Thank's for the answer, it makes a lot of sense.
I tried to imagine the answer before hand but your
answer blew me away, very clever strategy.
I'm back on my 9-12 prospect, 1-4 follow up/lead
servicing and good things are happening.
Your two evenings a week is very smart, I
suspect this will prevent many leads from falling
through the net and as you know not many people are
around early afternoon. I have learn't that humans
have a minor energy surge early evening, this would
be smart to capitalize on.


Enjoy your weekend.

Hey Nav I got this one in my e-mail account this morning and
I printed it out because there are some very good points in it
that apply to a 46 year old guy who doesn't have endless energy. Being new to marriage I find it stressful and this
affects my energy which is not good, I'm gonna follow this
guys advice. I have been getting these e-mails for some
time but threw this one in because it resonates with me
and it was in my personal e-mail account, I didn't steal it from somewhere else.





Here is your ACTION STEP...what are some of the things you need to say no to? How about starting with saying no to:



1. Going to bed too late

2. Not exercising enough and eating the wrong things

3. Working with unqualified prospects

4. Getting wrapped up in the drama in your office/others in your life

5. Forgetting your priorities... especially in the morning

6. Self-Sabotage and beating yourself up

7. Not planning to take time off


8. GETTING INTO DISPUTES WITH AGENTSONLINE MEMBERS

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Once again, Nanvarac, you are absolutely correct about everything. Except the part about it being false or exaggerated and the part about it being especially popular with agents who are prone to long stretches of failure.

Those e-mails go out to agents who pay $1,000 per month for coaching , seminars, etc. So I doubt there are many readers who suffer from stretches of failure as you call it.

There are lots of successes such as this if you search it out and it is not false and exaggerated. The beauty of this story is that they are very profitable and treat real estate as a business with an eye on profit an not simply on gross volume.

Because it is not fake, even you should humble yourself and admit it is quite impressive and inspiring even though you may never reach this level personally yourself, like the e-mail says, which i think is a greater risk as many people tend to cynical like yourself.

If there are agents spending $1,000 a month to read the stuff you posted under "good morning one-on-ones", well then... I'm speechless. And that doesn't happen too often.

If KIP11 is the guy I think he is then there is a hard core
Mike Ferry guy onboard. We both started in our mid twenties
and used all of Mike's stuff. He was way more hungry than
me and always grosses over 250 every year no matter what.
Keep in mind it took him at least 7 - 10 years to perfect Mikes
stuff that got him up to the 250 range, I believe he is in the one on one program but he is very guarded and secretive.
Actually just to busy to shoot the breeze.

Kip11, did you have a custom home built for yourself on a ravine?, if not I apologise. If it is you then you have a ton
of info to share on this thread with your 18 plus years of
prospecting experience.

While Kip11 and myself were in our mid twenties we lost a huge
number of listings to middle aged agents. I think at some point this drove Kip11 seriously mental, kinda crazed (deeply
affected) and he turned to Mike Ferry completely and became a disciple. He has paid a huge price for his success and I hope it is as good as he thought it would be.

Either way well done.

Who are Bob G. And Domenic D.?
20 years of religious telephone prospecting is very impressive. Definitely has me beat.

Someone should invite them to this thread or send me a P.M. I would like to learn from them. I'm sure we all could benefit!

Nanvarac. If you learn or re- affirm 1-2 points to improve your mindset, your business, your finances or your life from a coaching call Or an e-mail or a tape or a seminar or a book, then you are moving forward in life. Otherwise, most people's lives and business are stuck in neutral, going thru life in kind of a fog, a daze. Stuck in complacency. Maybe you are one of those fortunate ones that can get motivated, get ideas, increase your sales and effectiveness by 20% per year all by yourself! I am not.

It's funny, many agents I know ask me why I go to seminars, pay for coaching etc. They tell me that i know all there is to know. Funny, these are the same agents stuck at the same income, struggling, have a lack drive etc. Etc.
Mmmm....notice a pattern? They know everything and are going nowhere fast. I have a need to learn and my life keeps getting better.
All I can say is I thank god I don't think like them.


What if that production were true, ( I assure you it is ) could you not learn something from being exposed to people like that?

For example, I have not worked weekends this year. I am working 45 hour weeks and my production and effectiveness and time management has improved drastically all because I expose myself to this type of thinking with like minded people and I don't pretend I know it all. I am selfish! I am always seeking for information from people who do more than I do so I can improve my life.

We are all a product of our environment. If you want to have a better life, a life that is unimaginable by most, you must put the ego aside and associate and have exposure with people that that do more than you.

That is a small sample of what e-mails such as that can do.
Nanvarac, imagine if you had a slightly opened mind. Imagine the possibilities.

I PM'd you their details and spelled out how they work, if they
want to come onboard and describe their plan they can, I'm not
going to post it.

I did page a anonymous message to a friend of mine who door knocks from 10am to 4pm daily the details of this site but he hasn't shown up. I don't really like the guy and he never shares his learing with me, always calls me to find out what I'm up to. He hates all real estate managers and tells me if
you door knock at least 4 hours a day you can tell your manger
to take a hike. (almost all the agents don't like this guy, he
knows it and doesn't care at all, yes he is odd for sure) When
the agents have a open house for agents they often provide a
light lunch, the idea is you grab a sandwich or whatever and
stand and talk or walk through the house, this guy takes a seat
at the table and eats all he can and it really bothers the listing agent. They don't know that he has been knocking on
doors all morning and badly wants to sit down. Miscomunication
you could say for sure. This behavior has not helped the poor
[censored] at all.

I called a lady friend who door knocks, runs marathons, is stunning and does very, very well but she hasn't shown up.
I think she has tipped of KIP11. (she hates cold calling but
has been door knocking a farm for over a decade) She always goes to seminars, her philosophy is if she can learn one new thing at each event then she is better of. I wish I had had an affair with her when she was hot to trot, oh well live and learn.

Hey Perky

If it is possible for you to delete all my post on this
thread I would appreciate it a lot as they tend to irritate
more than they inform.(is their a auto delete that you can
use or can you hook me up to a system that I can access?)

Hunter.

From the rules you agreed to when you signed up - "You agree that at no time will you request to have any or all of your posts removed "en masse."

Okay, no way out may as well keep going.



Mike Ferry One on One Training, my take:


This is one of the rare times that I partially agree with Navarak. I think $1000 a month is a lot of money. My uncle flew into town to stay with us over Easter. He is a MD, Medical doctor (general practitioner) and has 40 odd years
of experience running his own clinic. The Canadian government
pays him $27 per patient he see's. He books 1 patient for
every 15 minutes. Half of his $27 goes to expenses. He has
no benefits and no pension. (nurses get $40 per hour and a pension as well as benefits)

So Tony is making $52 an hour clear to himself. Mike Ferry
want $250 per hour, this to me is extremely expensive. Plus the sales people that call me from his office get very rude when I decline to sign up, they say things like you are the
guy that everybody hates on Agentsonline and we are your only
hope of every having a friend in the real estate business. Keep
in mind Mike Ferry has been reported to the human rights commission because he is too cheap to buy his salesmen desk's
or chairs. These guys have to stand up all day long facing a
phone that is bolted to the wall, no window to look out off
either.

Now were Mike could be of help is to the guy that has a 911
Porche and he wants it to go faster. This is a very expensive
undertaking but I think Mike would be able to get you from
200mph to 250mph. (if you dont believe me then look into high
performance part for a Porche from Germany, you will have to
take out a mortgage on your house to afford them, I imported
a wife from Germany and 3 years later I'm still trying to
financially recover)


I don't know how much Bruce Keith charges but I get the impression that it is half of what Mike Ferry charges.
This is something I have given serious thought to and if
my wife ever gets a good job this is an experiment I would
entertain for sure. If the guy helps me sell 5 more homes
a year and charges $5000 then I'm ahead by a good chunk and
would have learnt a lot in the process. He also appears to
have both feet on the ground and isn't promissing me that
he will enable me to sell 100 homes a year. The thought of this
100 homes a year production gives me nighmares.

A couple years ago I got a bit worried, I thought If I keep doing chin ups and parralel bar dips I might turn into a monkey. So, I did a lot of research and came up with the squat.
I ordered the best book on the subject from Mark Rippetoe in America. It took me months and months to get to a point were I
could do them without hurting myself and still to this day I'm
not sure if doing them properly. In hindsight I should have paid a guy to show me how to do them and I would have saved a ton of time and avoided some painful injuries.


I have no idea how you guys line up your paragraphs so
neatly.

Hunter; the term a lot of money is relative. For me coaching is less that 3% of my gross and as my income grows that percentage shrinks. When I started, it was higher. There is a lot more to the coaching than a weekly call. Also Bruce Keith is a great guy and a good teacher but the difference in services is significant. You get what you pay for.


As for your uncle, most people know a GP in Canada is a tough way to make a living because of our socialist medicine. So you chose a poor profession to compare it to.

lucky or hunter, how is Bruce Keith's approach/system different from Mike Ferry's? I assume it's also about heavy prospecting?

Bruce Used to be a coach for MFO like many of the coaches out there.

Both systems are not only about prospecting by the way but both are about Active Lead generation and all the other systems required to run a sucessful, efficient and profitable real estate business.