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#350954 - 09/10/10 09:51 AM It's just bad business and I told them about it!!
danni Offline
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So I started receiving orders from an old not so popular company again. I got an order last night 10pm that is due today at 3pm with a pay rate for a 48 hr turn around time! WHAT? And this is not the first one. So I accepted it, but sent an email that advised if they wanted this today it is a RUSH and they will need to pay accordingly, if not I'll have it for them tomorrow. Get a call this morning asking if I will have it done. I restated what I put in the email. She says I'll have to run it by management and call you back. She calls back and says "sorry we have way too many agents in your area to pay you that amount" I tell her fine, have a nice day. I sent the company an email to let them know how poor their business practices are and how they rate compared to others. I'll probably get booted out their little system, but I'm sick of this crap.

Thanks for reading
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#350955 - 09/10/10 09:56 AM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: danni]
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pro-teck?

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#350957 - 09/10/10 10:04 AM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: sacbroker]
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You won't get booted. They'll assign you some work again in a few days with the same fee, same turnaround time. They may have a lot of agents in your area but how many of them actually still work for them?

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#350966 - 09/10/10 11:13 AM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: danni]
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I'd make a point of NOT "accepting" anything until agreement is reached on the Terms, Conditions, Timing and Fee.

It's like a Seller on a P&S accepting the Offer and signing; but then later saying he wants to discuss the Price or Closing Date. Once it's a Contract, it's too late to bargain.

I'd rather just pass on all of these until they reflect Terms and Conditions that I feel comfortable with accepting, and then I never have to come asking after the fact begging, hat in hand, for them to make it better for me. Once I've accepted, it's too late to bargain.
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#350995 - 09/10/10 03:42 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: Vermont]
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Oh I'd never beg. That's why I told her ok, thanks bye. I put in the email to them that I have my fees in their little contract page, and asked what's the point of having that if they are not going to abide by it. Since I sent the email this morning I've gotten 3 with my terms. Maybe it's a fluke but we'll see.
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#351050 - 09/11/10 03:35 AM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: danni]
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I'm guessing Fi-serv. I've told them the same thing and they keep coming back! Rarely do they agree to my contracted price. Sometimes they'll up it to $40. I turn those down usually too unless I'm already going that direction.
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#351084 - 09/11/10 09:07 AM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: Shannon]
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Why not tell us whjo the provider is? I have never understood why these posts are created and the company name is not posted. I can not see any reson to not post who it is when we are discussing this stuff...

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#351087 - 09/11/10 09:38 AM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: smg]
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Originally Posted By: smg
I can not see any reason to not post who it is when we are discussing this stuff...
I think it's the fear that there might be some sort of punitive repercussion coming from the Mill . . . . but who can argue with the truth ? We're already being punished for working with them.
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#351095 - 09/11/10 10:11 AM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: Vermont]
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seriously? Why are we afraid of the mills? I told OLD REPUBLIC that they can shove there PIA POS $45 interior orders where the sun doesn't shine. They sent me an order an hour later, no joke. I told Pro-Teck I wanted $25 to review an order for the second time due to the ridiculous nature of the request. They quickly cleared the order. I have no problem telling companies that they are a joke when they only want to pay $35-40 for a drive by. So if anyone from ORDMS, or Pro-teck is reading this- You suck.

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#351096 - 09/11/10 10:13 AM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: sacbroker]
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LOL - Now tell us how you really feel??? - LOL smile

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#351106 - 09/11/10 01:13 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: super realtor]
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I flat out told MDA that their fees suck about two months ago. I got tired of their low fee solicitations. Ever since doing that they have not sent me any more offers. I really don't care, but I don't think people should assume that you can tell these mills anything you want without possible consequences. With MDA it did matter and I suppose I have burned that bridge. So just be careful, that's all I am saying.
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#351107 - 09/11/10 01:54 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: Brad - W4BJM]
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Danni, I had the same issue with ServicleLink and Powerlink. Wouldn't honor my contracted fees. They did a few times while on auto assign, but way too many out of area orders came in.

Now they won't budge on their price. They must be getting awfully good work for $45, but then why call me?

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#351108 - 09/11/10 01:56 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: Vermont]
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Originally Posted By: smg
Why not tell us whjo the provider is? I have never understood why these posts are created and the company name is not posted. I can not see any reson to not post who it is when we are discussing this stuff...



Originally Posted By: Vermont
Originally Posted By: smg
I can not see any reason to not post who it is when we are discussing this stuff...
I think it's the fear that there might be some sort of punitive repercussion coming from the Mill . . . . but who can argue with the truth ? We're already being punished for working with them.


If you post your real name, then your cover is blown. That is why it pays to remain anonymous and use a screen name.

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#351109 - 09/11/10 01:59 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: Brad - W4BJM]
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With many of the Mills, the Boiler Room Girls who call to place the Orders don't know what our minimum Fee is . . . . and that's by design. I think they are compensated as a function of how little they can get the Order done for, so they are encouraged to bargain; the lower our Fee, the higher their pay.

I think I ceased being an active Vendor for eML because I told them that I'm tired of this silly bargaining. They go on a fishing expedition to see how little they can get an Order placed for, and then have the guts enough to come back around for a second session of negotiations to see if you'll budge. I've never budged.

It's like "a couple of hours ago you agreed to do this here Order for us by Tuesday IF we'd pay you $XX. Could you do it by Wednesday if we paid you just $YY? We already have someone who is willing to do by Wednesday it for $ZZ." Couldn't you at least match that? NO! Go use your Friend who'll work for less !

I had to put a stop to the mindless re-evaluation of my schedule and travel itinerary to repeatedly see when I could fit it in . . . . but I NEVER compromise on my Fees . . . . they've been the same since the mid 90's and I see no reason to start altering them for any one Firm. You give them just $5.00 once and then the next time it'll be $10.00 or $15.00 . . . . and down that slippery slope you go.

I like the firms like FINITI, MGIC and SLS in that respect . . . . they don't even bother calling unless they're prepared to pay my Fee; so we don't have to waste time doing that negotiation dance over money.
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#351110 - 09/11/10 02:03 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: Vermont]
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I don't mind negotiating if the company is willing to. In fact, I like it.
Problem is,some companies fees are non negotiable.

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#351113 - 09/11/10 02:52 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: Traveler]
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Y'know, if I think a company sucks, I simply call them up and tell them to take my name off their agent list. smile . . . But then again, that's the way I feel about working. If I don't like what I'm doing, I need to find another company -- or another line of work. Even in a bad economy, I have choices.
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#351117 - 09/11/10 05:12 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: barb43]
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Good to see fellow agents are standing up to these low paying folks....Would be great if everyone would refuse the fee's.

I still get golden invites from the New England folks, months after I quit accepting there low fee's. Apparently I, like others am just an agent number to them and they havent noticed that I ignore there emails.

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#351122 - 09/11/10 05:54 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: REO driven]
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Originally Posted By: HELP-HELP-HELPR

I still get golden invites from the New England folks, months after I quit accepting there low fee's. Apparently I, like others am just an agent number to them and they havent noticed that I ignore there emails.


Again, why not name the company? If they suck, pay low and you are not wanting to work for them, why refer to them as "The New England Folks"? Especially in this case when you have an anonymous screen name....I have absolutely no problem naming milss that I work for. If they have warts, best for my peers to know who they are...skip the clues and riddles and just name the company...


Edited by smg (09/11/10 05:54 PM)

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#351140 - 09/11/10 10:19 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: smg]
Brad - W4BJM Offline
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Originally Posted By: smg
Again, why not name the company? If they suck, pay low and you are not wanting to work for them, why refer to them as "The New England Folks"? Especially in this case when you have an anonymous screen name


I agree SMG

Proteck has low fees and anyone can sign up with them at http://www.protk.com/public/join-our-network/

Others worth mentioning are.

http://www.mdasolutions.com/default/vendors/joinournetwork.aspx

http://www.insidevaluation.com/ContactUs.aspx

http://www.oldrepublicdefault.com/Valuation.aspx

http://www.isgn.com/ContactUs/contact.htm

https://www.rrreview.com/company/company_general_info.aspx

And also feel free to try out:

http://brokerpriceopinion.com/Brochure/Join/

https://www.evalonline.com/signup/signup.php

https://extranet.lrescorp.com/vreg/index...DD3CFB751476A89

http://www.gobpo.com/index.php?pageid=37

Here ya go noobies, go for it! You can't ever say no one on the message board never gave you any "freebies"
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#351156 - 09/12/10 12:49 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: smg]
danni Offline
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Loc: Detroit, MI
Originally Posted By: smg
Originally Posted By: HELP-HELP-HELPR

I still get golden invites from the New England folks, months after I quit accepting there low fee's. Apparently I, like others am just an agent number to them and they havent noticed that I ignore there emails.


Again, why not name the company? If they suck, pay low and you are not wanting to work for them, why refer to them as "The New England Folks"? Especially in this case when you have an anonymous screen name....I have absolutely no problem naming milss that I work for. If they have warts, best for my peers to know who they are...skip the clues and riddles and just name the company...



Gee Whiz guys calm down. I only did not post it because I really did not think it made that big of a difference. The post was simply to state that the company (Eval since everyone is getting their drawers in a bunch) like many others is running good agents into the ground with their ridiculous fees and expectations, and losing a lot of good agents as well. That was my point and I am sure there are others feeling the same way. crazy

Some agents may not have the same issues that one agent has with a particular company. There are a lot of companies that I see agents having a hard time with that I have no problems with at all and vice versa.

Just my observation and 2 cents.


Edited by danni (09/12/10 12:51 PM)
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#351157 - 09/12/10 01:15 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: danni]
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Actually the bad business practice is accepting the order and then negotiating the price. With that said you get what you deserve when working with that company!
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#351168 - 09/12/10 07:30 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: cleonard]
danni Offline
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Loc: Detroit, MI
Originally Posted By: cleonard
Actually the bad business practice is accepting the order and then negotiating the price. With that said you get what you deserve when working with that company!


Thank you for your feedback! However, what I did was accept with the information included in the acceptance email as there was no way to contact anyone direct at the time it was assigned! Also, in a previous post I mentioned I worked with this company before and had no issues with getting paid at all. While I realize times have changed and many agents have issues with them I can only trust my own experiences with them at this time. Now if I have the same problems then that's my too bad, but at least then I have my OWN experience to base my decision on. As I've mentioned there are alot of companies agents put on the "bad" list that I have no issues with and vice versa. Thanks again for everyones input!!


Edited by danni (09/13/10 07:48 AM)
Edit Reason: ooooppps!!
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#351258 - 09/13/10 03:52 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: Traveler]
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The main issue is that they have no communication between any of their agencies or agents. If that person and their manager that you spoke to ban you from their personal black book, then the agent in the next booth will call you up the next day as if nothing happened. This is the same story that you get when you try to deal with them concerning documents. One hand doesn't know what the other is doing.
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#352283 - 09/24/10 08:46 AM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: Traveler]
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HEY PRO-TECK------ SUCK IT! sorry had to get that off of my chest.

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#355318 - 10/21/10 04:53 PM Re: It's just bad business and I told them about it!! [Re: sacbroker]
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I never had a problem with Pro Teck yes it takes 45 days to get paid and the qc can be a bit troubling ,but I'm getting orders from them for years and never got stffed if you don't like the fee dont accept it it's that simple every cpmpany has some problems I guess ..Thank God for the orders

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