Dean,

when i went to re class, my teacher told us this and told us that. she knew how to teach us how to pass a test. she read almost verbatum, what the book said. we thought she was mrs. real estate. she had been in the business for over 15 years. funny thing is that about a year after i got out of re shcool, just out of quoriousity, i looked her up.. at that time, i had done more than she had done. she might be able to quote more verbatum than i will ever be able to quote, but when it comes to interpretation in a practical sense, i would put her in the dirt.

i can tell you this. i have spoken to re attorneys on certain issues (because i do a lot of marketing and self branding and promotion) and asked one of my friends who sits on the board at the commission the same questions that i asked to the attorneys and gotten different answers.

just because you spoke about it in re class does not mean it to be accurate if hte person telling you is wrong.

you absolutley can telemarket without a license! you are not selling re nor negotaiting re. you are setting up appointments for a licensed agent and that is legal.

Are you sure there's no affiliate status available? Most boards I've seen sell affiliate status for appraisers and licensees from other boards. I know you don't have to be a broker or associated with a broker to get access to my local MLS, in fact you don't even need to be licensed.

if he is an assistant to a licensed agent, he can get access to the mls and have his own legitimate log on id.

Well if he's going about this in such a convoluted way then his entire business is really a sham. Why not have his own license and a broker and do it legit, rather than try to come up with some scheme to stay under the radar?

Could it be that he does some shady things perhaps and no broker would want to go near him?

Or could it be that he doesn't want to pay unnecessary fees to be "legit"? That's the case with me. Why pay when I don't have to?

But this is someone who would laugh at 50,000 fines?

Come on you have to admit this whole thing is nuts. You really think a guy who makes millions of dollars a year is going to be balk at paying a few hundred dollars in fees in order to be legal?

It's the principal of the thing. WHY pay? It would have zero effect on my business either way, so what's the point?

It would have a big hefty effect on his business if he gets caught doing real estate activity without being properly licensed!

Weren't you just complaining at me for "assuming too much" about YOU? Now you're doing the same about him.

I listened to the interview with Mike Ferry. Candelario claims he sets an average of 8 appointments each day. Each seller is given 5 minutes. He tells them either they can list with him, not list with him, or he may decide not to list them. He also states that he has them sign the listing contract and after that he turns them over to an assistant. If he is not working under a broker, he is definitely operating illegally. No ifs, ands or buts. From his own story, he is not working his listings as an investor.

Unless someone can document the sales of Candelario, I'd say most of the hype about him is made up. He claims to double-end every single deal, and not a single property is listed in the MLS. Sounds like b.s. to me. You mean not a single seller would insist on their home being in the MLS? This is perhaps a nice cover story for why his sales cannot be documented. If he was truly a legend with the accomplishments attributed to him, there would be plenty of local write-ups in the press. But a Internet search doesn't turn up a single one.

If the Ferry-Tale of Froy motivates some people to push themselves to new accomplishments, maybe there is some good out of it. But as for the accomplishments of the real Froy, I don't think they would measure up to the Tale.

To join the MLS in his area he would need to be employed under a designated Broker. An appraiser may join, but under their appraisal company, and he is not a licensed appraiser.

In order to join a cooperating board, your broker MUST join too.

No, actually, I'm being criticized for not believing all the crap online about him. And everyone is "assuming" he does this or does that because all the talk here is "Maybe he's in investor" or "Maybe he just doesn't want to pay the fees" or "Maybe this" or "Maybe that."

The only concrete evidence we have of anything is that single license on the Cali DRE that is NOT associated with any broker, he does not have a broker license, only a salesperson license...

The only evidence given here shows that he's probably operating illegally. The "proof" we've had is all heresay and one single interview that basically tells us he operates as a normal agent.

Yet if he does operate as an agent, not as an assistant to an agent - then he is doing it illegally.

My comments are all based on what has been said here in this thread, what has been found (the license on the DRE website), and what he has said himself in the interview.

The only thing I'm certain about is that somewhere, sometime, Froy Candelario will Google his own name, find this thread, and have a good laugh...

If he hasn't already.

Not a bad neighborhood he lives in:
1705 Parthenia St. Northridge CA

I don't think Froy believes in Google. He could be his own franchise, if he unleashed the power of the internet with his own super dynamic powerful awesome real estate business model.

heck, he could be the bill gates of real estate....