Call me blonde (It's okay, b/c I am), but I can't find the location of this forum!

I need help too!

Have you been given permission to access the page?

How do I get permission to access the page?

Send a private message to one of the moderators and include you name and license info. so they can verify you are an agent.

looks like they just want to keep the riff raff out..

nothing better than to be around agreeable people--even if everyone agrees on the wrong thing!

i guess selective censorship keeps us warm at night.

to bad the actual people who would need this forum will not have access to the few who were willing to share!

i was never was one of the 'club house' 'keep out' types anyway..
i am just a silly liberal who feels we are here to help each other out and share..i mean after all--none of us live forever and we cannot it with us!

BpoJoe NOT a member of the HeManWomanHatersClub..

Any licensed real estate agent is granted permission. I've had lots of people PM me and I've approved every one of them.

this is you guys' forum so you all can do what you want....
i just think it really odd to expect people to give private and even professional information for a public forum.
i have never heard of anything like this ever.

it would be a very cold day in Hades before i would give a forum my professional information--but that is me.

the whole purpose of a public forum is to be-public.

anyway--this is not my sand box. i read the forum a few times a week to see if anyone is having issues or if anyone has questions.
i just think it is very strange --
i do not know how any serious business person would offer up critical information in a forum that could affect their business.

but again--i have too much invested in my license to play games with it!
do not mean to sound crass--i am just not fan of censorship and prima donna exclusionary practices...
anyway---I hope everyone is making lots of money and are riding that wave to happy times and big bank accounts~

It's not an exclusive club. All you need is an active real estate license. If you had been a member of this forum a few years ago, you'd see why this came about. Our "troll hits" have almost disappeared, for starters.

BPO Joe gets his jollies by being a contrarian.
If you said you did 250 BPO's this week, he'd say he did 260.
All that is gained by replying to him is he gets another chance to post something as bait for the netherworld.
Ignore him and he will take it somewhere else.

I think it's funny BPO Joe is giving us a hard time. I already know his real name, website, company name and license number. He's even a qualifying broker like myself.

All you have to do is swallow your pride and ask. You're right across Alligator Alley from me.

Come to the dark side Joe, Ben has cookies

well you may have but only because i was kind enough to send you some information to help your or someone shared something i gave them.

but hey--talk is cheap---you have my email--shoot me an email!


now the other issues!

1. it seems on many of these forums -the definition of the 'troll' is someone who others disagree with--guilty!
i really think it is funny though when people call me a troll who have been on this forum less time than I have.
i also think it funny that i am have been consistently correct--like it or not!

and 2.
i have never ever ever said i did 250 bpos in a week--unless it was a typo---which i do make a lot of typos-but i do not think i ever made that time~

so, go back and read my post--239 last month..last year this time i did 278--

so whatever!

it is not a matter of 'darkside'. i know why people have 'private' forums--they do not want to have any dissent. that is why i kew there was a big tea party fan club hear!
everyone lives in the echo chamber and never listens or read anything that would burst that little fantasy--

well guess what folks--dissent and diversity made America---not isolationism and retreat.
i have no desire to be a part of any 'choir' who sings only to hear the sound of their own voices--

and for the record--yes i like being a contrarian—or like we say here in the other darkside---THE DEVIL’S ADVOCATE!

http://www.agentsonline.net/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/344041/2.html

This seems to explain the reasons pretty well for me. I am not sure what the big deal is. if you read the post I just posted above you will see that one only need PM the Admin with their info. Also if you notice pretty much all the veterans that had been members for a while were given access. If not, all they had to do was PM the Admin and mention it. While this is a forum where the public can come to for questions and answers, It is also a forum for the Professional Real Estate Community. That being said it would make sense to have a section that is only for Real Estate Professionals. There are some topics/ subject that would not pertai to anyone , unless you were a Real Estate Professional. I don't know. Seems fine to me.

well in case you did not notice--few if anyone is 'marketing' their business here--actually this would be againt board rules?
and also-in case this slipped your observations--people do not even use their real name?
including YOU!
so i would assume you will be posting YOUR name and company info?
did not think so--even though it seems fine..

unlike others who do not undertand that they everything they say are contradictions to everything they claim to stand for--i try to stay consitent..

see--i have been on chats and forums since the 1990's.
not only have I had scumbag 'trolls' call my businesses and harass my employees--after i became poltical online--i had some real scum bag polticians pull my business records, do an illegal credit check--i was audited 2 times back to back..

so while i doubt any admin would do anything to 'harass me'--i just have a personal resentment for public forums who exclude those who they disagree with.
this forum was supposed to inform--yet those who need the information to 'get into' the bpo or reo business are exluded.

nevertheless, i have good reason to limit those who have my company info---ironcially those who claim to be the most'righteous' and pious tend to be the most vindictive, mean and harmful!
i can fight them off--but it is time consuming!

so please--feel free to post YOUR private info on the forum--i am sure it is fine--i mean YOU are here to 'drum up' business right?

I dont even know why we have a seperate thread for the same topics. Why not just have 1 thread, and make it private. Dual threads is annoying.

Actually I looked at your public e-mail address on your profile, went to the website, saw who owned the domain name and searched for the name on the Florida DBPR website. Not nearly as heart touching as you reaching out to help me.

I'll make a note on your account that you don't want access to the secretive, socialist agenda, BPO forum ran by Obama and Bill Ayers so other mods won't grant you access.

Maybe it's because new members can start redundant threads, not knowing that the subject has been discussed in the private Forum already . . . . (because they can't know) so multiple threads and posts are spawned, destined to wander about cyberspace endlessly, never knowing that they have relatives right here.

It's so like a nuclear chain reaction, or a Humptey-Dumptey, who can never be put back together again.

But I digress.

That's too funny. I thought BPOs and REOs were already supposed to die out last year? hahahahaha!! Nice revisionist history.


Now, THAT is the definition of irony. Troll.

it would be a very cold day in Hades before i would give a forum my professional information--but that is me.

YOU ARE NOT VERY GOOD AT BEING SECRETIVE..YOUR PROFILE LISTS YOUR WEBSITE..0 COMMISSION FEES..HOW DO YOU DO THAT..

It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

WS

Flat fee listings Stew. As you know here in Florida you can be have non-representation agency with the public. Thus he throws the property in MLS for a fee, and he is done. I would think the key is to take overpriced listings in the hopes they don't sell. That way you could hit them up for more money by getting them to renew for a nominal fee when the original listing agreement is about to expire.

It's perfectly legal but a little unorthodox IMO. I mean, as a buyer's agent are you really going to go out of your way to show a home where you will have to negotiate directly with a seller and deal with him/her all the way to closing?

No thanks!!

To me a mls only listing is not a zero comission deal..you are still paying the commission to the buyers agent

Straight mls listings are such an insult...buyers agents know they will be doing the work of both sides to make closing happen with only a 1 side commission...I would run from a non represented listing.
And is there no responsibility of the "listing agent" to verifiy the accuracy of the listing? I've seen my REO's being flipped and listed with the local cheap mls fee listing fee and the mls included the wrong square footage and other obviously inaccurate data..

Originally Posted By: bpojoe

well in case you did not notice--few if anyone is 'marketing' their business here--actually this would be againt board rules? I never said one would or should market their business on this forum. I was just trying to compare to everyday business life. Now that you clarified your position better I can empathize better with your stance on this.
and also-in case this slipped your observations--people do not even use their real name?
including YOU! I had to laugh at this one because that is an assumption on your part.
so i would assume you will be posting YOUR name and company info?
did not think so--even though it seems fine.. Not sure if I would, but I am sure if someone took the time to do a search they could find my info with no problem. Also if someone Pm'ed me for help I would do my best to provide info for help. Aslo I have given my info to the Admin with no problem, because I know that it will not be shared with anyone else. If you do a quick search you will know who the Admin is and their name.

unlike others who do not undertand that they everything they say are contradictions to everything they claim to stand for--i try to stay consitent..

see--i have been on chats and forums since the 1990's.
not only have I had scumbag 'trolls' call my businesses and harass my employees--after i became poltical online--i had some real scum bag polticians pull my business records, do an illegal credit check--i was audited 2 times back to back.. Again I now have a better understanding of where your coming from. And I can see your points. Still you have to bend a little sometimes. Can't let the past totally dictate how you act today. Be cautious yes. Let it control your every move no. Not saying that is what has happend, but in general.

so while i doubt any admin would do anything to 'harass me'--i just have a personal resentment for public forums who exclude those who they disagree with.
this forum was supposed to inform--yet those who need the information to 'get into' the bpo or reo business are exluded. Again those who are looking to get into the bpo or reo business have the same chance that we all do. All they have to do is prove that they are licensed to the Admin or mods. Seems simple enough and not much to ask for. If most people looking to get into the reo, bpo business are willing to sign up with unknown companies and pay hundreds of dollars for chance to get business. Then I do not see why it would be a problem proving that you are a licensed professional to an Admin who belongs to a Real Estate forum that is well known and has been here for years.

nevertheless, i have good reason to limit those who have my company info---ironcially those who claim to be the most'righteous' and pious tend to be the most vindictive, mean and harmful!
i can fight them off--but it is time consuming! I agree with this and it is just a realality that we all have to face in our everyday lives.

so please--feel free to post YOUR private info on the forum--i am sure it is fine--i mean YOU are here to 'drum up' business right? [/quote] On the other hand if someone needs help or if Admin needed my info to verify who I was( which I have done) I have no problem doing it. Again I never said you should post all your info on a forum/blog site. I was just trying to address your statement about the general public having your info. I was just trying to say that in everyday life this info is readily at one's disposal. I now see you were just talking about an internet forum and not everyday, outside world life. Sadly on a public forum what one says can come back to bite them or hinder their responses. So in a sense we do and should be Anonymous for some of the very same points that you stated before.

You've got it all wrong, Joe. The private side has absolutely nothing to do with keeping riff raff out, or being with people who agree with us, or selective censorship. It's not an exclusive club. But sometimes we let our hair down and say things that probably shouldn't be all over the internet. It is not used as a soapbox to make unkind comments about others in real estate.

this is the most obvious reason for me as well...


nevertheless, DelCidsRealty- you seem to be fair and i appreciate your objective stance..

i guess there is irony of me wanting privacy and being stupid enough to post personal stuff..
in my defence--when i joined this forum many moons ago--i really did not think about it being full of these 'attackers' that show up every time I post...

and to 'respond' to some of their concerns?
1. i never said bpos would be DEAD for everyone---just many--and they are--correct?
2. as far as my '0' commsssion--yes you can list your home in the mls with -0- commission...
in case anyone forgot real estate 101? all commissions are negotiable and cannot be standardized or finite.
i can make it 1 dollar or 100% of sale ---it is my perogative--

but if anyone does not believe i will list their home for -0- commission---
please feel free to pay me $349 to find out~
100% money back guarantee!
hehehe

as far as those who call me a troll? i take that as a compliment from those who 'silly' enough to post it.

and to the real sillys who say, "hey man $1 is not free--you lie bpojoe"--i give that $1 back at closing.

silly wabbits~

sorry--just for old time sakes.

but at least we got this stepchild thread going again huh?

a lot better than that sleepy old kumbaya thread of the 'chosen' few?

he it is a free country and we can have a dupicate thread for everyone on every topic--it is fine with me!

but until i get banned--i believe i still have a right to my opinion right?

oh ya--thanks to the haters for not burning up my phone line!
peace~

For a "private" forum, it's pretty public. AOL has a Twitter feed and every new post is fed to the Twitter account within a few minutes.
So anything in the so-called "Private forum" is available to the public almost immediately. I saw a few yesterday.
When dealing with anything on-line, the best rule is don't write anything you wouldn't want your mother to see.

Edit A couple of hour later- after thinking about this, I realized it may have been this thread I saw on Twitter. Mods??

well Brad--you are close--but no cigar..

1. we do not 'hit them up' for more money
2. i literally had 3 people email me to day with contracts on their home--to them--i am anything but 'unorthodox'. One client got an offer 2nd day listed-by another realtor
3. 2 of 3 of these clients actually paid full commission to the buyer agent’s--again do not see where that is 'unorthodox'
4. my ‘unorthodox’ business has paid millions in commissions to buyers agent—you know those who actually do work? Only people who have a problem with is the ‘listing agents’---and we know why!


so as always--i deal with the nonsense of the haters and the uninformed who slam first and actually read last..

i am not sure whose business it is how much commission i take anyway. That is the biggest joke about the tea party types—always wanting people out of their business as they have their noses up in everyone else’s. classic conservative hypocrisy~
now let me see--for a $300,000 home--i charge 349 to sale a house (with maybe 9,000 commission) and many of you will charge $21,000 for doing the same thing--only difference is i send buyers to the seller and YOU ALL drive them or just let someone else sell it for you?

ya what ever ---

and for the record--i have not went into 1 persons profile on this or any other forum..i really do not care who any of you are or what you do—your posts tell me enough.
YET, many here--as in other places, feel the need to get into my business? Classic~

i think many of you have too much time on your hands...

so instead of criticizing me---try to snatch a few more bpos--you will sleep better at night!
i promise!

Joe- You are a bit paranoid and way too defensive. You call Brad a hater for what he said? Really? He stated what you wre doing is perfectly legal. Sorry, it IS unorthodox...doesn't mean anybody is hating on you.

You have managed to get under just about everybodys skin that you can. You are a troll. A troll is one who lays bait and sits back and enjolys the attention he receives when said bait is taken. You have been trolling this board since the first time you posted. I just took your bait....happy?

Joe-- Please change your user name to "Table for One".

"Fish on".........lol.

"YBE,
if you go to http://www.4thishouse.com, you can get a total flat fee franchise and do flat fees nationwide. a complete 100% turn key. they also will even give you leads. They do everything but bring money to your house."

this was my first post---and it was to 'assist' another poster..as i have done consistently throughout all of my posts(whether to give information or debunk misinformation)
so again--you as other are posting INCORRECT INFO---which i believe is the REAL meaning of a troll?
yes guess someone like me would be considered a troll to a real troll..
but i have yet to post anything false, exaggerated, fabricated or untrue...yet every single attack on me has a misrepresentation of what i actually said or just wrong information--which i quickly debunked!

as far as what i do to be 'unorthodox'--i am in Florida--most of what happens here is unorthodox to the rest of America. I may have been a bit quick to react to that-my bad(I really hate that phrase btw)-but where i am, it is really not unusual(or unorthodox) to be creative and current. if you tell people here you will offer 50% commission spit or tell a seller you want 7%--they would look at you like you were from mars-if they do not just laugh in your face. i forget sometime what it is like in the 'real America'...
but back to the troll thing- if you can post one thing i have said that i have not substantiated, proved or that i have maliciously fabricated---kind of what others do to me?
you may want to actually do a 3 minute research s you know what you are talking about!
i am rubber and YOU are glue i guess huh?
peace~

Now that is true!!!

It amazes me how people here would rather play "feed the troll" than address valid issues pertaining to our business.