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#40544 - 05/08/06 04:44 AM farvv's politically correct computer
Countrygirl Offline
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Registered: 12/14/05
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Loc: Missouri
Political correctness is gone to far when now the computer systems are flagging us. I input one for farvv and kept getting a message to check my comments. Checked them and rechecked them could not figure out why it was flagging me. All the blanks were filled in etc. Called them and they told me that now the computer scans for words that will be flag by the customer. The rep told me they are working on it because right now it basically is flagging everything. I told her all my comments were pc. She told me to ignore it and send it. Things are starting to get alittle big brothery for me when computers start telling me what words I can and can not use. I don't mind a human flagging me but a computer?

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#40545 - 05/08/06 06:28 AM Re: farvv's politically correct computer
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Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 145
Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota
This is happening on several of the sites. I just wish that they would highlight the word(s) so we would know what the they/the computer don't like. Was on one discussion group that did highlight words and found that perfectly innocent words taken out of context was the norm.

The computer doesn't know any better. Flags the word, not the meaning.

When this happens on one of the BPOs and I can't find an obvious word I just make a note that I went through all the comments and couldn't find anything offensive. All have passed just fine.

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#40546 - 05/08/06 07:54 AM Re: farvv's politically correct computer
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Registered: 06/15/04
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Loc: Watsonville, CA, USA
Wow... what will they think of next. I think the techno-geeks that write these pages have a user group "Cyber Dungeon Masters Anonymous"

Here's one little tip that even got passed the humans, till the next word list comes out anyway. "Desireable neighborhood" got me flagged so I changed it to "Highly sought out neighborhood" no problem. I've used that phrase several times, so far so good.

FARVV is a hoot... their PCR still has a drop down for "Pride of Ownership" You can choose excellent or poor, but you can't mention it in your remarks.

I'm sure this irritates them as much as us.

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#40547 - 05/08/06 04:50 PM Re: farvv's politically correct computer
Darlene Bitner Offline
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Registered: 03/10/05
Posts: 1187
Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
Countrygirl, thanks for posting this. Now I see what has been going on lately. I thought they were telling me I said too much. I always check for PC but apparently I need to brush up, because I have seen this on my last three reports.

I'll re-read those reports and see what I said that I should not have said. I'm always commenting about the popularity of a neighborhood when it's a neighborhood where the houses go quickly. Sometimes the comps can't be in subject's neighborhood, so the DOM don't reflect the popularity of the subject's neighborhood.

Gary, I haven't seen a Pride of Ownership drop-down. Since they have so many clients, I'm guessing that you do a form I have not done. I have two forms I usually get, so maybe we get our forms based on how high our client's clients rates us. Does that make sense?

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#40548 - 05/08/06 05:38 PM Re: farvv's politically correct computer
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Loc: Watsonville, CA, USA
I dunno Darlene, I don't think I'm rated particularly high with them. I saw it on a PCR not a BPO... no biggy, just that the double standard is a little strange. The whole thing is a little strange, thinking you can value a home without mentioning whether or not the neighborhood is a dump or that the crackheads (of whatever color) stole your hubcaps while you were taking the pictures.

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#40549 - 05/08/06 05:45 PM Re: farvv's politically correct computer
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Registered: 07/10/03
Posts: 228
Loc: Illinois
I did one for a company whose reports are scanned by computer and it wouldn't take the word church. But the name of the street was Church. I had to falsify the name of the street to submit the work.

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#40550 - 05/08/06 09:21 PM Re: farvv's politically correct computer
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Registered: 03/10/05
Posts: 1187
Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
Yep, I agree. When we use the word "overbuilt", that is tied directly to the neighborhood, right? Some forms want to know about overhead power lines, city dumps, railroad tracks...that goes to the neighborhood. I don't know that I could do a BPO without considering the neighborhood. And the street view - that's about the neighborhood. So we have to have a few words.

I understand pride of ownership, I think, because poor or disabled people might be accused of not having pride of ownership, but pulling car motors under the carport...I have no problem calling that NO PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP.

I DO love those property inspections. I could do those all day long, even if all they do pay is $6.

Alice, your situation with the name "Church" had to add an hour onto your BPO. I can just visualize you trying everything to get it to take. Yikes.

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#40551 - 05/09/06 12:01 AM Re: farvv's politically correct computer
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Registered: 10/11/05
Posts: 162
Loc: Wisconsin
Country girl, I had this with the same company today checked my comments a few times (frustrating).It did not affect my "score". I usually enter statement like comments. Does it pick up on the grammar?

Gary, I used that phrase yesterday. I like that.

Darlene, I am "guessing" that the orders we get are from a few different clients. I have seen 2-3 different forms from some companies.
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#40552 - 05/09/06 01:39 AM Re: farvv's politically correct computer
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Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
I think most have our client's client name on there somewhere. It's almost always the same form every time for a particular client, right?. I just got an 82 because of 8 mile proximity and comments. Scanned comments and did not find anything. I had the word "smaller", and the word "older". Can't change those because I was describing the subdivision compared to the subject.

The reason I thought the comments did effect score is because of one that I did that should have been a 100 because it was in great subdivision with great comps, and nothing else was in red. Still, I got less than 100 (don't remember how much) and comments was only thing they had indicated.

Just finished one. Guess what it had on it, Gary. The drop down POO box.

Haven't seen you lately, Treebird. I hope that is because you have been making money.

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#40553 - 06/01/06 09:12 PM Re: farvv's politically correct computer
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Registered: 05/31/06
Posts: 230
Loc: Pasco county, Florida
I have not been called on using "pride of ownership", but I have been flagged for using some rather odd words that are mearly descriptive. They have a blog section with a list of words they dont' want to see. Flood is one of them- even if "flood insurance not required" raises the desireability of the house in that area.

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#40554 - 06/01/06 09:13 PM Re: farvv's politically correct computer
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Registered: 05/31/06
Posts: 230
Loc: Pasco county, Florida

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#40555 - 06/02/06 07:14 AM Re: farvv's politically correct computer
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Registered: 06/15/04
Posts: 1187
Loc: Watsonville, CA, USA
An update... after a particularly frustrating and futile search for my "bad" word the FARVV rep told me to ignore the word scan. It's on steroids and cannot be placated. Make sure your writing isn't discriminatory by human standards and submit.

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#40556 - 06/02/06 04:50 PM Re: farvv's politically correct computer
Real Deal Offline
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Registered: 08/15/05
Posts: 295
Loc: Northville
Countrygirl said:

Political correctness is gone to far when now the computer systems are flagging us. I input one for farvv and kept getting a message to check my comments. Checked them and rechecked them could not figure out why it was flagging me. All the blanks were filled in etc. Called them and they told me that now the computer scans for words that will be flag by the customer. The rep told me they are working on it because right now it basically is flagging everything. I told her all my comments were pc. She told me to ignore it and send it. Things are starting to get alittle big brothery for me when computers start telling me what words I can and can not use. I don't mind a human flagging me but a computer?


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This topic was started based on FARVV flagging for supposed "use of certain words" but in reality the reason you got the message to check your comments was because you over typed a certain amount of given characters. FARVV only allows a certain amount of characters per comp explanation. After 250 or so you get a message to correct it but if you ignore it it counts against your score. It does not realize actual words used but number of characters.
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