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#392331 - 10/19/11 03:31 PM Re: Age Adjustments/Help?? [Re: Don Price (Pine)]
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Also - I was looking for specifics on how to determine effective age - if you use it - you should be able to explain how you arrived at it.


Marshall & Swift (residential cost handbook) has a real good chapter on how to determine effective age of a home, not a real complex formula but I wouldn't provide it to a client at a $40 price point. Basically you go through the components of the home (roof, carpet, furnace, anything that depreciates) and calculate the age.

Something to read up on to give you a perspective to look at homes differently. Age adjustments are influenced by the effective age. You can have the same aged home, one original, one with new roof, siding and windows, making it a 'newer' home because it will last longer/live longer than the non-updated home.

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#392345 - 10/19/11 06:27 PM Re: Age Adjustments/Help?? [Re: jstip]
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Your "effective age" is adjusted by your repairs/updates. The repair/replacement cost for a new roof, appliances, heatings, siding, painting... etc etc, basically updating the subject should bring the subject up to todays "standards" thereby eliminating a need for a direct effective age amount.

If the subject was built in 1950 and is original throughout, your repair/updates would include kitchen, bath, paint, siding, roof etc. as these all have an impact on value. Typical buyer would say $$"It's old and needs updating"$$ If you were to replace all of these things, your effective age is improved.

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#392352 - 10/19/11 08:07 PM Re: Age Adjustments/Help?? [Re: Bonhamax]
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Well said Bonomax. If you were in my area, I would certainly want you on my team. LOL

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#392498 - 10/20/11 09:30 PM Re: Age Adjustments/Help?? [Re: JackREO]
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Originally Posted By: JackREO
Well said Bonomax. If you were in my area, I would certainly want you on my team. LOL


You LIE!! LOL

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#392546 - 10/21/11 10:10 AM Re: Age Adjustments/Help?? [Re: JackREO]
Don Price (Pine) Offline
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Originally Posted By: JackREO
Well said Bonomax. If you were in my area, I would certainly want you on my team. LOL


I agree in part - but there is a need to be able to quantify and calculate what repairs and updates add to the 'effective' age - then the same for that age vs new.

But we're losing site of how the numbers are found - and that is basically the function of the market not a set formula - but everyone and his sister seems to have a formula they use that works - whereas the market is the only place that will prove or disprove it.

In other words - a 100 year old house that has been well maintained through the years will automatically had parts updated at different intervals, if not several items at the same time. Contrast that to a 100 year old house that has set empty for past 40 years, but well maintained, or the 100 year old home that has very few updates and held together with patchwork repairs, bailing wire and duct tape. In the Pinehurst area we have all three in the priciest parts too - not in the volume I'm sure there are in Jack's area - our specifically the areas where my sister lives in the suburb communities surrounding Boston.

They are all 100 year old homes - just in different condition - 'how' would we determine the effective age of each and what would the age adjustment be. For sake of the example - they are all 3/2 1800' with no functional obsolescence.

Short of a total rebuild - a 100 year old house will never have the same effective age as new. (of course it would be new if it was a total rebuild) That is in practical terms - but the market may show different it pricing.

The question is 'how' not why or how to handle the results after they have been determined or what they are - but how to determine the numbers.
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#392570 - 10/21/11 01:44 PM Re: Age Adjustments/Help?? [Re: Don Price (Pine)]
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I agree for the most part Pine. There are no cookie cutter adjustment folmulas. Perhaps that's the reason we all become so frustrated with QC folks that expect every aspect of a BPO to fit nicely into a predetermined slot. Think outside the box and think with a typical buyer in mind.
BTY...My comment to Bonamax is beacuse he's been a key individual in my operation for years. Actually, he's the party that first put me on to AOL....blame him!!! LOL


Edited by JackREO (10/21/11 01:46 PM)

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#392601 - 10/21/11 05:21 PM Re: Age Adjustments/Help?? [Re: JackREO]
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Registered: 02/09/07
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Loc: Ohio
Everyones responses turned the light bulb on :-) I gues I was just so frustrated I couldn't think. Which happens often lately.

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