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#364748 - 01/26/11 03:36 PM Evil is lurking folks!!
robbyrob Offline
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Registered: 02/06/08
Posts: 101
Loc: FL
I have received at least 10 emails from evil trying to give me about 20 jobs due um tomorrow by 2pm. lol yea right, lord knows i need the work but call me crazy I have a hard time working for free. just giving you guys a heads up or any one in need of work and you get these emails just know you might get the work but your chances of getting paid are slim to none from what I have read on here and other threads about these guys.

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#364755 - 01/26/11 05:18 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: robbyrob]
BPOmaster Offline
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Registered: 01/18/11
Posts: 868
Loc: FL
They did that to me one Friday night, sent 20-30 orders with a sat-sun deadline. What? Are they crazy ?

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#364757 - 01/26/11 05:41 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: BPOmaster]
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Posts: 2335
Loc: Northern Colorado
Are they still sending the orders from a verizon blackberry?
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#364761 - 01/26/11 06:05 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: ColoBroker]
fishingbpoandreo Offline
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Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 33
Loc: miami, fl
same thing here.... they have been slamming my phone all day long trying to make me accept orders due the next day for $45. I have had so much fun sending them to hell.

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#364789 - 01/26/11 10:54 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: fishingbpoandreo]
Karlheinz3 Offline
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Registered: 10/14/07
Posts: 14
Loc: Huron, Ohio
Waiting sucks but I made over $10,000 from them last year. Gotta love those required angle shots!
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#364790 - 01/26/11 10:56 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: fishingbpoandreo]
Karlheinz3 Offline
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Registered: 10/14/07
Posts: 14
Loc: Huron, Ohio
Waiting sucks but I made over $10,000 from them last year. Gotta love those required angle shots!
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#364870 - 01/27/11 05:14 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: Karlheinz3]
CentralFLbeepo Offline
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Registered: 01/27/11
Posts: 67
Loc: Florida
I did 2 for them a few months ago, got paid after sending the same "where's my money" email 20 times in the morning and then again 20 times around noon. Had check within 3 days.
Now I have 11 completed, did the same emailing game today, got a reply they have my check in the mail by the end of the week the latest.
I'm reading tons of tons of complaints from agents but 90% of them state they never called, never emailed etc. Looks like that's how this company is operating. Few extra hundred bucks a month is nice so I don't mind the email game as long as I know I get paid.
Now I won't accept anything else until I see that check next week.

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#364875 - 01/27/11 05:44 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: CentralFLbeepo]
AliceInReoLand Offline
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Registered: 09/28/07
Posts: 1166
Loc: Land of fruits and nuts.
They CALL me. They actually CALL me. I hit end.
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#364876 - 01/27/11 05:52 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: CentralFLbeepo]
smg Offline
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Posts: 2130
Loc: United States
Originally Posted By: CentralFLbeepo
I did 2 for them a few months ago, got paid after sending the same "where's my money" email 20 times in the morning and then again 20 times around noon. Had check within 3 days.
Now I have 11 completed, did the same emailing game today, got a reply they have my check in the mail by the end of the week the latest.
I'm reading tons of tons of complaints from agents but 90% of them state they never called, never emailed etc. Looks like that's how this company is operating. Few extra hundred bucks a month is nice so I don't mind the email game as long as I know I get paid.
Now I won't accept anything else until I see that check next week.


Sorry, I can't patronize a company that is screwing my peers for openers. If more of us said no to them, they would cease to operate. If a company is screwing my buddies here on this forum and others I know, I do not care to give them my business or my efforts. Secondly, I am not interested in doing a BPO for $45 or $50 and emailing numerous times and finally feeling successful when I get paid. Typing emails, sending followups, sending more emails...all of that so you can do orders for them? No thanks.

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#364905 - 01/27/11 09:29 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: smg]
Char K Offline
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Registered: 02/25/08
Posts: 826
Loc: USA
Is there some way to say you want to be taken off their list......I too would love some work but won't take the chance of not getting a check. I work for plenty who pay 60 days out, dont like it but the check does come! And without any harassment necessary!
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#364913 - 01/27/11 10:24 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: Char K]
smg Offline
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I have asked these guys to stop calling and emailing, but they continue to do so. I have never done one order for them, thx to this board. I do have their emails and UTLS emails routed straight to junk, but these guys still call...

But to your point Char, at least with 60 day payers you know you will be paid. I am not interested in one I have to keep emailing to get paid...

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#364914 - 01/27/11 10:33 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: smg]
stressmanagement Offline
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Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 22
Loc: Hudson County, NJ
The last time i was paid was in July.

One of the processors sent a payment inquiry back in November (for orders completed late July-Early September). The issue wasn't escalated.

I completed about 10 orders from Mid September-end of October. In total i'm owed for about 15 orders.

Last week i called in and someone actually picked up the phone for once. He looked at my profile and was taken aback. He said he would send it to management. I received last week from "payment inquiry" saying that it has been sent to accounting and that i would receive an email when the check is to be sent out.

No check or email just yet.

As a side note: i completed about 13 in November. At this rate i'm lucky if i get a check for that by June.

They're on the dead to me list after i get my money. I'd rather have 0 orders on the day than to do one for these guys and toss and turn at night wondering if i'll get paid. Besides that: the forms are too damn long (even as a fast typer).

They want us to rush the order in 24 hours and have us wait 5 months to get paid for it. I've had enough of them. Too many shennanighans going on over there.

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#364915 - 01/27/11 10:55 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: stressmanagement]
stressmanagement Offline
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Registered: 12/12/09
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Loc: Hudson County, NJ
I should also note that i sent out 10 seperate emails since late December and not a single one of the recepients responded in kind.

Its not worth it.

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#364919 - 01/27/11 11:46 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: stressmanagement]
reosf Offline
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Registered: 10/28/10
Posts: 88
Loc: nor cal
Do they have auto software that can send out a 100 emails a day to mills that don't pay? BPO automation should look into adding that feature. Would make life easier for vendors of evil one.

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#364976 - 01/28/11 01:30 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: reosf]
12 step 4 BPOs? Offline
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Loc: Land of Tree Huggers
Here is a funny one. I have been trying to get on with them. Whe you call it tells you to press one if you know the extension and 2 to repeat the options....uh, not a lot of options there peeps! Then I email them and they ignore me too. Weird, weird, weird.

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#364977 - 01/28/11 01:49 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: 12 step 4 BPOs?]
Houston Agent Offline
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My favorites are the rush exteriors for orders in El Paso. I'm in Houston.

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#365005 - 01/28/11 05:40 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: 12 step 4 BPOs?]
smg Offline
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Loc: United States
Originally Posted By: 12 step 4 BPOs?
Here is a funny one. I have been trying to get on with them.


The obvious question.

Why?

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#365017 - 01/28/11 07:24 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: smg]
CandyMan Offline
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Posts: 2480
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: smg
Originally Posted By: 12 step 4 BPOs?
Here is a funny one. I have been trying to get on with them.


The obvious question.

Why?


That's an easy one to answer......"We all have different thresholds for pain."
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#365026 - 01/28/11 09:09 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: smg]
12 step 4 BPOs? Offline
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Originally Posted By: smg
Originally Posted By: 12 step 4 BPOs?
Here is a funny one. I have been trying to get on with them.


The obvious question.

Why?


I knew I was going to get this question....just to see if I could is the answer....just to see if I could. I do that for a lot of things....probably should find a better way to spend my time....

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#365027 - 01/28/11 09:09 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: 12 step 4 BPOs?]
12 step 4 BPOs? Offline
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Originally Posted By: 12 step 4 BPOs?
Originally Posted By: smg
Originally Posted By: 12 step 4 BPOs?
Here is a funny one. I have been trying to get on with them.


The obvious question.

Why?


I knew I was going to get this question....just to see if I could is the answer....just to see if I could. I do that for a lot of things....probably should find a better way to spend my time....


That, or since I fired Brokerpriceopinion.com I am not feeling abused enough and needed to get back in the abuse cycle.

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#365029 - 01/28/11 09:27 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: 12 step 4 BPOs?]
CandyMan Offline
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Loc: California
Originally Posted By: 12 step 4 BPOs?
Originally Posted By: smg
Originally Posted By: 12 step 4 BPOs?
Here is a funny one. I have been trying to get on with them.


The obvious question.

Why?


I knew I was going to get this question....just to see if I could is the answer....just to see if I could. I do that for a lot of things....probably should find a better way to spend my time....


Please don't take any of this personal. We have a ton of "seasoned members" that show concern when one indicates they may be heading in the direction you had indicated. If you haven't noticed, we kind of take care of each other in this forum, even the newbies.
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#365030 - 01/28/11 09:43 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: 12 step 4 BPOs?]
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Originally Posted By: 12 step 4 BPOs?
Here is a funny one. I have been trying to get on with them.
Please step back from the ledge. I've been there friend. Slow week, feeling down, this company baits me with a large number of orders, paying fat fees. My sadness fadeed fast and my pride swelled until a voice in my head told me to run it by the crew on the forum. The good folk here talked me down off the ledge. You too can stop the madness. Just ask yourself..is it really worth it? Your time would be better spent dusting off your magazine collection.
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#365041 - 01/29/11 12:11 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: Doin' bpose]
robbyrob Offline
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Registered: 02/06/08
Posts: 101
Loc: FL
I agree I too have been soo tempted to take the bait this week. With business soo slow I'm like maybe it will be different with me, maybe I'll get paid. Thing is everytime I look them up I can not work for these people. Anyway you put it I just can't justify working for free.

Trust me I feel your pain. I think in a way we all do. But trust me it's not worth it, forget us just goggle their name. You'll see your better off not being with them. I finally put them to spam folder, just to not torment myself...

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#365042 - 01/29/11 12:25 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: Doin' bpose]
CandyMan Offline
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Posts: 2480
Loc: California
I think it's been slow for most of us this week....just part of the game. In the past 3 weeks, most of my orders have been interiors......I assume shorts and mods have taken the lead. Next week starts a new month. I think we're going to be real busy....just a gut feeling.
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#365051 - 01/29/11 06:53 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: CandyMan]
BPOmaster Offline
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Registered: 01/18/11
Posts: 868
Loc: FL
I think things will be ramping up soon. An asset company that assigns massive numbers of listings (for one bank) in my area called and wanted a resume, location etc. I looked into a few selected agents in the area that work with them and they each had 50-90 active listings at this time with the same vendor. These agents are landing 150-190k per Q from these assignments even if they are only getting 2% on the listing side.
I am not looking for that many at one time, but I can surely handle 10-15 at a time. The agents that have up to 90 listings have to employ a crew and cannot serve the agents correctly. I don't wish to be that type agent. If I can't be 100% to my fellow agents, I don't want to destroy my reputation in the field when this is all over. I just attempted to do a deal with one of the BIG ones and it was a terrible, terrible transaction.
If they can toss me a 10-15 ongoing listing contract, I will gladly give up my BPO work as my eyes have taken that toll in the past four years being on the computer so much. The asset manager indicated they have a ton of properties on the HOLD status for the bank.It's just a matter of time till they will need to be assigned.

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#365053 - 01/29/11 06:57 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: Houston Agent]
BPOmaster Offline
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Registered: 01/18/11
Posts: 868
Loc: FL
Don't you have control over your zip codes before they try to assign the orders ? I never get work that I have not asked for out of my area and if I do , they made a mistake on the zip on the order and I let them know to correct and re-assign.

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#365072 - 01/29/11 11:38 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: Doin' bpose]
northtxbroker Offline
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Registered: 05/17/07
Posts: 1858
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: Doin' bpose
Originally Posted By: 12 step 4 BPOs?
Here is a funny one. I have been trying to get on with them.
Please step back from the ledge. I've been there friend. Slow week, feeling down, this company baits me with a large number of orders, paying fat fees. My sadness faded fast and my pride swelled until a voice in my head told me to run it by the crew on the forum. The good folk here talked me down off the ledge. You too can stop the madness. Just ask yourself..is it really worth it? Your time would be better spent dusting off your magazine collection.

I would rather attempt to shove a pissed-off porcupine through my retina than do one order for these psychopathic, lying bastards. That should tell you all you need to know about this "company".

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#365243 - 01/31/11 07:30 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: northtxbroker]
robbyrob Offline
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Registered: 02/06/08
Posts: 101
Loc: FL
I'll second that and I haven't even ever worked for them..

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#365359 - 01/31/11 08:59 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: 12 step 4 BPOs?]
stressmanagement Offline
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Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 22
Loc: Hudson County, NJ
You know the really interesting thing about someone answering their main line (i was really surprised at the time), was the sound of buzz saws, nails, and hammers in the background. They must be renovating their offices with the money they stiffed agents.

Still haven't received a check or an email stating that the check has been sent out.

I'm going to have to get an attorney to send a demand letter--including late fees. Maybe that will force someone to get on this asap.

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#365374 - 01/31/11 11:27 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: northtxbroker]
12 step 4 BPOs? Offline
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Registered: 06/27/10
Posts: 377
Loc: Land of Tree Huggers
Originally Posted By: northtxbroker
Originally Posted By: Doin' bpose
Originally Posted By: 12 step 4 BPOs?
Here is a funny one. I have been trying to get on with them.
Please step back from the ledge. I've been there friend. Slow week, feeling down, this company baits me with a large number of orders, paying fat fees. My sadness faded fast and my pride swelled until a voice in my head told me to run it by the crew on the forum. The good folk here talked me down off the ledge. You too can stop the madness. Just ask yourself..is it really worth it? Your time would be better spent dusting off your magazine collection.

I would rather attempt to shove a pissed-off porcupine through my retina than do one order for these psychopathic, lying bastards. That should tell you all you need to know about this "company".


Giggle time! That was a good one!

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#365468 - 02/01/11 06:43 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: 12 step 4 BPOs?]
BUBBLEBURST Offline
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Registered: 08/26/03
Posts: 75
Loc: Florida
OK so i took the bait last Thursday, Friday and they were still calling me and emailing begging me to take the orders due in less than 24 hours and for $40 on Saturday afternoon. They even told me don't worry it's a desktop BPO as we already have photos.

I had worked with them on two Bpo's back in 06, and don't remember for the life of me why I never kept working with them.

I was so happy that a mill was sending me orders as difficult (too many pages on their form and they require stupid ansers like the listing office address WTF? )and cheap as they were the only mill I heard from in weeks.

Then after finishing the orders on Saturday night, (yes my whole Saturday was gone) I decided to log onto to you guys, long and behold the comments of those of you who have never gotten paid or had to harrass them to get paid made me wanna CRY!!!! AND CRY HARD I DID!!!! Then it dawned on me why I hadn't work with them since 2006, THEY DON"T PAY.


So help me BPO GOds, if these "EVIL" people don't pay me by end of the month, I will let the companies they work for what and who they have working for them.

They literally begged all of us who got thier email to work for them and turn the orders in a hurry. Hell no never again!

If I have to, I will drive to Jacksonville and get my $$$$$$$>

Should have read you guys on WEdnesday, Argh!
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#365469 - 02/01/11 06:47 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: BUBBLEBURST]
BPOmaster Offline
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Registered: 01/18/11
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Loc: FL
What Mill was that ?

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#365471 - 02/01/11 06:58 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: BPOmaster]
BUBBLEBURST Offline
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Registered: 08/26/03
Posts: 75
Loc: Florida
The Evil one.
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#365474 - 02/01/11 07:11 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: BPOmaster]
skorpion Offline
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Registered: 06/01/09
Posts: 237
Loc: Capital of REOs
Sounds like evalonline....

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#365483 - 02/01/11 08:52 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: 12 step 4 BPOs?]
stressmanagement Offline
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Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 22
Loc: Hudson County, NJ
Update: I went on the REOPRO forum and saw someone comment on receiving a response from melissa rivers in accounting.

So last night i emailed mrivers@evalonline.com

Low and behold i received a response from her this morning, briefly stating that the check (if it hasn't already been mailed out) will be sent by Friday.

Time will tell.

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#365485 - 02/01/11 08:56 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: stressmanagement]
BPOmaster Offline
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Posts: 868
Loc: FL
If you don't trust em, don't work for em smile

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#365755 - 02/04/11 02:03 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: stressmanagement]
REOGUY53 Offline
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Registered: 04/07/10
Posts: 8
Loc: USA,USA
10 orders still waiting to get paid on done in oct and nov. Thanks for the email. I just sent her the nicest little note about my orders I completed.

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#365780 - 02/04/11 09:41 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: REOGUY53]
Georgia Beach Offline
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Registered: 08/24/10
Posts: 39
Loc: Georgia
Does anyone have thoughts regarding CoreLogic? Do they pay? I too have found that emailing mrivers will eventually end in a check in the mailbox. You might have to call and email her after the "first" check gets lost in the mail. Altisource finally paid me for a BPO completed in September that they kept tellin me I didn't do! I had the saved form and emailed it back to them on many occasions. Shouldn't be this way but it is! CoreLogic is requiring a certification course (no fee) and I will do it if they actually pay for my work. But I don't have time to take on another job for free. I do all the work on the BPO's myself. Any information will be appreciated.

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#365782 - 02/04/11 09:47 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: Georgia Beach]
BPOmaster Offline
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Loc: FL
If the online company does not have the pay schedules for your view on the site or have a system that keeps all your past orders on file and shows you when your payment will be made, I would not do business with them.
Most are VERY good about that. It's the requests you get by phone for BPO work that you should never trust. They just want free work done on a faulse promise to get the lisitng. Scams !@

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#365783 - 02/04/11 09:47 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: Georgia Beach]
Vermont Offline
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Registered: 04/12/08
Posts: 4726
Loc: Vermont's North-East Kingdom
You should submit your R.E. License credentials to one of the Mods and gain entry to the Non-Public Forum (BPO,REO, and Foreclosure Asset Managers) where each of these specific Companies is discussed in seperate threads. We can't really discuss Evaluation Solutions, FARVV (CL), and Altisource together in the same thread without getting all screwed up.
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#365790 - 02/04/11 10:43 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: Georgia Beach]
smg Offline
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Loc: United States
Originally Posted By: Georgia Beach
Does anyone have thoughts regarding CoreLogic? Do they pay? I too have found that emailing mrivers will eventually end in a check in the mailbox. You might have to call and email her after the "first" check gets lost in the mail. Altisource finally paid me for a BPO completed in September that they kept tellin me I didn't do! I had the saved form and emailed it back to them on many occasions. Shouldn't be this way but it is! CoreLogic is requiring a certification course (no fee) and I will do it if they actually pay for my work. But I don't have time to take on another job for free. I do all the work on the BPO's myself. Any information will be appreciated.


Why not create a new topic or do a search and read up on Corelogic? I have seen a couple of threads now where you have gone off topic and asked about Corelogic(the other being price of gas and BPOs).
No offense, but hijacking different threads won't fly. We have quite a few threads about Corelogic floating about and you could gain info from those. Or gain access into the asset managers area where all of the providers are discussed at length.

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#365797 - 02/04/11 11:50 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: smg]
Georgia Beach Offline
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Registered: 08/24/10
Posts: 39
Loc: Georgia
Did not intend to offend or hijack. Just trying to get some helpful feedback and not sure where to enter. Thanks for the instruction.

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#366121 - 02/08/11 06:16 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: stressmanagement]
CentralFLbeepo Offline
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Registered: 01/27/11
Posts: 67
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: stressmanagement
Update: I went on the REOPRO forum and saw someone comment on receiving a response from melissa rivers in accounting.

So last night i emailed mrivers@evalonline.com

Low and behold i received a response from her this morning, briefly stating that the check (if it hasn't already been mailed out) will be sent by Friday.

Time will tell.


Might have been me, I've been emailing her after vendorinquiry@evilonline didn't reply for days. I don't wait around long until I start asking when I can expect payment. I detailed all the BPOs I had done for them with order number, TAT and everything, so there's no excuse for them to say "Uh, we're not sure what order you are referring to". I was told the check would be mailed last week. Got it yesterday.

I thanked her for her prompt reply and was nice to her. I also sent her a thank you note that I received the check.

Did you get yours?

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#366169 - 02/08/11 04:07 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: CentralFLbeepo]
stressmanagement Offline
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Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 22
Loc: Hudson County, NJ
Hi Central,

Yes: I received a check on Monday. However, these unmentionable names took it upon themselves to change my compensation on a number of orders (only compensated 10 and 25 dollars in some cases for orders completed in under a day) along with changing my compensation from 80 (which was super cheap!) to 65 on commercial BPOs (i had to point out that some of the properties assigned were in fact commercial).

I'm not even going to get into another drawn out battle with them. Better to take my money and get the hell out of there!

Glad to hear that email worked out for you as well. =)

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#366177 - 02/08/11 06:47 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: stressmanagement]
CentralFLbeepo Offline
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Registered: 01/27/11
Posts: 67
Loc: Florida
Glad you got paid. I really only take them as fillers and I guess it's been rather slow lately....

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#366178 - 02/08/11 07:04 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: stressmanagement]
Vermont Offline
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Registered: 04/12/08
Posts: 4726
Loc: Vermont's North-East Kingdom
Originally Posted By: stressmanagement
". . . these unmentionable names took it upon themselves to change my compensation on a number of orders (only compensated 10 and 25 dollars in some cases for orders completed in under a day) along with changing my compensation from 80 (which was super cheap!) to 65 on commercial BPOs . . ."

Somehow, I find that far more offensive than just failing to pay, or being slow in paying. This can't be chalked up to delays in accounting. This sounds like a deliberate breach of their agreement with you (if you have it in writing).

Did you let them know already that you wouldn't be taking any more Orders from them so that they could take advantage of you in this manner? And I do understand your reluctance to chase them further when you're in Jersey and they're in Jacksonville.

I'm all paid up with Evil . . . . and it's at 100% of what they owed me and 100% of what they were committed to pay. If they pulled a stunt like that on me, I guess I'd be making a trip down to Jacksonville very soon.
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#366916 - 02/15/11 01:45 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: robbyrob]
PMR Offline
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Registered: 05/17/10
Posts: 82
Loc: CA
I just got a request for a BPO in an area I normally don't cover as it is a bit of a drive and they wanted to know my fee and turnaround time. I responded back $100 by Sunday.

I have a feeling they won't accept my offer. Of course, I should have included "paid in advance".

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#366925 - 02/15/11 04:46 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: CentralFLbeepo]
REOGUY53 Offline
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Registered: 04/07/10
Posts: 8
Loc: USA,USA
Got my check today in the mail. I ran to the bank to deposit it before they decide they don't want me to get paid.

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#366964 - 02/16/11 04:46 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: PMR]
PA Roadkill Offline
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Posts: 2050
Loc: The Middle of the Interstate
Originally Posted By: PMR
I just got a request for a BPO in an area I normally don't cover as it is a bit of a drive and they wanted to know my fee and turnaround time. I responded back $100 by Sunday.

I have a feeling they won't accept my offer. Of course, I should have included "paid in advance".


I usually quote $250 - stops the phone calls
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#366969 - 02/16/11 05:51 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: PA Roadkill]
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Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 162
i always quote a very high fee and reasonable turn-around time.

yesterday they sent me an auto-assign, 18-hour TAT, for $45.... I called them and told them it would cost them $275 for an 18 rush order... order fell off my list

don't fall for their BS

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#366973 - 02/16/11 06:38 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: MountainBPO]
Vermont Offline
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Registered: 04/12/08
Posts: 4726
Loc: Vermont's North-East Kingdom
Originally Posted By: MountainBPO
". . . yesterday they sent me an auto-assign . . ."

I'm trying to get my head around that. I didn't think a Company like Evil Soul had such a thing as Auto-Assign . . . . and then you are allowed to negotiate? Doesn't Auto-Assign go hand-in-hand with acceptance of a Firm's Fees ?

I can't imagine a torture on this earth much worse than allowing Evil's Assignments and Fees to automatically be placed in my queue !

I have only accepted their Orders when my services are solicited by the most convincing Boiler Room Girl, and MY Fee is agreed to in writing; but I haven't been so convinced in over a year now . . . . and I am all paid up.

I'm just amazed that they're continuing to function.
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#368615 - 03/01/11 09:14 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: Vermont]
12 step 4 BPOs? Offline
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Registered: 06/27/10
Posts: 377
Loc: Land of Tree Huggers
I had a little fun with these guys. I signed up long ago and I FINALLY got an order. FINALLY! Low pay, 18 hour turn around, you know the drill. I did take the photos and I did open the form (I confess!). And then I started thinking about what jerks these guys were. So, I waited a few hours, until it was due. Then I emailed them. Told them that after reviewing their forms and looking at the information they wanted (OMGosh! The address of the listing agent for EVERY comp???) that I started googling to see what it was all about. And THEN i saw all the posts about how they dont pay and that I was unwilling to do work for them. The lady got so mad, you could feel it in her email and told me FINE, that i could believe what i wanted to read on the internet. Like it was some dirty word!!! I told her I had additional validation from friends (you guys are my friends, I am a lonely girl). So, she once again said FINE and that they would take me off the list.

This was Friday. well, yesterday (Monday), I got another email asking me to do an order. I said I would love to, but oddly enough they never got back to me.

Oh, and on the offer on Friday I said I would take it and then the next day when I went to work on it they said it was assigned to another agent and they were So sorry. I told them no, you offered it to me and they did open it up, but I bet anything they intended to allow me and the other agent to do it and just never pay me.

well, I know it was terribly juvenile to play the little game I played, but I thought I could cause them a little stress, just a little taste of what they have done to all of you.

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#368617 - 03/01/11 09:18 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: 12 step 4 BPOs?]
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Registered: 02/16/06
Posts: 2130
Loc: United States
Apparently you have a lot of time on your hands.

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#368625 - 03/01/11 10:02 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: 12 step 4 BPOs?]
CandyMan Offline
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Registered: 07/12/08
Posts: 2480
Loc: California
Paybacks can be great. The sad fact is you put yourself at their level. I play this from a different angle. When I receive a call from one of the "no pay...slow pay" companies, I just inform them of their national reputation. Have any of them tried to improve their status? NO.......We have many members that depend on BPO's as their major source of income. I have no use for any company that plays this game. You can't feed the family or put a roof over their heads with "the checks in the mail". We're in a serious recession....EVERY ORDER COUNTS........just my two cents.
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#368627 - 03/01/11 10:09 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: CandyMan]
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Registered: 02/16/06
Posts: 2130
Loc: United States
Spot on Candy--I have told them the same thing and that is all of the time I am going to invest in them. I keep my response to a minimum as any other time invested in them is keeping me away from revenue generating activity. I have UTLS requests routed straight to my junk mail as well. I have a certain amount of time for BPOs, I am not going to spend any of it on deadbeat companies.

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#368629 - 03/01/11 10:16 AM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: smg]
CandyMan Offline
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Registered: 07/12/08
Posts: 2480
Loc: California
Many months ago, I posted "I'll chase you to the gates of Hell for $20....for another $10, I'll chase you inside". I have no use for game players.
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#368687 - 03/01/11 03:17 PM Re: Evil is lurking folks!! [Re: smg]
12 step 4 BPOs? Offline
Member

Registered: 06/27/10
Posts: 377
Loc: Land of Tree Huggers
Originally Posted By: smg
Apparently you have a lot of time on your hands.


Actually, no, I don't have really any time on my hands, but every now and then I amuse myself with some random event.

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