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#295609 - 06/20/09 02:51 PM
NVSI certified
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Is any agent NVSI certified for doing BPO's? I received an email from Infinity Group Direct Asset Management that you need to have this certification in order to do BPO's for them. They say they have adopted this new standard. They send you a coupon to save $100, I have checked on line & it seems that the cert is over $300 less the discount. I know I don't have the cash, right now, but I am curious to know if anyone has done this cert.
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#295613 - 06/20/09 03:31 PM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: zpcsc]
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Loc: Los Angeles, CA REO Capital
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Don't do it...is another way to make money with that company.
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#295628 - 06/20/09 08:23 PM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: RecoveringREAgnt]
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Registered: 05/13/08
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Loc: Orange County, CA
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SCAM
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#295636 - 06/20/09 10:10 PM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: socalreman]
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Registered: 11/20/07
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Yup, scam, got the certification and haven't heard from them since
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#306784 - 09/18/09 10:57 AM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: HUDLover]
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Registered: 07/13/09
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So I just came across a bpo and the agent has their name on it as 'Bob Bobberson NVSI Cert' (Yes the first and last name is made up and this was the best I could think of on an early friday morning) I don't seem to get why agents pay for these certifications. Maybe you will all be kind enough to explain it to me the simpleton that I am so I understand the logic.
Here's my prospective. I have worked with probably 400+ Clients for bpo's. They can't agree among themselves let alone with a seperate company who is trying to state that they teach the proper way to do things. And even when I find the ones that can somewhat agree about how they want their criteria. Give it a week and it then changes to something else.
So I'm just a little curious why you would go pay to get a certificate when next week or next month or even 4 hours from when you walk out of the door holding your shiny piece of paper, the market changes and everything you were just instructed and 'Certified' on, no longer applies.
And why for the life of me would you enter your name for a BPO company as 'Bob Bobberson NVSI Cert' - I've worked with assigners and QC'rs and the like for years. They look at your stats not your name. And it doesn't give it any weight when it comes to assigning the order or qc'ing it. They are interested in getting it assigned out. They won't say to themselves. 'Well Jim's closer to the property but bob...bob has NVSI so lets take him instead'
Please explain it to me.
J~
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#306832 - 09/18/09 03:56 PM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: REODayton]
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Registered: 11/20/07
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I have so many of these things it's not funny. But with each one I have learned something. Just a choice that I don't put each one on my bpo's. They don't mean anything to the bpo provider most of the time either. But I do think that they have value and I am glad that I invested in myself and my career by taking them.
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#306833 - 09/18/09 04:21 PM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: ....J~]
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Registered: 02/16/06
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So I just came across a bpo and the agent has their name on it as 'Bob Bobberson NVSI Cert' (Yes the first and last name is made up and this was the best I could think of on an early friday morning) I don't seem to get why agents pay for these certifications. Maybe you will all be kind enough to explain it to me the simpleton that I am so I understand the logic.
Here's my prospective. I have worked with probably 400+ Clients for bpo's. They can't agree among themselves let alone with a seperate company who is trying to state that they teach the proper way to do things. And even when I find the ones that can somewhat agree about how they want their criteria. Give it a week and it then changes to something else.
So I'm just a little curious why you would go pay to get a certificate when next week or next month or even 4 hours from when you walk out of the door holding your shiny piece of paper, the market changes and everything you were just instructed and 'Certified' on, no longer applies.
And why for the life of me would you enter your name for a BPO company as 'Bob Bobberson NVSI Cert' - I've worked with assigners and QC'rs and the like for years. They look at your stats not your name. And it doesn't give it any weight when it comes to assigning the order or qc'ing it. They are interested in getting it assigned out. They won't say to themselves. 'Well Jim's closer to the property but bob...bob has NVSI so lets take him instead'
Please explain it to me.
J~ I don't opt for many of these. I did the NABPOP certification as my main client expressd a desire for us to. I do about 25-30 orders a week for them, they wanted us to get the certification and it made business sense. It cost $200 and I did learn some things from this. I could care less about the certification. I just wanted to keep working and not have any interruptions...I think you may have askedabout this before under the NABPOP or the EML thread and I gave my thoughts then. As for signing one name with their "certifed" piece....its stupid in my book. Gts you nothing, your data and work speaks for itself.
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#306876 - 09/18/09 11:08 PM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: ....J~]
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Registered: 07/15/09
Posts: 90
Loc: Northern California
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I am so glad/happy for your post. I keep thinking I should get one of these certifications. I will now wait until/unless I am reguested to get a certification. Thank you soooooo much MSVJ for saving me some money.
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#306879 - 09/18/09 11:47 PM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: ....J~]
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Registered: 09/24/06
Posts: 1967
Loc: US
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So I just came across a bpo and the agent has their name on it as 'Bob Bobberson NVSI Cert' (Yes the first and last name is made up and this was the best I could think of on an early friday morning) I don't seem to get why agents pay for these certifications. Maybe you will all be kind enough to explain it to me the simpleton that I am so I understand the logic.
Here's my prospective. I have worked with probably 400+ Clients for bpo's. They can't agree among themselves let alone with a seperate company who is trying to state that they teach the proper way to do things. And even when I find the ones that can somewhat agree about how they want their criteria. Give it a week and it then changes to something else.
So I'm just a little curious why you would go pay to get a certificate when next week or next month or even 4 hours from when you walk out of the door holding your shiny piece of paper, the market changes and everything you were just instructed and 'Certified' on, no longer applies.
And why for the life of me would you enter your name for a BPO company as 'Bob Bobberson NVSI Cert' - I've worked with assigners and QC'rs and the like for years. They look at your stats not your name. And it doesn't give it any weight when it comes to assigning the order or qc'ing it. They are interested in getting it assigned out. They won't say to themselves. 'Well Jim's closer to the property but bob...bob has NVSI so lets take him instead'
Please explain it to me.
J~ I like having you around. You are one of the few who work on the other side of the business and tell it like it is. Imo these companies who offer the programs give a kickback to the companies who make it a requirement. I haven't taken a single class for bpo's (had to take two for reo), but i'm willing to bet my bpos are some of the best. If I were brand new I would consider taking some to help teach me. I don't have time to sit on my computer to become certified for companies who opened up shop in the last year or two. I'm too busy with bpos and selling houses to get a certification that's worth less than the paper it's printed on. Save your money!
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#306897 - 09/19/09 09:56 AM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: BpoBill]
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Registered: 12/21/05
Posts: 1477
Loc: MA
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So I just came across a bpo and the agent has their name on it as 'Bob Bobberson NVSI Cert' (Yes the first and last name is made up and this was the best I could think of on an early friday morning) I don't seem to get why agents pay for these certifications. Maybe you will all be kind enough to explain it to me the simpleton that I am so I understand the logic.
Here's my prospective. I have worked with probably 400+ Clients for bpo's. They can't agree among themselves let alone with a seperate company who is trying to state that they teach the proper way to do things. And even when I find the ones that can somewhat agree about how they want their criteria. Give it a week and it then changes to something else.
So I'm just a little curious why you would go pay to get a certificate when next week or next month or even 4 hours from when you walk out of the door holding your shiny piece of paper, the market changes and everything you were just instructed and 'Certified' on, no longer applies.
And why for the life of me would you enter your name for a BPO company as 'Bob Bobberson NVSI Cert' - I've worked with assigners and QC'rs and the like for years. They look at your stats not your name. And it doesn't give it any weight when it comes to assigning the order or qc'ing it. They are interested in getting it assigned out. They won't say to themselves. 'Well Jim's closer to the property but bob...bob has NVSI so lets take him instead'
Please explain it to me.
J~ I like having you around. You are one of the few who work on the other side of the business and tell it like it is. Imo these companies who offer the programs give a kickback to the companies who make it a requirement. I haven't taken a single class for bpo's (had to take two for reo), but i'm willing to bet my bpos are some of the best. If I were brand new I would consider taking some to help teach me. I don't have time to sit on my computer to become certified for companies who opened up shop in the last year or two. I'm too busy with bpos and selling houses to get a certification that's worth less than the paper it's printed on. Save your money! I agree....MSVJ is good to have around. What I really like about her is she is thick-skinned and doesn't go off in a huff when we disagree with her (or MSV). When I first joined the board, there were a lot of disagreements and not so much "play nice, now" from the mods. I admit, sometimes, it went over the line but it made for interesting discussions which have gotten a lot more "vanilla" lately. It is refreshing to have someone around who can take the heat and give a rational answer back - whether we agree or not.
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#306998 - 09/20/09 05:08 PM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: Concepts05]
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Registered: 10/01/07
Posts: 377
Loc: REPO VILLE USA
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In regards to MSVJ maybe there should be a 30 minute monthly or bi-monthly meeting to touch base with everyone with of course I am sure all mills etc require a test to even come on board to make sure the agent qualifies... OH wait that is a rare deal... By the way this was in regards to your post and not your company or the company you represent. At the very least I love seeing a monthly UPDATE email to changes... (I hope I don't get beat up on this post but always open to criticism)
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#307026 - 09/20/09 08:25 PM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: REO DISPATCH]
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Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 34
Loc: CA, OC
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NABPOP I have been considering taking this, what clients find this cretification important?
Vinman
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#307059 - 09/21/09 10:03 AM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: REO DISPATCH]
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Registered: 07/13/09
Posts: 800
Loc: USA
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In regards to MSVJ maybe there should be a 30 minute monthly or bi-monthly meeting to touch base with everyone with of course I am sure all mills etc require a test to even come on board to make sure the agent qualifies... OH wait that is a rare deal... By the way this was in regards to your post and not your company or the company you represent. At the very least I love seeing a monthly UPDATE email to changes... (I hope I don't get beat up on this post but always open to criticism) Mr. J - What do you think the test should include? I opted that every agent take this test ( http://www.fhr-net.co.uk/weblog/19/japanese-iq-test/) But I was told that was just me having a sick sense of humor. Seriously though. What do you as the agent think would be a fair way to access the qualifications of any agent. I'm interested to know. J~
Edited by MSVJ~ (09/21/09 10:04 AM)
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#307099 - 09/21/09 03:21 PM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: ....J~]
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Registered: 08/20/07
Posts: 135
Loc: Southern Oklahoma
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I passed! Are we graded on time?
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#307115 - 09/21/09 06:37 PM
Re: NVSI certified
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Registered: 07/13/09
Posts: 800
Loc: USA
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Depends... How long did it take you and did you google the answer sheet Sean?
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#307206 - 09/22/09 03:36 PM
Re: NVSI certified
[Re: ....J~]
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Registered: 08/20/07
Posts: 135
Loc: Southern Oklahoma
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Took about 10 minutes and, no, I didn't google the answer sheet. I guess if I was smarter (or less ethical, I'm not sure which, maybe both) I might have thought of that. From about 5 minutes to 8 minutes I was thinking that the answer was that there is no solution, but, being stubborn, I kept trying. I knew how the end had to play out and that helped me work the rest of it out.
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