Hoss - you were so gracious to give me your phone number but I have a question. If I do decide to call you will it really be you or will it be an actor role playing as you ? I know how much you like for people to role play as live calls.

Dont you get "coaching" from the brokerage you work for? I dont understand the concept of paying someone money to go learn something you should be getting from your brokerage.

We're independent contractors. While it would be in the brokerage's best interest to have a team of highly motivated well trained agents, most brokers do not go above and beyond. I'm blessed to be at such an office, I have no need to pay for coaching; my broker has tons of CDs, DVDs, and books that I can borrow plus my mentor is always available if I need a pep talk.
Not everyone has that. Sad but true.

Your brokerage provides you with brokerage services and maybe some basic training for new agents. The real estate field is very competitive and the licensing process doesn't not train new agents in the skills required to be a successful agent.

There is an entire industry that has developed that promises to coach & train real estate agents to be successful. In many cases this coaching amounts to nothing more than being another hand in your pocket promoting the latest gimick. However there are some quality programs out there but as a new agent you need to be careful about what you spend your money on.

I think this form thread has passed it's judgement on this program.

Perky, Thats how the brokerage I will be working for works also. Since I am new and this is the only brokerage I have any dealings with, I just asumed that they all worked that way. We have sales meetings and training sessions twice a month. Im not even licensed yet but I have attended the sales and training meetings for about 3 months now.

No, not all brokerages are like that. Many are just "You're on your own kid..." and that's that...

I bet Hoss is glad he brought this thread back from the dead. HaHa Brutal.

Thanks Perky! I appreciate the challenge. Now can we discuss topics that make us better agents?

I don't chime in often, but I feel the need to here.

I met Hoss last year when my Brokerage allowed him to come in and "pitch" his crap. I say crap, because that's precisely what it is. He is an individual that preys on those agents that are looking for the "golden egg", a true slime ball. In fact, he "gave" us "10 Free Live Calls" to prove his machismo and I would put money on the fact that every one of them was done with a coworker.

Here's my train of thought. If one is so damn successful in real estate, why/when would someone have the time to put their business down to travel the country and sell snake oil?

That being said, there was a poor sap in my office that bought it and says he feels that he was stolen from. He was a new agent hurting for business, used all Hoss's techniques and never made a dime.

There are good programs out there, you just need to do a little research. Bart is right in the sense that this business is all about practice. You HAVE to be a salesperson or you will fail. Train, Practice and Sell everyday and you'll be successful.

BTW, if Hoss takes a second look... Don't try to argue over the internet about someone calling your spouse a low life. It just makes you look stupid since we all know that nothing will ever come of it.

PLUS, having seen you in person, I can almost guarantee that even a girl can make you look silly if you got in a fight...

Wow. It appears the angry mob has spoken and has clearly condemned this line of "coaching".

But dont worry, Hoss. I wont call your wife a low life again.

Quote from the forum rules that govern this forum:

"*Please Note: Attacking a person's ideas is what is done in any exchange of ideas or debate and is perfectly acceptable. You can disagree with a person by arguing ideas. Attacking the person though is not acceptable - you do not win a debate by calling someone names and attempting to diminish them as a person."

I don't understand why this thread is allowed to continue.

This rule is never enforced and name calling is the norm.

In fact I have been chastised for calling out the name callers.

Have you noticed how quiet the forum has become?

I dont know anything about Hoss, but I also dont know anything about the majority of posters in this thread. Therefore, I dont believe either until I see it first hand.

I think there are alot more factors at play in real estate and trying to win over a potential client, be it buyer or seller, than there are in someone coaching you to be a great golfer or basketball player. In sports, you've got to have the natural "knack" to begin with in physical skills and ability to strengthen those skills (physically and mentally) to win, otherwise everyone would be a great sports player if they were just coached.

Recently a KW agent came to town regarding how to Crush Short Sales or Be Crushed. I challenged him on it to begin with as far as was he legit? Seems if it was a legit thing, my realtors' association would have sponsored it. He sponsored himself. There weren't any handouts, no "scripts" nothing. Whether his "class" was worthwhile or not, I didn't attend (and pay in advance via internet via charge card) the $79 fee to attend. As far as I was concerned, it looked like a scam and I called the convention center to see if it was an actual person. But, I will agree that KW comes up with all kinds of ways to get your attention and your money.

Everyone's out to sell everyone something. I've been in this business for 9 years and discovered the first year - everybody's trying to sell you something. I agree, if someone is doing sooo well in real estate - why aren't they still doing it? Most upsetting is when someone says they did 365 transactions last year - and then you find out they have a team of 20 who did 20 million in transactions which averages to $1m for each agent - no biggie there - just be honest saying it's a team instead of advertising how "I' did 20 million in transactions last year. Some people who have been quoted or interviewed or testified about a program or coach - I search out their name on the internet first to see if they are an agent and then I email them. Out of probably 6 emails, only 1 person ever responded. If you're on the other side of the U.S. and I'm not threat to you business-wise and what you're "advertising" is really such a wonderful thing - why wouldn't one respond back? I guess they're too busy with all the new business they have, eh?