change the looks of the site. http://www.cssbeauty.com Ignorance is no excuse for dismissal. How can you not recommend it if you dont even know what it is? Anyway, if your going at it from that angle, why have agents do thier own sites at all? Why should they worry about "complicated technical babble" and just spend a little money for a pro to worry about it for them? Why be a good real estate agent who makes a crappy website, when you could be a great real estate agent who is too busy to worry about such things? Or whynot be a good real estate agent who makes a killer website and actually (dare I say?) impresses people with their sites and then becomes a great agent and a great web developer? -P.S.: I'll add the links you guys supplied...they look good!
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#61276 - 12/27/04 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by MCA: List any and all real estate sites that you think are excellent and are prime examples of what should be done for a real estate web site. Include great sites for design, individuality, usability, etc. I know both the agents that own these two sites and they both do what a real estate website is supposed to do; bring in business to the owner. http://www.come2az.com/ http://www.dallashomes.com/ Another good source of outstanding real estate sites is http://www.ired.com/
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#61277 - 12/27/04 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by jimlee: I know both the agents that own these two sites and they both do what a real estate website is supposed to do; bring in business to the owner. I nominate that post for Understatement of the Year, specifically regarding Judy McCutchin's site. My understanding is that website is so strong that there's a guy Judy hired who does nothing but respond to the leads it brings in on an hourly basis and man the chat function. No shortage of strong Realtors in this town!
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#61278 - 12/30/04 08:14 PM
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I've heard great reviews of this website: http://www.cptaction.com
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#61279 - 01/11/05 11:47 PM
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Not to shoot anything posted in this thread down... But I'll related a comment back to MCA's original post.
Before that... Maybe we can all give some input as to what criteria is used to define a good web site, a good real estate web site, an outstanding web site? Saying the number of leads generated as the sole reason is not a good one and has too many variables attached to it... Right Rich?
Where do people get these "great reviews" of their sites? From the people that they close business for? Are these rave reviews balanced against the number of negative reviews? Or even better, potential clients who hit the back button because they don't like the site??? How about "rave reviews vs. number of hits"???
I've viewed many of these sites from the viewpoint of Usability and design. Coming from a background consisting of 15 years of client/server & web development with a major emphasis on "real" usability as defined "Human Computer Interaction"...
Many of these sites are very original.
Many have some great design ideas, but they may not apply to a real estate site. Maybe more to a "flashy" marketing service, advertising company or "fad based" product.
TechMonkey - Totally agree. Real Estate Agents shouldn't have to worry about tersm such as "CSS". Nor should they be worried about W3C compliance. If they are that inclined, there is a whole other market called web development. Too bad the "presence providers" don't understand much more than the basics themselves. Some great coding on the web servers, but the layouts used are horrible.
Montanaland - Brian is great for marketing... I agree. Still wondering about Web-based marketing as I question a lot about the efficacy of his site. He even asked....
MCA - I would love to see a site developed by one agent is is also a great web developer... Sorry, too much to know on the tech side to even deserve the label of web developer. Frontpage or web-based html generators do not make a web developer. Seriously, I would like to see one great agent who is a great web developer. Backed by facts not hearsay.
Jimlee- on the 2 sites you posted. May generate business, but how much business d othey lose. you never hear about the business that the sites lose because the ISPs won't tell us because it says that they are doing a poor job. Some good "drag-n-drop" javascript. NO way did they write that code. That was written by an experienced C++ or VB coder... And usability? We won't go there as it doesn't exist on those sites. Design: not impressive. Flashy but not what I would call designed for the market...
As for the number of leads they generate, that is market related as well. I can point out a dozen agents who dominate their market for a number of reasons and could do so with a frontpage web site... Their marketing and advertising budgets can be outrageous though...
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#61280 - 01/12/05 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by BGlines: Jimlee- on the 2 sites you posted. May generate business, but how much business d othey lose. you never hear about the business that the sites lose because the ISPs won't tell us because it says that they are doing a poor job. Some good "drag-n-drop" javascript. NO way did they write that code. That was written by an experienced C++ or VB coder... And usability? We won't go there as it doesn't exist on those sites. Design: not impressive. Flashy but not what I would call designed for the market...
Dude, there is no "May generate business" for the 2 sites I posted. Those two ladies have the two finest and most productive real estate websites currently online by an individual agent. I didn't wrote the code for mine either but I designed it to bring me business. www.DallasHomes.com, owned by RE/MAX agent Judy McCutchin 08/19/02 - Judy McCutchin was honored with an invitation to speak at Real Estate Connect in San Francisco. 05/25/02 - Judy McCutchin is featured speaker at national real estate on-line convention and exposition Judy was just featured in Kiplingers magazine, read all about it online HERE 02/17/02 - Judy McCutchin of dallashomes.com provides Private Websuites for Dallas-area buyers and sellers 01/27/02 - RE/MAX Judy McCutchin sets pace for real estate industry with innovative high-tech advantages for buyers and sellers And Alice Held's marvelous website www.Come2AZ.com http://www.come2az.com/acknowledgements/awards.htm Alice is an Allen Hainge "Cyberstar" a group of top producing real estate agents nationwide. Membership requires a minimum commission income of $100,000 per year. (Alice makes considerably more than that) Alice's website is also one of 2 websites used by NAR's e-PRO course as a model for what a good, income producing real estate website should look like. The point I'm leading up to with all this is that these two ladies and their websites have a multi-year, solid track record for producing business for them and in my opinion they are both top notch. If you have any example of sites you've designed or own that might be better and do more of what a successful real estate website is supposed to do for the Realtor then let's see them. Otherwise I suggest you might not be so quick to deliver your opinion about something you apparently don't have a clue about; a successful real estate website.
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#61281 - 01/12/05 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by jimlee: [QUOTE] Otherwise I suggest you might not be so quick to deliver your opinion about something you apparently don't have a clue about; a successful real estate website. People do that every day. Mostly in politics, but it can be especially dominant in our industry as well. Also, don't use "dude" when trying to prove a point to a group of professionals. Use it when explaining why you thought it was a good idea to hit your buddy in the face with an empty beer bottle. BGlines- Don't waste an entire post arguing over technicalities of semantics used in this post. If you really want to do things like that, please visit http://www.aclu.org and become a member if you're not already... it seems like a good fit for a person like yourself. As far as the grading criteria go, they were explicitly stated in the first paragraph in the first post. Mostly looking for web sites that simply look great. I am tired of the 2-color 1-pic limited info sites developed by people in the real estate industy (mostly in the home-ownership division) that plague the net today. So, pretty much anything that would have a great look as well as a good amount of flexibility and usability.
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#61282 - 01/12/05 02:24 PM
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I couldn't give a flip if my websites exhibit great "design, individuality, usability" or anything that can be described in an acronym, unless that acronym happens to be GCI (gross commission income).
Much like the game of poker, this business is not scored in terms of style or technical merit - the winner is decided by counting the money. I don't want to win any website design awards, I want lots of clients.
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