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#400591 - 02/06/12 07:21 PM HAFA w/ Central Mortgage
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My client just got an email saying they qualified for a HAFA. But they will be required to pay $1356 in monthly payments for 3-4 month trial period. What is the incentive to pay $4100- $5400 just to get a $3000 HAFA check? Has anyone seen larger checks for HAFA?

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#400607 - 02/07/12 05:45 AM Re: HAFA w/ Central Mortgage [Re: Greg Masson]
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That sounds more like a trial loan modification than it does a short sale. Loan mods fall under the HAFA program as well.

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#400682 - 02/07/12 09:16 PM Re: HAFA w/ Central Mortgage [Re: HomeTeamGA]
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Originally Posted By: HomeTeamGA
That sounds more like a trial loan modification than it does a short sale. Loan mods fall under the HAFA program as well.


I know, but it said HAFA!

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#400686 - 02/08/12 01:55 AM Re: HAFA w/ Central Mortgage [Re: Greg Masson]
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H.A.F.A. is a government program that helps homeowners who are behind on their mortgages find affordable alternatives to a foreclosure. Sometimes the answer is a short sale, other times it is a deed in lieu. A homeowner must first attempt to qualify for a loan modification. If they cannot meet the qualification for the loan modification then they can proceed under the guidelines of the program to pursue a short sale or deed in lieu. Under the program the homeowner qualifies for the $3000.00 relocation assistance. There is no higher payout available under H.A.F.A. They don't get the payout if they are successful in modifying the loan.

If the homeowner meets the H.A.F.A. qualification guidelines the lender will process everything under the guidelines laid out by that program. It is a faster and more streamlined process than a conventional loan modification or short sale. Many homeowners cannot meet the H.A.F.A. qualifications. They may still qualify for the same foreclosure alternatives, but the process is much slower and there is no $3000.00 parachute at the end. Not all loans fall under H.A.F.A. either. The loan must be Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, or serviced by a lender who has signed onto the program (right now there are about 100 lenders).

Whenever I have a buyer interested in a property that is listed as a short sale I always ask if it is a H.A.F.A. approved short sale. That gives me an idea of how long it may take to get to closing. Under H.A.F.A. I've seen it done in less than 30 days, but usually in 45 to 60 days. If it's not H.A.F.A. approved it can take 6 months or more to get to closing.

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#400764 - 02/08/12 09:29 PM Re: HAFA w/ Central Mortgage [Re: HomeTeamGA]
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Originally Posted By: HomeTeamGA
H.A.F.A. is a government program that helps homeowners who are behind on their mortgages find affordable alternatives to a foreclosure. Sometimes the answer is a short sale, other times it is a deed in lieu. A homeowner must first attempt to qualify for a loan modification. If they cannot meet the qualification for the loan modification then they can proceed under the guidelines of the program to pursue a short sale or deed in lieu. Under the program the homeowner qualifies for the $3000.00 relocation assistance. There is no higher payout available under H.A.F.A. They don't get the payout if they are successful in modifying the loan.

If the homeowner meets the H.A.F.A. qualification guidelines the lender will process everything under the guidelines laid out by that program. It is a faster and more streamlined process than a conventional loan modification or short sale. Many homeowners cannot meet the H.A.F.A. qualifications. They may still qualify for the same foreclosure alternatives, but the process is much slower and there is no $3000.00 parachute at the end. Not all loans fall under H.A.F.A. either. The loan must be Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, or serviced by a lender who has signed onto the program (right now there are about 100 lenders).

Whenever I have a buyer interested in a property that is listed as a short sale I always ask if it is a H.A.F.A. approved short sale. That gives me an idea of how long it may take to get to closing. Under H.A.F.A. I've seen it done in less than 30 days, but usually in 45 to 60 days. If it's not H.A.F.A. approved it can take 6 months or more to get to closing.


I understand all that. My question, is if anyone has heard of monthly payments that exceed the HAFA payment?

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#400783 - 02/09/12 06:35 AM Re: HAFA w/ Central Mortgage [Re: Greg Masson]
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I don't understand what you think is going on here. They are not getting anything. At this point they are being told that they qualify for a loan modification under the H.A.F.A. program. They must make those monthly payments on time during the trial period before their loan modification becomes final and approved. They are not getting a dime here.

I think you are confusing a loan modification with a short sale or deed in lieu. Are you currently representing this individual in a short sale? If you have a signed 3rd party authorization you need to call the bank and find out what is going on here. You may think you are doing a short sale and Central Mortgage is proceeding with a loan modification instead. I have had times in the past when I was in the middle of the short sale process and found out that the client had an open loan modification going on at the same time. There seems to be a disconnect here between you, the client, and the mortgage company that you need to get to the bottom of.

To answer your question, no, there is no provision in H.A.F.A. to allow for a relocation incentive of more than $3000.00 or that it be paid out in monthly payments. It is a lump sum payment to the homeowner that is similar to "Cash for Keys". They are not going to get $3000.00 after they make those payments, they only get the $3000.00 if they do a short sale or a Deed in Lieu. There is no $3000.00 paid by H.A.F.A. when someone successfully completes a trial loan modification period.

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#400790 - 02/09/12 08:15 AM Re: HAFA w/ Central Mortgage [Re: Greg Masson]
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#400807 - 02/09/12 12:07 PM Re: HAFA w/ Central Mortgage [Re: Artiste]
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Interesting article, however those extra incentive payments being offered are not being paid through H.A.F.A., they are being offered by the mortgage company. The $3000.00 H.A.F.A. payment comes from the money allocated through the H.A.F.A. legislation.

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#400948 - 02/11/12 09:46 AM Re: HAFA w/ Central Mortgage [Re: HomeTeamGA]
minna Offline
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Greg - if in processing the client for HAFA the lender determines the client can afford some mortgage payment - they will request it as a condition of hafa. I have seen this before. It is not a loan mod.
And btw - HAFA is neither streamlined, simple or quick. HAFA has to be one of the worst short sale programs out there.

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#401004 - 02/11/12 07:25 PM Re: HAFA w/ Central Mortgage [Re: Greg Masson]
Greg Masson Offline
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I emailed Central Mortgage to ask if they were referring to a HAFA or a HAMP, this was the email reply...

" This is a Freddie Mac and Freddie Mac requires trail payments on all HAFA short sales as well as the HAMP Modifications."

Go figure...the payments are far more than the HAFA $3000 payments. Absolutely NO incentive to do the govt sponsored SS program.

I told this to a colleague, he says he just started doing Co-op SS, through BOA. BOA, establishes the marketing price up front, then will pay the homeowner $1000 if they close within 120 days. If not, they will reduce the payment in steps until it is sold, or perhaps goes to foreclosure.

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#401010 - 02/11/12 08:51 PM Re: HAFA w/ Central Mortgage [Re: Greg Masson]
HomeTeamGA Offline
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Registered: 07/14/11
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Loc: Georgia
Originally Posted By: Greg Masson
I emailed Central Mortgage to ask if they were referring to a HAFA or a HAMP, this was the email reply...

" This is a Freddie Mac and Freddie Mac requires trail payments on all HAFA short sales as well as the HAMP Modifications."

Go figure...the payments are far more than the HAFA $3000 payments. Absolutely NO incentive to do the govt sponsored SS program.

I told this to a colleague, he says he just started doing Co-op SS, through BOA. BOA, establishes the marketing price up front, then will pay the homeowner $1000 if they close within 120 days. If not, they will reduce the payment in steps until it is sold, or perhaps goes to foreclosure.


That BOA program is the one they go to if the seller doesn't qualify for H.A.F.A., I have 3 of them that will close this month and all 3 failed to qualify for H.A.F.A. but Bank of America is doing it through their program. All 3 sellers are getting the $1000.00 incentive.

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