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#425684 - 07/04/13 12:13 PM 11 days from closing - carpenter ants discovered
eagleusa Offline
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Registered: 07/04/13
Posts: 1
Loc: Tulsa, OK
We are set to close on our dream home in 11 days. Everything had been going well up until we determined that the home has carpenter ants. This discovery was made outside of the ten day inspection period.

We first observed the ants while using a flashlight to examine the space between the carpet and baseboard. The area contained well over 50 dead ants. This lead us up the window area directly above dead ants. The base of the window frame had several black spots on it; the middle part of the frame had a few tiny holes. I pushed into one of those holes and had that area collapse. This in turn unleashed a swarm of ants. Within that void there was a clean channel that appeared to be well formed.

Upon this discovery my realtor immediately contacted the owner of the pest inspection company. His solution is to spray for free until they are gone.

I had different pest inspector out to examine the issue who concluded that the infestation had been there for awhile and that it needs to be treated ASAP. When asked about the extent of the damage she said that unless they got into the walls, they couldn't say. One good thing is that the ants were only observed in that one room and area.

Monday morning I've got a call scheduled with owner of the original pest control company. That same day the supplemental work is set to start. My plan right now is to put the supplemental on hold until we can asses the extent of the damage. If its just that window area, I will fix it and go forward. If its the whole house, other things will happen.

I understand that the original pest inspector is liable for all this. I don't want to get into a legal thing - I would rather just walk.

My question: What type of inspector can asses this situation without ripping the walls down? I've read about how endoscopic cameras can be used to evaluate this- I just don't know where to find them.

Thank you for any and all advice.

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#425685 - 07/04/13 01:11 PM Re: 11 days from closing - carpenter ants discovered [Re: eagleusa]
Inspectorjeff Offline
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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 80
Loc: Santa Clarita, CA
Even with cameras, the extent of the infestation cannot be fully determined. Generally, the most effective course is (unfortunately) destructive testing.

You might try a company that uses "ultrasound" or some other type of acoustic testing if there is anyone in your area, although this type of testing can be quite expensive.
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#426914 - 08/08/13 06:05 PM Re: 11 days from closing - carpenter ants discovered [Re: eagleusa]
spaul8809 Offline
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Registered: 07/17/13
Posts: 10
Loc: Canada
Home inspector use thermal imaging technique for identifying facts about our home. Thermal imaging is an advance technique through which we can perform investigation and identify defects of our home. It basically works on rays which are emitted by an object. This shows a perfect picture of the object with pin point defects.

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#426924 - 08/09/13 02:47 AM Re: 11 days from closing - carpenter ants discovered [Re: eagleusa]
Vermont Offline
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Registered: 04/12/08
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Loc: Vermont's North-East Kingdom
So you think a colony of Carpenter Ants would emit enough infrared heat to be detected by your thermal imaging device ?

I didn't even know whether Ants were Cold Blooded or Warm Blooded !
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#426934 - 08/09/13 04:30 AM Re: 11 days from closing - carpenter ants discovered [Re: eagleusa]
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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 80
Loc: Santa Clarita, CA
Insects do not produce heat, i.e., they are "cold-blooded." Therefore, they will not likely produce a definable signature on the palate of the IR camera.

If they are within the wall cavity, there will be no signature at all from the insects themselves. IR can aid in detecting "voids" or "caverns" within the walls, but destructive testing will still likely be necessary to verify the source of the anomaly.
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If your inspector is not using thermal imaging, you're not getting the whole picture. �

Jeff Pope
JPI Home Inspection Service
Santa Clarita CA
(661) 212-0738
http://www.MyInspector.net

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#441958 - 01/01/15 07:15 AM Re: 11 days from closing - carpenter ants discovered [Re: Inspectorjeff]
Pete Campbell
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Carpenter ants nest in moisture damaged wood. Moisture should show up on an infrared scan. But such damage can often be visually observed without expensive and fancy 'tools'.

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#446918 - 07/31/15 11:35 AM Re: 11 days from closing - carpenter ants discovered [Re: eagleusa]
BldgInsp Offline
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Registered: 07/31/15
Posts: 1
Loc: Florida
In Florida, and most states, carpenter ants are not a disclosure on the WDO inspection. Carpenter ants do not eat wood but rather use old termite/beetle galleries for storage/nesting.

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#457346 - 04/13/17 08:08 AM Re: 11 days from closing - carpenter ants discovered [Re: eagleusa]
ajwclw@gmail.com Offline
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Registered: 04/13/17
Posts: 2
Loc: MI
What is the best moisture detecting tool for inspection?

AJ Wilson
Certified home Inspection
Wilson Inspected


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