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#4989 - 06/01/06 05:19 PM Making Flyers for Open House
buyingallhouses Offline
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For those of you who distribute flyers to neighbors inviting them to your Open Houses - or anyone who has ideas - how do your flyers look and what is the content?

I was thinking something like:

Dear Neighbor,

You're Invited to Attend an Open House at:

Time, Date, Location


or...?


Should I use the back side of the flyer?

Should I go 1/2 page instead of full page?


I'm using black print on (blue/teal/green) papers and I'll have them copied/cut at Kinko's.


Thanks

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#4990 - 06/01/06 06:17 PM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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I usually go to OfficeMax and buy the printable postcard paper (they have to be postcard paper size or else they all will be returned to you)and print a pic of your listing with a catchy header such as "Want to peek into your neighbors home this Thursday?" and in the back side of the postcard write the invitation along with my contact info,what I will be serving, home characteristics. Oh and don't forget your pic. These work great for me. P>S> I also invite lenders as well since they sometimes have buyers as well, after the open house ask them to post the postcard at there waiting room, I have gotten buyers like this. Good Luck
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#4991 - 06/01/06 08:12 PM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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I use Microsoft Publishers tri-fold brochures template and design something that looks nice and gives all the info about the property except the price. I print in everything in color. I use a paper cutter that my office has to slice them up and staple them to door hangers. I knock and if the people answer then they get the flier and door hangar, if they don't answer then I hang it. Easy enough formula I guess. Can't say I have gotten a great response from it though.
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#4992 - 06/01/06 08:29 PM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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Is it okay to insert flyers inside mailboxes or is postage required? Does anyone know the "rules" of distributin flyers?
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#4993 - 06/02/06 02:06 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
navarac Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by amom:
Is it okay to insert flyers inside mailboxes or is postage required? Does anyone know the "rules" of distributin flyers?
Absolutely illegal. Can't touch the mailbox.

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#4994 - 06/02/06 02:20 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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Amon,
The USPS will report you. It is against the law to insert letters, flyers etc inside a Mailbox. it is not against the law to place a flyer outside the mailbox though!

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#4995 - 06/02/06 06:07 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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Loc: Toronto
Quote:
Originally posted by realestatefla1:
Amon,
The USPS will report you. It is against the law to insert letters, flyers etc inside a Mailbox. it is not against the law to place a flyer outside the mailbox though!
You've got to be kidding! It's ILLEGAL to put a flyer in a mailbox? What is the USPS? The American version of the Gestapo. Who owns your maiboxes? You or the post office? What's the rationale?

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#4996 - 06/02/06 06:10 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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USPS= United States Postal Service.

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#4997 - 06/02/06 06:11 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
Perry Offline
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Registered: 03/08/06
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Loc: Toronto
Quote:
Originally posted by realestatefla1:
USPS= United States Postal Service.
I am aware of what USPS stands for but thanks anyway.

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#4998 - 06/02/06 06:40 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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The homeowner owns the mailbox...it's not public property. Why would a salesperson have the right to open it?

It makes sense to me....I certainly wouldn't want someone potentially rummaging around in my mail after it was delivered. Some people get checks through the mail that could be stolen. Most people around here also have newspaper "tubes" where we can insert flyers. Doesn't seem to be a big issue not to use the mailbox.

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#4999 - 06/02/06 07:02 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
Perry Offline
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Loc: Toronto
Quote:
Originally posted by Concepts05:
The homeowner owns the mailbox...it's not public property. Why would a salesperson have the right to open it?

It makes sense to me....I certainly wouldn't want someone potentially rummaging around in my mail after it was delivered. Some people get checks through the mail that could be stolen. Most people around here also have newspaper "tubes" where we can insert flyers. Doesn't seem to be a big issue not to use the mailbox.
I live in Canada so excuse me if I find it incredible that a real estate agent can't put a flyer in a mailbox and it's a Federal crime if he/she does so.

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#5000 - 06/02/06 07:12 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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Registered: 09/26/04
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Thanks everyone for your responses.

Regarding the USPS, that's just how it is. If you want something to arrive in someone's mailbox in this country - you've got to pay postage.

- - - - -


Diane,

I'm going to follow your example for a flyer.

"Want to peek into your neighbors home this Sunday?

Curious, though - you mention that you write down what you'll be serving. So you lure them with FREE FOOD.

What do you typically 'serve' at your open houses and how much does is cost you?

Thanks,
BuyingAllHouses

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#5001 - 06/02/06 10:12 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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Had to finish the flyers (going to pass out now)...Since I don't know what I'll be serving, I just put:

Neighbor's Only Reception 1-2pm
(Refreshments provided)

Public Open House - 2-4pm.

This way - I only have to have enough food for the 1st hour.

Still need ideas on what to serve?

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#5002 - 06/03/06 08:05 PM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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Registered: 05/24/06
Posts: 403
Loc: White Plains, NY
I do a lot of open houses. Less is more. Obviously, you don't want anything too messy. Simple finger food is best. Sometimes I use a deli to prepare simple wraps. I've also made fruit skewers that people can handle without things getting messy. I also bring individual packets of hand wipes this helps with families that have small children. Also, nothing that spoils easily. You don't want to have to worry about how fresh or safe the food is on a hot day. During the summer I have plenty of cold bottled water and sodas that people can take with them.

Good luck.

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#5003 - 06/03/06 10:24 PM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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Excellent question to bring up, Amom...very pertinent to this thread. If the post office did not have that rule of "don't touch the mailbox", there would be so much junk in there from all kinds of people that the real mail would get lost. Think about all the door stuff that people receive, including ours...and imagine it in your mailbox if there was no rule. Plus, people would leave anything they wanted to give the homeowner in the mailbox. For instance, the Avon lady would leave her book, neighbors would drop off borrowed items, kids would drop off their homework for a sick pal...I have wanted to leave tons of stuff in the mailbox over the years.

Everybody knows that the United States Postal Service is supposed to protect our mail. They cannot do that if everyone uses it. A stranger would be able to open your mail box and remove something, and nobody would pay any attention. The way it is now, it would be very noticable for anyone other than the homeowner or the postman to remove mail. In order to get mail, we must furnish a mail box for the exclusive use of the postal service, mainly the carrier. He is questioned about what goes in there, and does not need anyone else in the mailbox except the homeowner. Without the rule, we could not call the post office and say, "why haven't I been getting my mail?" Just some feedback on the subject... Thanks.

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#5004 - 06/04/06 02:12 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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#5005 - 06/04/06 11:38 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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I have another point regarding the exclusive use of mailbox by carrier only. Vandalism of mailboxes is bad, but imagine what it would be if it were not a federal crime.

To recap, I do know that every pressure washer, every babysitter, every yard mower, every newly opened $1.00 store, etc., would hire kids to distribute these flyers (or do it themselves) in our mailboxes to avoid paying postage. People would love an excuse to hire mailbox stuffers instead of paying postage. They are thinking--Why not pay a teenager $6.00 an hour to put 60 flyers in the mailboxes rather than spend...what's the fyler postage these days? Anyway, it would be cheaper and our mail would not be safe on our own property. Not to mention, no privacy because the people in our own neighborhoods would read our mail if they were handing out flyers. My biggest fear--while they were in there, they just might grab my check for my services. With access to the mailbox by just anyone, how can a neighbor say, "I saw him with his hand in your mailbox"? Now, people may be temped but most will not touch the mailbox. There is a reason for these laws, folks.

Most use email, fax, UPS, and other services for their communication needs these days, when possible. But the USPS still protects our mail while it is on our property, till we can get home and get it safely into our homes. This is very important for those who still get those pesky credit card offers, bank statements, pay checks, insurance settlements, and other very confidential information through the postal service. I shudder to think what would happen if anyone were allowed to open someone's mailbox. One Realtor handling out flyers is no big deal...but the postal service is not thinking of one Realtor, they are thinking about the identity theft expert who would take advantage by painting "yard service" on his van and driving around raiding mailboxes under the pretense of handing out flyers. Just my opinion.

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#5006 - 06/04/06 04:26 PM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
Jim Lee Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by amom:
Is it okay to insert flyers inside mailboxes or is postage required? Does anyone know the "rules" of distributin flyers?
Yes, don't put them any inside, outside, hanging from, taped to, or anything else involving the actual mailbox.

'Your' mailbox when installed in front of your house is designated as an official repository for U.S. Mail and your use must comply with U.S. Statutes and U.S. Post Office regulations.

"3.1 Basic Information for Customer Mail Receptacles

3.1.1 Authorized Depository

Except as excluded by 3.1.2, every letterbox or other receptacle intended or used for the receipt or delivery of mail on any city delivery route, rural delivery route, highway contract route, or other mail route is designated an authorized depository for mail within the meaning of 18 USC 1702, 1705, 1708, and 1725.

3.1.3 Use for Mail

Except under 3.2.11, Newspaper Receptacle, the receptacles described in 3.1.1 may be used only for matter bearing postage. Other than as permitted by 3.2.10, Delivery of Unstamped Newspapers, or 3.2.11, no part of a mail receptacle may be used to deliver any matter not bearing postage, including items or matter placed upon, supported by, attached to, hung from, or inserted into a mail receptacle. Any mailable matter not bearing postage and found as described above is subject to the same postage as would be paid if it were carried by mail."
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#5007 - 06/04/06 05:19 PM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
Darlene Bitner Offline
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Thanks, Jim, for doing the leg work. We all need to be clear on this, because it is very tempting, especially when first starting out. Postage makes mailouts too expensive for most Realtors. On the other hand, none of us want the "Feds" after us ( laugh ), so it's best to know the rules for sure.

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#5008 - 06/05/06 08:51 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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Registered: 03/08/06
Posts: 117
Loc: Toronto
The US Govt can't stop illegals from swamping your country but the USPS can not only scare the hell out of you so you won't put a flyer in a mailbox but it can have you arrested. I think you should put the USPS in charge of your borders and that would solve your illegals problem.
You REALLY give a govt. service that kind of power? Scarey.

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#5009 - 06/05/06 09:22 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
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Perry - I think Darlene B made it pretty clear as to why the law exists and why it's a good one. I highly doubt anyone will get thrown into a jailcell for putting flyer in a mailbox - but it's a good deterrent.

You jumped into the thread very quickly to criticize the USPS and now you are doing the same to the border patrol situation.

Maybe you didn't mean it to come off as such, but it seems there is some US bashing going on here.

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#5010 - 06/05/06 10:47 AM Re: Making Flyers for Open House
macd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/06
Posts: 107
There are stiff fines for misusing a mailbox. It also looks lazy, cheap, and unprofessional. If an agent is too lazy to walk up to my door, too cheap to buy a stamp, and lacks the ethics to follow federal law... there is no way I would hire this "professional" to list my house.

Also: Skip the food. You want to impress upon the visitors to the house that you are a local real estate expert, not a caterer. Preview every house in the area and know them cold. Make the attendees believe that they would be better off with you as their agent.

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