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#376783 - 05/24/11 01:58 PM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: Grampa]
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I'm not deep into analysis, but this doesn't surprise me and I would not be surprised if NY was not far behind. I literally drive by the units everyday, some empty, some occupied, none performing. I guess the question is when do they get to the market, but is seems like we have been kicking that one around for 2 years.
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#376790 - 05/24/11 02:40 PM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: Grampa]
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#376844 - 05/25/11 03:46 AM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: Grampa]
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What irritates me is that the realtor associations and other "in the know" companies keep saying we are in a housing recovery with less houses on the market. Sometimes I feel like reo and bpo agents are the only ones paying attention to the fact that the banks are holding properties off the market, thus decreasing inventory - so we get the reports of how the foreclosure market is down and things are getting better. From the Ohio Association of Realtor's May Newsletter "Just like the weather, the market across Ohio is really heating up. And positive news abounds!
After three-plus years of what can generously be called a challenging marketplace, we’ve really begun to see signs of stabilization and growth within the residential sector. Most importantly, we’ve seen the average price of homes sold in nearly every geographic market track closely with the prior year. This is critical to the long-term viability of a recovery--as current homeowners will regain confidence that their home has value while would-be buyers are beginning to feel a sense of urgency that they shouldn’t wait much longer to take advantage of the tremendous conditions that exist with historic low rates and favorable pricing." It drives me nuts.
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#376860 - 05/25/11 07:12 AM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: OverTheEdge]
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"Just like the weather, the market across Ohio is really heating up. And positive news abounds! After three-plus years of what can generously be called a challenging marketplace, we’ve really begun to see signs of stabilization and growth within the residential sector. Most importantly, we’ve seen the average price of homes sold in nearly every geographic market track closely with the prior year. This is critical to the long-term viability of a recovery--as current homeowners will regain confidence that their home has value while would-be buyers are beginning to feel a sense of urgency that they shouldn’t wait much longer to take advantage of the tremendous conditions that exist with historic low rates and favorable pricing."
I read that a rolled my eyes. What a bunch of doofs. No different than the NAR propoganda from that moronic economist they have....I can't remember his name though.
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#376865 - 05/25/11 08:07 AM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: OverTheEdge]
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There is a heavy duty rant about this in NRBA. It totally rips NAR's statistics to shreds. Read NRBA.com Industry Buzz.
Edited by JackREO (05/25/11 08:08 AM)
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#376874 - 05/25/11 09:38 AM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: Grampa]
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No more Govt. Cheese means double dip is now in affect and the stock market is starting to show it. IMHO, we are still 3-5 years away from a true recovery.
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#376905 - 05/25/11 12:28 PM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: Grampa]
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The same can be said in the Phoenix-Metro area about the press. The local newspaper, the Arizona Republic, is stating that foreclosures are down and inventory is shrinking. They immediately say that the market is getting better. What they fail to mention is that there is an unofficial moratorium on foreclosures due to the robo-signing mess.
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#377017 - 05/26/11 09:54 AM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: Grampa]
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They also report that average sale price is increasing. Yes, it is.
However, that is because we were selling homes that sold in 2006 for $100-$200K that sold in 2010 for $60K.
Now we are selling homes that sold in 2006 for $300-$500K for $120K. Yup, average sale price is up but as a percentage the depreciation continues.
We just have a better class of foreclosure.
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#377019 - 05/26/11 10:44 AM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: Grampa]
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We just have a better class of foreclosure.
Grampa is right! I've also noticed that the "better class foreclosures" get more waaaay more successful short sales closed than the previous class of foreclosures. Why? I don't know - might be pressure to foreclose less and short sale more.
Edited by Artiste (05/26/11 10:45 AM)
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#377024 - 05/26/11 11:49 AM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: JackREO]
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There is a heavy duty rant about this in NRBA. It totally rips NAR's statistics to shreds. Read NRBA.com Industry Buzz. Jack I'm reading your rant in NRBA.com and I'm laughing...I, too, read Rip Van Winkle and enjoyed it. You make a lot of sense. Now I know you like reading fiction...LOL I know that the economic indicators are not in place to support any sustained growth.
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#377026 - 05/26/11 12:23 PM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: FL_Agent]
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Thank you much. I have a ton of fun ranting on this industry. Such a large easy target
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#377027 - 05/26/11 12:35 PM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
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#377029 - 05/26/11 12:39 PM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
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I liked the article too. I didn't know you were part of NRBA. I wish I could join, but alas haven't sold REOs for 3 different companies yet, just two and one was a year or more ago. Hopefully I will get the chance some day to join.
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#377079 - 05/26/11 06:18 PM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: Grampa]
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Thanks Artiste!!! That is an awesome perspective and one I am embracing after the day I have had.
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#377088 - 05/26/11 07:07 PM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: ColoBroker]
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I wrote two rants there, the other one is major wisem A--.
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#380370 - 06/21/11 06:05 PM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
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This is a copy of a post on LinkedIn from a lawn care service with on goingcontracts for REO properties. It was a response to Shadow Inventory comments.
"I am not a broker and have no expertise in that arena but if Inventory sitting and waiting in imaginary pipelines has been a HUGE bogeyman......how come out of the 168 lawns my crews cut last week only 13 had for sale signs. Also about half of them we have maintained for going on 2 years. If there was not a "shadow" inventory we would not be as busy as we are in the reoccurring services division."
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#380410 - 06/22/11 07:49 AM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
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No more Govt. Cheese means double dip is now in affect and the stock market is starting to show it. IMHO, we are still 3-5 years away from a true recovery. There are some economists who are not propagandists who are challenging that we are in a double dip. According to them we are still on the first decline. Never went up enough to consider it a change in direction on an upside to give us a double dip.
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#380416 - 06/22/11 08:09 AM
Re: Banks own 2 times as many homes as in 2007
[Re: Grampa]
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There are some economists who are not propagandists who are challenging that we are in a double dip. According to them we are still on the first decline. Never went up enough to consider it a change in direction on an upside to give us a double dip. Grampa: That kind of reminds we of whenever I hear a government spokesperson saying we are in a "fragile recovery". Do you know of anyone personally who is currently recovering fragilely? Also another good one is when the government says that the numbers are worse than expected, yet they never really say what those expected numbers are!
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