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#354259 - 10/11/10 06:04 PM Need some help on some vacant land
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ive got a question on some vacant land that is beside us.im wanting to try to buy it but the owner never comes around. so i went on the net and looked up the tax office and got the guys name and the address is wrong. he doesnt live at that address bc i called the people who live there so i ran a google search and cant seem to find him?anyone got any suggestions

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#354269 - 10/11/10 07:21 PM Re: Need some help on some vacant land [Re: 61ford]
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Call the Taxing Authority and ask where they mail the Tax Bill.

If the Taxes are paid up-to-date, then use that address.

Perhaps mail is being forwarded, so jot a note on the outside of the envelope asking the Post Office to kindly "Please Forward"
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#355536 - 10/24/10 09:25 PM Re: Need some help on some vacant land [Re: Vermont]
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In this case, I would contact a local real estate broker as well. He or she can make some calls, do some searching online and on the MLS, to find if that parcel had ever been listed.

They can also search the tax records for you. Thanks!
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#356716 - 11/04/10 08:56 PM Re: Need some help on some vacant land [Re: Ryan O'Neill]
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Like Vermont said, your best bet here is trying to find out where taxes are being sent. If somebody is paying the taxes, somebody is receiving mail at that address. On the other side, if the taxes are unpaid then there may be opportunity to pick up the property from the state or loan-issuing bank at a great price!
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#361094 - 12/18/10 07:18 PM Re: Need some help on some vacant land [Re: Kristi Leak]
61ford Offline
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well i did some more digging and found a copy of his warranty deed but guess what no address listed on the warranty deed to help track him down i have an uncle who is a real estate agent and he told me he uses the same way to find ppl property data page the taxes has not been paid on them the past two years

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#361103 - 12/18/10 09:31 PM Re: Need some help on some vacant land [Re: 61ford]
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Use the tax system to look up other properties in his name and one might show a number or an updated address.

He might not have updated that one address as he was letting it go.

If the property was bought with an corp or llc you can go to the secretary of state online and look up the corp filing papers which usually has an address and phone number.Sometimes they use an attorney or title company to file and you can call them and get contact info.

Many other ways to check with post office and see if a new address was given for forwarding mail.

You can find them you just have to dig some more.

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#361125 - 12/19/10 08:33 AM Re: Need some help on some vacant land [Re: 61ford]
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Originally Posted By: 61ford
". . . well i did some more digging and found a copy of his warranty deed but guess what no address listed on the warranty deed . . ."

Warranty Deeds will typically only identify the Buyer by his City/Town/County and State of Residence (and Country for Aliens). To get a specific mailing address, you'll have to look for the Property Transfer Tax Return which would have been filed at the same time as that Warranty Deed (which does have a DATE). The PTTRs should be readily accessible and organized chronologically close by to where you found the Deed recorded, and it will contain the detailed address of both the Buyer and Seller (at the time of that Transaction).
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#361784 - 12/26/10 01:17 PM Re: Need some help on some vacant land [Re: Vermont]
61ford Offline
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vermont so would i have to go to the courthouse to find a property transfer tax return or is there somewhere i can find it on the net? i googled it and came up with nothing i got a copy of the deed off of a free demo at a title search website

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#361785 - 12/26/10 02:02 PM Re: Need some help on some vacant land [Re: 61ford]
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I think that would be a safe bet . . . . just make sure that you have the correct County for the Township in which the property is located, but making a call ahead to your State's Tax Department to verify where these records are located in Tennessee would also be a worthwhile activity. Have the "Date" of the Deed handy when you call.

I just checked to verify that Tennessee is among the 35 States (plus Washington D.C.) which impose a Transfer Tax . . . . and it is. Tennessee even privileges itself by being one of the very few States that imposes an additional mortgage tax of $.115 per $100 of indebtedness in excess of $2,000 on top of the $.37 per $100 of consideration that it collects.

Here's a link to a handy chart prepared by the Federation of Tax Administrators (FTA) that compares these sources of revenue among the different States and Commonwealths, and tells you how to calculate the Tax:

FTA Transfer Tax Comparison Table

It appears that this 2006 Chart is still the most recent publication of this FTA Table, so beware that your rates could have been updated since then. Still, in this time of State Budgetary Shortfalls, you can rest pretty much assured that none of the States will have given up this lucrative source of revenue; and they must keep a record of who paid such Transfer Taxes, and is therefore eligible for deducting them. Good Luck.
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#363728 - 01/16/11 02:55 PM Re: Need some help on some vacant land [Re: Vermont]
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Another possibility is to go back to the Town Office and/or see if there is a state grand list - Vermont has the VT Grand List on line - one issue, I have found when I am doing research such as this, specifically online, instead of putting this person's name as owner, input the name as second owner and see if it comes up...alternatively, you might want to see if there is a QCD in the Town Land Records and/or perhaps there was a name change?

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