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#330548 - 03/10/10 01:37 PM "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'"
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Here we go again. Excerpt:

“We strongly believe continuing to allow ‘broker price opinions’ in the property valuation component will not adequately protect the public interest (consumer, borrowers, etc.) or the interests of the various parties to the loan (lenders, loan servicers, etc.) and is likely to exacerbate mortgage fraud,” the appraiser organizations said in their letter to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner.


http://www.floridarealtors.org/NewsAndEvents/article.cfm?id=235651


Edited by FL_Agent (03/10/10 01:49 PM)
Edit Reason: additional info

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#330558 - 03/10/10 02:17 PM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: FL_Agent]
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I fixed it.

Quote:

"We strongly believe continuing to allow "broker price opinions" in the property valuation component will not adequately protect the appraisal industry, our fees, or the interests of the various parties to the loan and is likely to exacerbate mortgage fraud," the appraiser organization said in their letter to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner.


Anytime someone uses the words "public interest", "public welfare", or "greater good" it raises a red flag. It's about them and their personal interest, the least they can do is be honest about it.

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#330562 - 03/10/10 02:34 PM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: FL_Agent]
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As long as the banks want BPOs to be used, I feel the niche is secure. They are the ones with money to influence Washington, not the AI. AI can boo hoo hoo all they want; BPOs are an inexpensive alternative to fee appraisals. Just my $0.02
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#330575 - 03/10/10 03:23 PM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: Brad - W4BJM]
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I responded on an appraiser on one of our threads (I do not remember which one) that "our lobbyists can beat up your lobbyists". smile
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#330604 - 03/10/10 06:36 PM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: Grampa]
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The appraisal institute is implying mortgage fraud by brokers to a tax cheat?

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#330609 - 03/10/10 07:06 PM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: Traveler]
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Wouldn't it be nice if NAR advocated for us in this way! I supposed we should feel fortunate that they arnt one of the sponsoring groups of this push or are they?
The NAR approved trainer that I took the lame certified shortsale foreclosure course from stated that Realtors who do BPO's produce inaccurate values which are thrown together in a few minutes due to the low rate of payment. Attempted to redirect him a bit but he wasnt listening. He laughed at Realtors doing BPO's for free and low rates thinking they were going to get listings!
He did the big pitch for how bad the appraiser banks are working and how we all need to lobby against the changes. He asked how many in the room has lost a deal cause of the changes and no one commented. it's happening..it's happening everywhere he said..havnt seen it
Not worried about this groups push on Washington-obviously self serving..like Brad said..banks support the BPO system..and banks rule

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#330620 - 03/10/10 08:34 PM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: STEW]
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"... broker price opinions... likely to exacerbate mortgage fraud..." Seriously?? BPO's dont lead to fraud any more than appraisals do. Heck, utilizing their logic, one could make the argument that since a significant portion of fraudulent mortgages had bonafide appraisals in file, that the use of Appraisers is conducive to mortgage fraud. See? It's silly and i dont buy the argument either way. It's not the product, it's not BPO vs appraisal. It's "honest conscientious guy" vs "my-ethics-can-be-bought-guy". Same as it ever was...
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#330655 - 03/11/10 05:01 AM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: SB Cardinal]
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The banks would never:
1. Pay the price for an appraisal
2. Wait the week to 10 days it's taking to get appraisals back
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#331248 - 03/15/10 09:50 PM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: PA Roadkill]
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yay

NAR ISSUED AN OUTSTANDING LETTER IN SUPPORT OF BPOS IN HAFA. READ TODAY'S WASHINGTON REPORT (NAR) SPOT ON RESPONSE TO THE APPRAISAL CAMPAIGN!
WE ALL NEED TO EMAIL NAR..THEY GOT IT RIGHT! I DO PAY MY DUES FOR A REASON!!

http://www.realtor.org/wps/wcm/connect/1...ES&CACHEID=

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#331295 - 03/16/10 10:19 AM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: Grampa]
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Originally Posted By: Grampa
I responded on an appraiser on one of our threads (I do not remember which one) that "our lobbyists can beat up your lobbyists". smile


The only problem though is our lobbyist have been very slow to react. The NAR is just now starting to send in the guns.

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#331310 - 03/16/10 12:36 PM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: PA Roadkill]
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Originally Posted By: PA Roadkill
The banks would never:
1. Pay the price for an appraisal
2. Wait the week to 10 days it's taking to get appraisals back



^ This
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#331312 - 03/16/10 12:52 PM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: Artiste]
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I would venture a guess if most **R members knew how N** was structured and what it takes to motivate them to respond to our issues - many would stop paying dues.

If *A* responds to something, it is because there has been overwhelming voices telling them to do so, not because they weren't aware of the problem when they could have preempted the problem, but because of their total lack of involvement in the problem finally ticked off enough people that they needed a little grease to quite the squeaky wheels.

If you're a franchise player - you're in pretty good hands - if not - you need strong legs to make it up the hill wink

But I am glad that *** finally took a position - and I am grateful to all the people it took to get them to do so.

Expect to pay the surcharge for this soon - lol
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#331318 - 03/16/10 01:44 PM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: Don Price (Pine)]
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Originally Posted By: Pine
I would venture a guess if most **R members knew how N** was structured and what it takes to motivate them to respond to our issues - many would stop paying dues.

If *A* responds to something, it is because there has been overwhelming voices telling them to do so, not because they weren't aware of the problem when they could have preempted the problem, but because of their total lack of involvement in the problem finally ticked off enough people that they needed a little grease to quite the squeaky wheels.

If you're a franchise player - you're in pretty good hands - if not - you need strong legs to make it up the hill wink

But I am glad that *** finally took a position - and I am grateful to all the people it took to get them to do so.

Expect to pay the surcharge for this soon - lol


Excellent and insightful post, Pine. Your point has other supportive evidence, too; one being the SFR course discussed on another thread. N** was late to that party, also. And when they finally got there, all they brought was lip service.

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#331378 - 03/16/10 09:54 PM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: STEW]
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Emailed the contact on the letter expressing thanks for the support and got a personal email thanking me for the kind words..
I'm sure every one of the 40,000 appraiser members contacted him with a different viewpoint.

Maybe someone within NAR is actually one of us! Anyways, I take back all those negative comments I previously posted.

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#331380 - 03/16/10 10:03 PM Re: "Appraisal Institute opposes plan for 'short sales'" [Re: STEW]
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Mortgage fraud is distorting the market with an 8000 tax credit.
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