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#311663 - 10/30/09 07:48 AM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
[Re: super realtor]
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Super realtor is so right!! 5 years ago the debates were not just debates it was downright rude and fighting. This is nothing compared to what it used to be. I was involved in many of these fights because if someone did not like what I said there was not just a mere comment made it would be a rude just outrageous comments and it turned into insults and fighting which was total non-sense. It has gotten better..this is child's play compared to what it used to be like on here!!
This is a forum where people speak their mind but in our line of work with the BPO's and REO's we need to tend to stick together instead of trying to bash every comment made. You can speak your mind and if people don't like it that's fine but when it comes to the fighting and insults like it used to be it got rough.
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#311671 - 10/30/09 09:25 AM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
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Just so everyone knows, it was never my intention to "run her off", but toward the end she did not appear to me as being respectful to us agents. I still think that her motive was as a PR ambassador for MSV, and again calling her job duties as a QCer being equally comparable to what we do is just not accurate. I just simply think that an hourly employee with or without incentives cannot 100% relate to people who have their fees frequently reduced, work load increased, all with occurring their own expenses not to mention their own health care. I guess it all boils down to her being on this MB with an agenda, with us being on here for completly different reasons. Brad--I usually agree with your posts, but I have to disagree with this one. Of course she was here as a PR ambassador. As others have mentioned, I would welcome other companies to participate on the forum. They just have to understand that they are entering our world on our terms--which I think MSVJ typically did. As far as a QCer's job being similar to ours--it is. They have to understand what makes a good comp, what issues are in our areas, what areas are hard to comp, etc. Do they have as much specific knowledge as we do in our areas? No, but they do have a general knowledge, which is comparable, of how to complete BPOs. Or, at least they should. As far as the pay issues, we have the possibility of accepting reduced pay. Hourly employees go to no pay when there are cuts. I would rather be in our shoes--at least we have the choice. And, let's not kid ourselves about the agenda. We ALL have an agenda here. Whether it is PR or wanting to improve our business, get new clients, etc., we are all here with an agenda.
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#311675 - 10/30/09 09:51 AM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
[Re: northtxbroker]
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Just so everyone knows, it was never my intention to "run her off", but toward the end she did not appear to me as being respectful to us agents. I still think that her motive was as a PR ambassador for MSV, and again calling her job duties as a QCer being equally comparable to what we do is just not accurate. I just simply think that an hourly employee with or without incentives cannot 100% relate to people who have their fees frequently reduced, work load increased, all with occurring their own expenses not to mention their own health care. I guess it all boils down to her being on this MB with an agenda, with us being on here for completly different reasons. Brad--I usually agree with your posts, but I have to disagree with this one. Of course she was here as a PR ambassador. As others have mentioned, I would welcome other companies to participate on the forum. They just have to understand that they are entering our world on our terms--which I think MSVJ typically did. As far as a QCer's job being similar to ours--it is. They have to understand what makes a good comp, what issues are in our areas, what areas are hard to comp, etc. Do they have as much specific knowledge as we do in our areas? No, but they do have a general knowledge, which is comparable, of how to complete BPOs. Or, at least they should. As far as the pay issues, we have the possibility of accepting reduced pay. Hourly employees go to no pay when there are cuts. I would rather be in our shoes--at least we have the choice. And, let's not kid ourselves about the agenda. We ALL have an agenda here. Whether it is PR or wanting to improve our business, get new clients, etc., we are all here with an agenda. My only agenda is waiting for Real Estate Punk to come back. MSVJ doesnt need to be here. Its not important to her income for her to be here. Basically, shes come here to get info, talk with agents, etc. To say that since she doesnt DO BPOs she shouldnt be here is just dumb. I guarantee that if the head of the 5 Star conference showed up here, we would have a bunch of butt kissing going on, even tho he/she doesnt do BPOs. Just bc Mainstreet is a BPO Mill with fairly low pay to some of your standards doesnt mean shes not wanted here. Im not a heavy MSV worker, but I appreciate when anyone who doesnt HAVE to be here comes here to chat it up.
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#311676 - 10/30/09 10:13 AM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
[Re: King of Internet]
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My only agenda is waiting for Real Estate Punk to come back.
LOL! I just checked in on him, he's still active in our MLS. He's hanging in there. I thought MSVJ's contributions were valuable, even though I do very little work for them and I don't like some....okay most of their policies. We have to communicate with MSVJ or people like here on an almost daily basis. Any insight I can get it valuable, even if she doesn't work for the same company. As she has stated, she worked for another company prior to MSV and could be working for another later. If it happens to be your big provider, wouldn't that be valuable information?
I guarantee that if the head of the 5 Star conference showed up here, we would have a bunch of butt kissing going on, even tho he/she doesnt do BPOs.
Agreed. Other representatives have been on this board and I recall seeing some major bk going on. I wasn't very active when she stopped posting, but as I recall there was Val from AVM who at any given time was being pestered for work from agents.
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#311680 - 10/30/09 10:42 AM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
[Re: Crazy 2]
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I totally agree.
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#311683 - 10/30/09 10:51 AM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
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#311686 - 10/30/09 11:29 AM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
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I have always liked that hat in your avatar Grampa, but never taken the time to say so.
Nice hat.
And Ditty..How do you do? Hope you have a good weekend? And give the dog a scratch behind the ear for all of us.
Did anyone else get a Single Source request similar to those discussed earlier in this thread. I sent mine in, added some new info.-that makes 4.
I wonder if it is having an impact?
Edited by Doin' bpose (10/30/09 11:38 AM)
Edit Reason: added thought
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#311689 - 10/30/09 11:51 AM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
[Re: Doin' bpose]
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I received several of the letters and sent an email each time.
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#311693 - 10/30/09 12:06 PM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
[Re: Doin' bpose]
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I have always liked that hat in your avatar Grampa, but never taken the time to say so.
Nice hat.
And Ditty..How do you do? Hope you have a good weekend? And give the dog a scratch behind the ear for all of us.
Did anyone else get a Single Source request similar to those discussed earlier in this thread. I sent mine in, added some new info.-that makes 4.
I wonder if it is having an impact? I wonder if it is too. Very possible after receiving about 1000 of these duplicat letters that they set up a filter and have them rolling to junk mail. MAn, I hope not.
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#311700 - 10/30/09 01:41 PM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
[Re: Doin' bpose]
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Doin'bpose, Thank You, my grandchildren got me the same hat and it seems to suit me. I wear it when I am doing REO market analysis work. (and obviously when they are visiting) I do not have paid BPOs as part of our business plan. Just the ones needed to get REO listings. I admire those who have made BPOs their livelyhood as I know it is a LOT of work. With that in mind I have always appreciated ~J's posts as they help me on the REO BPO side. Just the little things mentioned by her have made me better at doing my job. I hope she continues to post. Even though I do not do the mass BPO thing I did click the link and send the message as I feel that it is of great value as all of our REOs get a second BPO and I would rather have an agent who understands what is going on today to back up my valuation than an appraiser who does not show property and is tied to info that could be as much as 9 month old (list to Pending to Sold that closed 6 months ago). Good luck to you all. 
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#311711 - 10/30/09 03:25 PM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
[Re: CanDo]
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Of Course!!! Thing one and Thing two are my favorites!
I responded to several of the letter links and composed my own e-mail as well. I hope all this has some impact.
Am I the only one thinking that this was way overblown and that much of the comments made were tongue-in-cheek? I thought it was good natured ribbing?
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#311712 - 10/30/09 03:35 PM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
[Re: MontyC21]
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Pro tk sent out the email about it today (letter to NAR)
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#311715 - 10/30/09 04:06 PM
Re: NAR call to action on BPOs
[Re: burlingtonncre]
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Pro tk sent out the email about it today (letter to NAR) I just saw mine and sent the email. I changed the subject line some and added some fresh comments about me, as suggested by Pinehurst. I think it is my 5th. I am adding the words, Please act on my behalf.
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