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#357595 - 11/12/10 07:40 PM
Re: Threats, coercion, harrassment?
[Re: cinloo]
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Registered: 08/09/06
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Loc: California
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I tell those agents that I have guidelines from the lender that I must conform to. Those comp's are not in conformity with the lender's so I can't use them. If that doesn't work, I ask them to step outside as they are interfering with my work product.
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#357614 - 11/12/10 10:49 PM
Re: Threats, coercion, harrassment?
[Re: Goldenkozy]
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Registered: 02/16/06
Posts: 2130
Loc: United States
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I usually say thanks, take the comps, get in the car and just toss them on the floor. I have never even looked at them. This stuff gets as much attention as the stuff on my windshield when I come out of the store. It is a tad annoying, but I have never been threatened, coerced. If I were, I would tell them to back off. But, I do a lot of orders and at most, I get agents that want to give me comps and a copy of the contract. Thanks very much and I immediately toss it and forget about it. Never any problems with it.
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#357967 - 11/16/10 09:05 PM
Re: Threats, coercion, harrassment?
[Re: Don Price (Pine)]
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Registered: 01/26/09
Posts: 2961
Loc: Old Dominion
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I have recently refused taking any paper work for fear of the appearence of impropriety. I share my concerns in a notorious way. I used to collect and recycle the back side of the pages.
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#357997 - 11/17/10 08:06 AM
Re: Threats, coercion, harrassment?
[Re: Illinois Agent]
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Registered: 08/27/07
Posts: 519
Loc: FLORIDA
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And was it listed 20% below value, with a contract for another 10% less no doubt? I spend my life justifying why short sale list prices are not predictive of the actual value of the home, while bpo companies are still looking for the value to be less than list. Some of them still dont get the process.
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#357999 - 11/17/10 08:29 AM
Re: Threats, coercion, harrassment?
[Re: Illinois Agent]
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Registered: 01/26/09
Posts: 2961
Loc: Old Dominion
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Had a interior recently. Contact is listing agent, call agent he says he will call me back. Calls back with a name and number for someone else. I ask "Is this the home owner?" He says no and doesn't want to tell me who the person is. I ask him "Is this a short sale negotiator?" He reluctantly says yes. So I get a hold of the negotiator I finally have a time set up to get into the home with the negotiator since he needs to be there and it's not convenient for him to come out there for a couple days. I get to the house and see there is a car in the driveway and I am right on time. I ring the bell and the owner answers and tells me " I was told to not let you in until my representative gets here" and abruptly closes the door in my face. The negotiator gets there 20 minutes late and when we go into the house the negotiator says be careful the dog is mean, so I ask the owner to please keep the dog in another room because we are not allowed to have pets or people in the the pictures. The owner says No! You keep him out of the way! I refused to take any comps from the negotiator since some bpo companies are now asking us not to take anything from anyone. I dislike short sale negotiators and the ahole owners like this guy. Unbelievable. In their minds they are doing you a favor, so you better be thankful and take what you can get...unreal. Wrong in so many ways. Next time tell them you are going to sit in the car for 5 minutes until they get the bag of fleas under control and out of the picture. If they do not want to cooperate in that amount of time you will leave and report access issues to the bpo provider. I bet you would not get down the front steps before Fido was leashed.
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#358003 - 11/17/10 09:01 AM
Re: Threats, coercion, harrassment?
[Re: STEW]
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Registered: 07/22/07
Posts: 1574
Loc: PIE/SRQ corridor
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I spend my life justifying why short sale list prices are not predictive of the actual value of the home, while bpo companies are still looking for the value to be less than list. Some of them still dont get the process. I agree 100%, as I have the same problem from time to time. While I no longer sell R.E. if I did, unless the MLS remarks say that the third party lender approved of the short sale list price, I would be very hesitant to show the property to a buyer. IMO, it is hard to walk into a home and not really know what it is actually for sale for. I explain that to some of the QC people, and then light bulb goes on and they finally get it.
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#358014 - 11/17/10 10:21 AM
Re: Threats, coercion, harrassment?
[Re: Illinois Agent]
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Registered: 05/17/07
Posts: 1858
Loc: Texas
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The negotiator gets there 20 minutes late and when we go into the house the negotiator says be careful the dog is mean, so I ask the owner to please keep the dog in another room because we are not allowed to have pets or people in the the pictures. The owner says No! You keep him out of the way! That appears to be permission to kick said dog until he gets the message. bwahahaha!
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#358048 - 11/17/10 03:21 PM
Re: Threats, coercion, harrassment?
[Re: northtxbroker]
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Registered: 08/27/05
Posts: 1620
Loc: Missouri
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That appears to be permission to kick said dog until he gets the message. bwahahaha! Ahh, come on. It's not usually the DOG that needs kickin...  It seems to me that the conclusion of this thread is that any agent doing a BPO interior should insist on being able to do the inspection with NO INTERFERENCE OF ANY TYPE (verbal or via paperwork). Contact between BPO agent and point of contact should ONLY involve making the appointment for the inspection. Actually, something like the following process would work, though it is probably a pipe dream: 1) BPO agent calls point of contact and schedules inspection time. Any other conversation is strictly forbidden. 2) Point of contact is required to either provide lockbox on property or leave a key at agent's office. 3) No people are allowed to be present before, during, or after inspection and all animals are secured or removed from property ahead of time. 4)BPO agent phones point of contact when leaving the property.
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#358086 - 11/17/10 07:35 PM
Re: Threats, coercion, harrassment?
[Re: LizL]
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Registered: 02/16/06
Posts: 2130
Loc: United States
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And we can turn down all the paper comps that we want, but most of my communications for access, appts, etc is done electronically. They send me comps, contracts, etc. I do not even look at the stuff. When they prod me for what my value are going to be, I jut tell them I do not know yet. when they call after the appt, I do not answer or reply. I just ignore all of it. It used to annoy me but I just do not let it bother me anymore.
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#358094 - 11/17/10 08:11 PM
Re: Threats, coercion, harrassment?
[Re: Doin' bpose]
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Registered: 07/12/08
Posts: 2480
Loc: California
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I had a dog issue about a week or so ago. I call the listing agent for an appointment. I ask if there are any dog? She said, "yes...the owners son is staying in the property until it closes escrow. I then said, " as nobody will be home, the dog has to be contained, either caged or dog run". She called the occupant and was told dog would be in a cage. I show up at the property, ring the door bell, and wait for the dog to bark.......nothing. I then opened the door and noticed the dog cage was empty....oh, great. I slowly enter the house (leaving the front door open), looking for the dog....nothing....not a bark, whimper, or growl. I decided to take my interior shots, prior to going in back yard. While taking my pictures, I noticed large piles of dog poop....this was in every room, including the master bedroom. I'm still looking for the dog....still, nothing. Every room had the door shut and every room had large piles of dog poop. I slowly crack open the doors and hear nothing. I finally have all my interior shots completed......backyard time. The sun is shining directly at the rear of the house. I look out the windows.....no dog, but I'm blinded by the sunlight. I slowly crack open the sliding door.....there he is, just laying on the patio. He looks at me and I look at him. He slowly gets up and gets up and gets up. I think he was a cross between a Great Dane and Pit Bull....that's all I need......a 4 foot tall alligator.....lol. Well, I guess no pictures of the rear of subject. This property is currently under contract and they still have to do their walk thru. As I vacated the property, I thought to myself. " I should call the agent and alert her of the interior condition. Then I thought, "naaaaaaa, she's entitled to the same thrill I got...lol. I hope she enjoys her walk thru.
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#358097 - 11/17/10 08:21 PM
Re: Threats, coercion, harrassment?
[Re: CandyMan]
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Registered: 08/27/05
Posts: 1620
Loc: Missouri
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Ahh, Candy, you are so bad! I'm glad you escaped with no damage (how'd the bottom of your shoes make out?)
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#358099 - 11/17/10 08:28 PM
Re: Threats, coercion, harrassment?
[Re: LizL]
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Registered: 07/12/08
Posts: 2480
Loc: California
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I got my training, years ago, on how to walk in a mine field....lol
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