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#285941 - 04/13/09 07:36 AM Let's talk about our cars
DeanMesaAZ Offline
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So I have this problem with cars... I drive them until they are dead because I like to get my money out of them. Well I have a 1999 Cirrus that will not die it has 278K miles on it.

Runs strong, outside looks good the only real problem is leather seats are cracking and have seat cover on drivers seat.

It never bothered me that I have an older car because I like being frugal and I refuse to have a car payment.

I was in a discussion with another agent who thinks we get judged by our clients on our cars, I disagree.

What do you think? Break down and buy a 8-10K car with cash or should I try to get another year out of this one?
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#285943 - 04/13/09 07:54 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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We've had this discussion many times on this board - you might want to do a search and see some of the older discussions.

If this discussion takes off though, I'll make it a sticky, since it keeps coming up every few months.

I think a car needs to look presentable. If it were me, I would buy very nice seat covers for your car so that it looks all uniform. If the car is neat, clean, and well cared for I don't think anyone is going to think you're a piece of worthless trash. LOL

You will have opinions all over the map. I drive a Honda Mini Van. I love it, though I'm thinking of getting a Subaru Forester. Used. I never buy new.

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#285954 - 04/13/09 09:36 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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i have been really busy and have not posted lately.

do i drive a decent car because i sold more houses or did driving a nice car help me sell more houses?


i would say...a little of both.

most clients know NOTHING about me until we meet. first impressions are important. if i tell them that i am successful and drive a bucket, they might not believe me. if i drive a nice car and dont sound successful, they might not believe me. you have to have both in my opinion.

when i first meet someone, all they know of me is what they see of me until we start to talk. if they make a decision in thier mind before i get to the door, i have more "catching up to do". if i look the part of a guy who is successful all i have to do once i get to the door is keep the part.

i think that i have more credability when pulling up to a 500k home in a decent car.

if i bring my bucket of a truck (used to make dump runs) to a house they might think that i am desperate for a sale and that could hurt me. if i look as if i make many a sales that could help. your call, but i would say that if you can drive a decent automobile then you should.

i always buy used. i cant rationalize a new car price.

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#286073 - 04/14/09 01:52 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: estatereal]
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I have a 1997 Toyota Tercel with 132,000 miles on it. My mom has one with 281,000 miles on it but hers is a 1996. I have almost all original parts on there if you can beleive that. I get letters weekly from Toyota wanting to buy the car back from me because they have a 6 month waiting list for them.

To bad GM is going down the crapper. They are looking at BK and just recalled over 1 million vehicles built in the 1990's because of possible engine fire hazards.

I like buying American but they just don't hold up like the Toyota's.Go 80k in an American car and I will already be looking at the tranny.

The type of car depends on the client. If you have the stuck up type that is superficial (botox,cosmetic surgery,all that crap) then yes image will matter.

I work with developers and list commercial. I always tell people I love my Tercel as it's effecient on cost and gas. People always like the fact that I am cost effecient. They feel like I will look after their bottom line and work to put more money in their pocket.

I have had developers say they would never buy a car new and those people were idiots for paying full price.Newly rich are the idiots who blow their money. Old money people are astute and keep a low profile and always love to save money.

Most people in whatever income bracket are everyday folk looking for an honest business person to trust and do what they say they will do.

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#286131 - 04/14/09 04:30 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: super realtor]
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2006 Buick Rendezvous here. It is a sort of SUV, so it looks like a real estate car. It's a Buick, so it doesn't look pretentious. Yes, I bought it used in 2007.

I do think the car makes some difference, and I do believe I'd need a fancy car if I dealt in $500k houses. I just don't believe that an agent has much credibility if the car doesn't almost match the client. I said "almost" because the agent does not necessarily have to play in exactly the same league as the client, but the client does have to be comfortable in the car.
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#286141 - 04/14/09 05:08 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: LizL]
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Heck, I just drive a 08" Accord 4dr and it seems to fit all my needs and all type of client ranges. Its good for cheaper prices and more expensive because its newer.
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#286143 - 04/14/09 05:12 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: LizL]
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The car you drive implies alot about you to anyone who agrees to meet you for a professional purpose.

It's the "dress for success" concept. It applies to your whole image. You wouldn't meet a client in a tank-top and board shorts, would you?

lizl has the right idea. Nothing over-the-top, but try to imply that you're not struggling.

People always get caught up in how human nature should work rather than how it does.

The average person would pick lizl over deanmesaAZ or super realtor if they had just that information about them.

It matters.

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#286405 - 04/16/09 05:34 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DPaccess]
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The car you drive when you take clients to visit properties is a lot like the shoes you wear.

If your car is clean, looks good(not expensive but looks good) and smells nice that is all you usually really need.

For example, if you were driving a client in a BMW but the the car had not been weashed in a few months and the inside smelled bad, that would leave a worst impression then driving a 1996 Tercel.

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#286493 - 04/17/09 09:47 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: TicoRealty]
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Alot of the times, we are gonna get judged by our cars, dress and other things in or out of the RE industry...like I said, all that matters in the end result is that you deliver and REALLY impress your clients. I know we all do it, but you really get another whole kind of education working in Real Estate!

Right now I don't have a car, I get around on public transportation, I will be buying a point A/point B car pretty soon...I just activated my license and signed on with an office at the end of last month. It's a business that takes money to make money, at least in the beginning. I would love to push a Prosche or a BMW, but the income doesn't call for that at the moment. When and if it allows, I will continue to move business and gather gather gather when it comes to generating leads and doing business...my car and style of dress will change more than likely, but my business sense will not

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#286502 - 04/17/09 10:22 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: MrsSea]
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I think that what you drive depends on what your target clientele would be. If you are in a fairly large metro area, looking to become the #1 agent with ultra luxury homes, I don't think that you would be taken seriously with a 1998 Ford Pickup. On the flip side, if you are showing some 10 acre horse farms, the Zegna suit and new LS430 probably won't really score you many points either.
For most of us, the lions share of our business will be in the middle of those extremes, and "clean and presentable" rules the day.
On a personal note, I am much more impressed with at 5-10 year old car that is super clean, than some new lease vehicle that rolled right off the lot...
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#286681 - 04/18/09 09:10 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Don-COH]
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I'm sure there is probably a car upholstery repair shop somewhere around you. Whenever my leather seats start to wear, I just take them there and get them fixed. (I like driving the wheels off my cars as well.)

Might be your best bet. smile


Thats assuming of course, that the rest of the car doesn't have a smashed in fender, haze oil smoke, etc. smile

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#286713 - 04/19/09 03:38 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Malok]
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I just bought a Cadillac Escalade and I think it reflects a great image of my success and business. I have had several compliments made by clients about my Escalade too.

So I think image matters. I think a vehicle is a part of your image, just like the clothes you wear. This is just my opinion.
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#286743 - 04/19/09 08:53 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Agent 007]
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Add me to the list of people who drive the wheels off of their cars before getting rid of them. I had an '89 Chevy Beretta that had 198K on it when I traded it in for a '01 Chevy Cavalier. The Cavy had 130K on it when I swapped cars with my BF for his Nissan Maxima. I would have held on to the Cavy until it died but I did need something with 4 doors. Say what you will, but cheap Chevy's that are well maintained never die.

I'm thinking about trading the Maxima in for a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes C300 once I start getting something that resembles a steady income. Looks impressive, but can pick up an '07 or '08 for under $30K.
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#286747 - 04/19/09 09:04 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Rainbowtyedye]
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I drive an '02 Lincoln Navigator. Bought it used in '04. Now it has over 100k but I still love it. With two kids, the inside is a bit messy but in my area, we don't drive clients around, they meet us. I do believe you are judged by what you drive but again it depends on your clientele. My clients are anywhere from a $100,000 to $350,000.

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#287064 - 04/21/09 12:35 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: loveofcreed68]
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I drive a 06 dodge charger custom convertible and a Infinity qx56. On nice days i drive the convertible and if i drive really far i jump into the infinity for a smother ride.

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#288989 - 05/03/09 09:46 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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I drive a ford truck and I don't iron my clothes. Many times I wear shorts or jeans. I always tuck in my shirt and wear a belt though and my shirts button down. I think image people attract image clients. Not everyone cares about image. Some people look for substance. Substance agents attract substance clients. Image and substance are not exclusive, so I am not trying to insult anyone.
Eons ago Plato and Socrates had this same debate, form versus function.
I know people judge me by the way I look and by what I drive. I don't think about that or dwell on it. I know people judge me based on what I do for them. I care about that. These folks keep me busy and I don't have to iron. Woohoo!


Edited by Doin' bpose (05/03/09 09:52 PM)
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#290190 - 05/12/09 01:45 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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Who cares! It's the work that you do that matters.
The only thing I agree with is that you do have to look presentable! No excuse.

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#290257 - 05/12/09 03:02 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: SoniqueAgent]
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I've never seen myself as a shuttle service for clients. they are adults with their own vehicles.

I'm shopping for a Mercedes SL63 convertible. It'll hold ONE passenger, so clients can forget about a caravan. LOL

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#290766 - 05/15/09 10:15 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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I lease a new one every 4 years. You gotta look successful in order to be successful in Real Estate. I would rather live in a mini home and drive something expensive cuz your clients don't see where you live.

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#291069 - 05/17/09 06:56 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: EXITREALTYNS]
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Hey guys,

Would clients see a big expensive car as a bad thing? I realize having a nice car shows success but when is nice too nice?

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#291217 - 05/18/09 09:21 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Brantford Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Brantford Guy
Hey guys,

Would clients see a big expensive car as a bad thing? I realize having a nice car shows success but when is nice too nice?

That's a good point. You impress some and irk others. I guess you have to establish your target market.

I agree some buyers can be intimidated by too much flash, just as some buyers are impressed by a fancy ride.
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#291219 - 05/18/09 09:27 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: EXITREALTYNS]
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Originally Posted By: EXITREALTYNS
I lease a new one every 4 years. You gotta look successful in order to be successful in Real Estate. I would rather live in a mini home and drive something expensive cuz your clients don't see where you live.


I've visited St. Frances Xavier College!! Lovely area. I walked on the frozen waves there. An experience I will NEVER Forget.

Sorry though, I totally disagree. I would rather ride a bicycle than live in a mini home. You have clients may come by or check up on you and you live there for goodness sake. Enjoy it, and Sleep well. Driving around in a box of metal on wheels is only transportation, not a habitat. Just my 2 cents
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#291939 - 05/24/09 11:29 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Here is my opinion, I have seen Realtor who do great business in jeans and old car. There are different kind of people, people that want to see shiny Realtor with luxury car and people that look what this Realtor has in the had. i am from the second group people. However if the car is clean and you wear yourself clean and nice it is OK. I hate dirty cloths and cars.
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#291951 - 05/25/09 07:35 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Viktor]
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Does it matter what I drive to a former on lock-out day or an investor buyer of my reo? After 20 years and spending thousands of dollars on vehicles the answer I learned is no, not really. So I buy used and drive a 10 year old car with a couple hundred thousand miles for now.
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#291985 - 05/25/09 12:45 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Retsof Yor]
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I think I'm going to leave the office now and give my car a thorough cleaning. It's pretty bad right now...darn kids!

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#292013 - 05/25/09 02:51 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: shana]
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Originally Posted By: shana
I've never seen myself as a shuttle service for clients. they are adults with their own vehicles.

I'm shopping for a Mercedes SL63 convertible. It'll hold ONE passenger, so clients can forget about a caravan. LOL


That's one cool car!



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#292380 - 05/28/09 01:42 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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I referred my brother-in-law (and sister-in-law) to an agent in L.A. when they were looking to buy a home in the area. A few weeks later they were in escrow with a house in Burbank. I thought, great, that referral worked out. But then my brother-in-law told me that they had used a different agent. I asked why the agent I had referred him to hadn't worked out. He said it was because she picked them up in a crappy car. So there you have it. Some people definitely care about the car you drive. I'd call that a pretty significant example.

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#292679 - 05/29/09 10:26 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: La Jolla Homes]
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Originally Posted By: La Jolla Homes
I referred my brother-in-law (and sister-in-law) to an agent in L.A. when they were looking to buy a home in the area. A few weeks later they were in escrow with a house in Burbank. I thought, great, that referral worked out. But then my brother-in-law told me that they had used a different agent. I asked why the agent I had referred him to hadn't worked out. He said it was because she picked them up in a crappy car. So there you have it. Some people definitely care about the car you drive. I'd call that a pretty significant example.


Did you choose the 1st referral agent randomly or did you screen the agent?
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#292681 - 05/29/09 10:40 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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Brian Buffini used to drive a pretty crappy car when he first started out.

Oh well. If people don't like my van, that's fine...I probably wouldn't like them either, anyway...it would be a strained relationship. I don't get along well with snooty patooties.

How does one determine "crappy" anyway? That's such a subjective term.

Someone could look at my car and call it "crappy" because it's 5 years old, has a small dent in the side...it could be considered "crappy" because it's more than two years old and is an obvious Soccer Mom car....

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#293144 - 06/02/09 11:59 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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I'm with you 100% Dean. I'm in a 1999 Nissan that's at 155k, with no signs of slowing down. I hate car payments and will never make one again.

I don't buy the theory an old car hurts your business.

Imagine a client saying "He was well prepared, friendly, knowledgeable, and I think he would do a great job for us. But I don't like that car so lets use the other guy."

That's a problem client you don't want anyway.
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#294816 - 06/14/09 09:51 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: grexley]
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OK- I have my own proof on this...

I was a single mom for 13 years and still have that mindset... I believed in driving the wheels off a car... hating getting a new one... believe that putting money into a car is like throwing it out the window...

I grew up a Pontiac girl (1st car was a Ram Air IV Trans Am - Can you say Vroommmmm). I had 4 Pontiac Grand Prix's in a row - all with over 180,000 before I would finally cave and get another one.

Two years ago it was time for a new one... and off I go to get a new Grand Prix... my hubby informed me that we would not being buying another Prix... that I had to pick "the next level up"... I was NOT HAPPY! We proceeded to argue and fight about it for 2+ weeks... everyone in the office was laughing. I was fighting getting a new expensive car and he was fighting for me to have one...Role reversal....

I finally caved in when I figured out with my husband's company discount (this was prior to him coming into Real Estate Full Time) we could buy an Infiniti M35 for only $3500 more than my Prix. It is a nice car, I have to admit and while I lost the battle I ultimately won the war because I get to drive it everyday.

Now to perception.... I go to a listing appointment and sit down with the clients. At one point they are asking me for my experience, etc. and I am telling them. The guy says to me "well if you are doing so well - you should be driving a nice car" I tell him I am driving an Infiniti. I got the listing... This was a retired older gentleman, not very afluent at all, and his listing was only $175,000. I asked him later why it mattered what type of car I drove. He said that he wanted to hire a successful agent and if I had drove up in an older car he would think that I wasn't successful.

I hated telling my husband that story as I got the HUGE I told you so...

I may drive a nicer car these day but I am still a Pontiac driving, single mom at heart and I hate having a ton of money in something that everyone out there can use as a moving target to hit.

PS Yes I know that they have done away with my Pontiac's - I am wearing all black for a year)


Edited by UrsulaLowther (06/14/09 09:54 AM)
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#294820 - 06/14/09 09:59 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: UrsulaLowther]
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I drive a bright yellow 2003 Subaru Baja. It's not luxurious, but it does make a statement. It's obviously not a REal-a-tor car, but it's unique enough that my clients always comment on it, positively. I like the idea that it's fun without being pretentious, just in case my client has some concern that I'm too uptight or stuck-up for their taste.

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#294822 - 06/14/09 10:01 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Jennifer Allan]
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I wish they still made that model new. I would pick one up in a heartbeat. Have not found one resale that has not had the begeezus drive out of it though.
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#294863 - 06/14/09 04:43 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Retsof Yor]
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It all depends on the client. I drove in up in a 1997 toyota tercel 140,000 miles on it. I drive it because it get's excellent gas mileage and insurance is low because it is paid for.

Other commercial broker drove up in a big truck brand new built to the nine's.

I told the seller I focus on getting listings sold not shining my car. My presentation and the info I offered kicked the crap out of the other guy and I got the 3 million dollar land lsiting.

I am in GA where people aren't as shallow say in Cali. Yes in Cali some expect you to look a certain way because it's a fake world of insecurity,botox,and silicone.

At least I will decompose naturally and these other people will trash the earth forever with all the stuff pumped into them! LOL

Seriously if you do run in high end circles it is expected. Most everyday run of the mill folks could care less at least here in Ga.

It still has to be clean and presentable. I have seen brand new cars look 30 years old after how they are treated.

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#294864 - 06/14/09 04:47 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Retsof Yor]
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Originally Posted By: Retsof Yor
I wish they still made that model new. I would pick one up in a heartbeat. Have not found one resale that has not had the begeezus drive out of it though.


Are you referring to my Baja? I didn't know they stopped making them! It's been a fabulous car - at 80,000 miles, I've had no problems - just new tires & brakes & stereo...
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#294904 - 06/14/09 10:55 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Jennifer Allan]
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Oh Jennifer playing that music to loud again! What's that I can't hear what you are saying....:)

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#294922 - 06/15/09 02:13 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: UrsulaLowther]
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Ursula,

You sound like me, except I'm a guy. I started in this business with a black 1998 Pontiac Trans Am. I actually still have it. Of course it is paid off. I love that car though, very slick and fast. I can fishtail through an intersection like there's no tomorrow.

I just recently bought a black 2006 Cadillac Escalade. Being that I hate payments, I paid cash for it. It is soooo comfortable! It is also a very professional vehicle to have around clients. So now I have my fast car and my luxury SUV. I couldn't ask for a better combination.

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#295005 - 06/15/09 07:53 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Agent 007]
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I think what you drive speaks to your clients. I have two vehicles - one is my buyer vehicle and MY FAVORITE and the other is my listing car. The two vehicles are: A Black Hummer-H3 and a White Mercedes Roadster. It's easy to guess which is which. The fact is that a seller wants to work with someone successful and they have a perception of what success looks like and to many of them it is not an economy car. Sad but true!

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#295006 - 06/15/09 07:56 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Jennifer Allan]
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Originally Posted By: Jennifer Allan
I drive a bright yellow 2003 Subaru Baja. It's not luxurious, but it does make a statement. It's obviously not a REal-a-tor car, but it's unique enough that my clients always comment on it, positively. I like the idea that it's fun without being pretentious, just in case my client has some concern that I'm too uptight or stuck-up for their taste.






I love it! I would recognize you everywhere and it can go almost anywhere!

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#295091 - 06/16/09 01:35 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: NiNi]
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Originally Posted By: NiNi
I think what you drive speaks to your clients. I have two vehicles - one is my buyer vehicle and MY FAVORITE and the other is my listing car. The two vehicles are: A Black Hummer-H3 and a White Mercedes Roadster. It's easy to guess which is which. The fact is that a seller wants to work with someone successful and they have a perception of what success looks like and to many of them it is not an economy car. Sad but true!


It took me many years to realize the enevitable. I drove a Honda Accord for years and didn't care what anyone thought about it, I guess that's the New York in me, lol.

I finally broke down and now I drive a Mercedes ML 550 which I LOVE. As long as I have a choice in the matter, I probably will be a Benz driver forever. It definetly makes a difference. Clients expect it and use it as a measure of your success. I have had many conversations with people regarding this over the years.

The biggest thing is I love the car and still dont care what the clients think lol. It was a gift to myself right before I turned 40 yay ....


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#295106 - 06/16/09 03:20 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: RealtyPro]
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I think every agent should own two cars,

One average car or truck to meet the average folks with and a luxury car or SUV for meeting the high end clientele.

If you drove over to an average home in a 150k luxury sedan you might end up intimidating those poor folks since they might not be able to identify with you easily especially if they are hurting in the present economy (they might even resent you if your car is worth more than their house), on the other hand if you showed up in a crummy car at an exclusive edition to sell a million dollar home they might not even let you past the gate. smile



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#296399 - 06/28/09 11:29 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ojohn]
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my priority in vehicles is what I want or need...because it's MY vehicle. If I need to caravan a group of clients or agents around, I'll rent an appropriate vehicle, limo, etc. car rental companies rent almost every type of vehicle that exists.

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#296401 - 06/28/09 11:53 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ojohn]
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Originally Posted By: ojohn
I think every agent should own two cars,

One average car or truck to meet the average folks with and a luxury car or SUV for meeting the high end clientele.

If you drove over to an average home in a 150k luxury sedan you might end up intimidating those poor folks since they might not be able to identify with you easily especially if they are hurting in the present economy (they might even resent you if your car is worth more than their house), on the other hand if you showed up in a crummy car at an exclusive edition to sell a million dollar home they might not even let you past the gate. smile



(not meant as professional or legal advice)


I for one refuse to compromise who I am just to impress some snooty rich person. I am proud of who I am, and proud of my Honda Odyssey (but secretly wish it was a 67 Firebird, but oh well can't have everything) and if they don't like it, too bad.

I do know this - my Honda Odyssey has gotten me a lot of business and has me in the top ten for sold transactions in my MLS. A guy I know who has an Escalade and has the "image" is ranked #149.

In my opinion, worrying about image alone is BS. Just do the job, do it well, do it right and you'll be fine. A clean, reliable car in good condition is all you need.

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#296414 - 06/28/09 02:24 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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#296512 - 06/29/09 01:52 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: R. Danneskjold]
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BMW Z3 because i refuse to drive people around. My car is not a taxi to drive you house to house. Instead of having to say that I just have a 2 seater haha.

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#298495 - 07/15/09 06:13 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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Just got my "new" used car after searching for 6 months. I have ben driving a Ford Explorer for 7 years and really love it. It helps that my son is a Ford mechanic. We will actually keep this car. New one is a used Buick Enclave. I will never buy a new car, my husband is loves hunting for the deals.
New car has all the Bells and Whistles, large interior and better gas mileage! I started looking at Volvo and Lexus SUV's but I was unimpresed with the interiors.
Will it make a difference to some people, I think first impressions count for alot in my area!
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#298520 - 07/15/09 11:53 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: MontyC21]
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I used to have a ford explorer when they first came out. It was the hunter green deluxe edition with the fancy leather and power everything.

The downside to Ford is a friend who fix's transmissions would routinely get Ford Explorers in around only 50,000 to 70,000 miles.

He said unlike foreign cars the domestic transmissions are built to big with to much room for the tranny's. So when one part starts getting loose on the inside they fall apart.

Luckily mine made it to 120,000 then I got it fixed for cheap with a patch job (said it might last 1 year or 4 years but couldn't guarantee it) and I sold it.

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#298524 - 07/15/09 12:01 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: super realtor]
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I have two cars/trucks that both get great gas mileage, NOT:(

Ford F150 Platinum SuperCrew

and my baby Hummer H2 SUT
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#298992 - 07/18/09 03:08 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: brseminars]
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I have a gas guzzler Yukon Denali as well. It gets the job done smile

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#298994 - 07/18/09 03:28 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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I drive a '08 Hyundai Sonata. Not fancy but gets good gas mileage for the size.
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#298999 - 07/18/09 08:10 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: North Beach Real]
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My wife and I share two vehiles. We have a 2008 Lexus SUV GX470 and a 2004 Chevy 2500HD truck. I choose to use them based on who I am going to meet. If I'm showing residential homes I use the Lexus. If I'm going to do farm and ranch stuff it will be the Chevy. And of course if my wife has something going I'm designated to the truck. I do wish we had kept my wife's old GEO prism for BPO work though. The Geo was fun to car shop with though. We got a lack of respect when we were shoping for Audis, BMW and Lexus when we were going to the dealers in the Geo. It was enjoyable to me to see the difference how sales people would treat us when they saw us drive up in the GEO or didn't see us drive up at all. smile


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#301467 - 08/05/09 11:27 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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God, I miss my old cars

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#301476 - 08/05/09 12:46 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: jackahole]
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I drive a 2006 jeep liberty. the ground clearance helps during the rainy season (Feb-Dec). I received my first client complaint this past week. In between griping about how this area is not like New York (I work in Central Louisiana), this dr's wife complained about how rough my suv was.

Wouldn't you know it...After driving them around for two days they decided Central Louisiana was not for them!

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#301760 - 08/08/09 06:55 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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I will be looking to buy a used Cadillac, Lincoln, or Older Chrysler very soon. I actually don't drive THAT much being primarily a listing agent; and I want that "Sofa on Wheels" feel.

After years of "feeling the road" with Japanese Imports and a Volvo, it's time to take a step back and ride in cheap luxury again. If it's a two door, so much the better LOL...

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#301899 - 08/10/09 10:07 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Jim Gatos]
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I'm looking to buy a Honda...something no more than 10 yrs old. I'll need to last at least a year...

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#301914 - 08/10/09 10:53 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: MrsSea]
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A Honda will probably last 15 years depending on how well you take care of it.

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#303705 - 08/24/09 09:37 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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Any car well taken care of could last 15 years. I have a 1993 isuzu rodeo that I use as a backup that still starts every time.
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#305306 - 09/06/09 09:59 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: North Beach Real]
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I drive a 2005 Ford Mustang but when my RE career kicks off I plan on getting a bigger car so if needed, I can drive clients to showings without someone being cramped in the back seat.

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#306244 - 09/14/09 07:15 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Take the oil out of it and it will stop. I did this on accident a few times. It shouldnt be too hard.

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#306257 - 09/14/09 09:35 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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I have a 89 and 08 mustang but I am new to real estate and Ive been told by many people that both are not suitable cars to take clients around in. I have quite a bit of car knowledge so I know a lemon from a lime but I dont know which of these next cars would be a respectable "clientle only" car. I'd say the average house that I would show is around 400k. The cars are a 04 Land Rover II discovery, 04 infiniti fx 35, or a 02 ford escape. Please dont message me on mechanical issues of these cars because of all suv's these 3 have the least, like I said before I know quite a bit about cars so all I need is which one of these is the best for my clientle. p.s. if anyone has any questions about cars they can ask me.

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#306275 - 09/15/09 03:16 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Aaron Norton]
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A Ford Escape may look a bit cheap, in my opinion. Up until January, I was driving a 98 Trans Am for 4 years of my real estate career. I feel pretty proud of myself that I still succeeded while driving a sports car. I can't even describe how happy I was to purchase the Escalade in January though. grin
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#306343 - 09/15/09 01:53 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Agent 007]
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Yea well the good thing about the escape is its the hybrid so it gets quite better gas milage than all the others. They all have leather interior and sat/nav but I just cant make up my mind.

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#307030 - 09/20/09 09:08 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Aaron Norton]
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Came into this discussion very late, but I thought it would be a fun topic... I just closed a transaction at $2.55M Cash, representing the buyer. While in the process of looking for the home, my buyer is from China, he dresses extremely comfortable :o) I was driving my F250 4X4 Crewcab everywhere (San Diego, Orange County, Los Angeles County) got very expensive, so about halfway through the search I switched over to my wife's 97 Toyota Camry. It was actually fun showing up to $2M dollar properties in a small older car, especially when you show up at the guarded gates to show the homes. The listing agents were dressed confortable also, but the cars they drive were very nice.

Really didn't get any "yeah right" attitudes, I guess when you are at that level you know not to judge the book by the cover.

When we finally submitted our offer at cash, it was just comfortable to know you didn't have to sweat thinking you wouldn't close.

Like I told one person who I was showing homes to when he asked me why I drove such a large truck instead of a smaller luxury car, I said I would rather drive through the other car and not get sued by my client and/or their family for killing or injuring them. I leave my BMW at home because I am not trying to impress anyone :o)

Actually I really leave the BMW at home because it is having personal problems, LOL!!

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#308161 - 09/30/09 11:40 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Orangecrest]
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08 BMW 335i. that should woo some clients :p

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#308583 - 10/04/09 02:10 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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car topic, very interesting!!

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#308584 - 10/04/09 02:37 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: tech lover]
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had impression all agents driving fancy big cars or SUVs (with GPS) which are good to drive clients around.

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#308591 - 10/04/09 04:08 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: tech lover]
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Here're some links to those other Car threads Perky made reference to up above:

What everyone else is driving

or

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#308871 - 10/06/09 03:46 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Vermont]
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Yea a lot of the agents drive fancy cars like BMW or Benz, but I love those agents who drive a truck as well!

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#308909 - 10/06/09 08:36 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Andrew Chen]
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I have driven a truck all 9 years of my career. It's not even a very nice truck. I like it and it's clean, but it's an entry level, xl model f150. Floors are plastic, crank windows, manual locks. I just showed houses this weekend driving it. I don't show very often though and it was one buyer, not a family.
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#308911 - 10/06/09 08:40 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Andrew Chen]
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Originally Posted By: Andrew Chen
Yea a lot of the agents drive fancy cars like BMW or Benz, but I love those agents who drive a truck as well!


I have fun when I show up at houses w/ my hubby's pick up, complete with galvanized tool boxes and ladder racks. I say "I'm your redneck realtor for today!" and it always gets a few laughs. Esp. when I have a slight issue with the manual transmission and starting out on a slope!

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#310011 - 10/16/09 03:48 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: grexley]
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Drive something that demonstrates that YOU know how to make an intelligent purchase, after all, YOU are asking that they trust you with their purchase of an item that costs 10x as much. When we sell/lease Real Estate, we encourage clients to find the best balance of location, amenities, aesthetics, cost of ownership, etc. How then could one preach those concepts to a client while stepping out of a vehicle that doesn't reflect the use of similar logic?

There are geographic factors that will diversify the vehicles agents drive, but a key thing to remember is that clients may see your vehicle more than your personal office. Your vehicle, your appearance, your confidence and range of expertise are all reflective of your degree of success. Your vehicle is your mobile office. I see agents pay extra (even 3x the normal rate)for an office with a window or a view, but don't see the value in a loaded Toyota Camry Hybrid or Toyota Sequoia Hybrid, instead of an H2, Corvette, or pick-up truck.

Its also important to place slightly more value on the opinions of people that can afford to purchase any vehicle they want to, and CHOOSE a particular vehicle for XYZ reasons (IMHO)

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#310121 - 10/18/09 06:11 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Solex Eke]
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We just bought a vehicle. Our final three choices were BMW X3, FJ Cruiser and Jeep X Unlimited (4 door). Beemer won.

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#310151 - 10/18/09 03:16 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Solex Eke]
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Originally Posted By: Solex Eke
Drive something that demonstrates that YOU know how to make an intelligent purchase,..., we encourage clients to find the best balance of location, amenities, aesthetics, cost of ownership, etc. How then could one preach those concepts to a client while stepping out of a vehicle that doesn't reflect the use of similar logic?

I see agents pay extra (even 3x the normal rate)for an office with a window or a view, but don't see the value in a loaded Toyota Camry Hybrid or Toyota Sequoia Hybrid, instead of an H2, Corvette, or pick-up truck.

Its also important to place slightly more value on the opinions of people that can afford to purchase any vehicle they want to, and CHOOSE a particular vehicle for XYZ reasons (IMHO)


People buy vehicles for different reasons. Not everyone wants/needs the same thing out of a vehicle. Hybrid vehicles do not appeal to many consumers (agents and their clients) for some very logical and intelligent reasons. SUVs and sports cars appeal to many consumers for very logical and intelligent reasons.
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#310737 - 10/22/09 03:57 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Im thinking about getting a nissan altima? or some 4 door car. any suggestions

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#314452 - 11/19/09 11:44 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ut luxury apts]
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I just purchased the 2010 Nissan Altima SL in black, with black leather!

GREAT CAR! It is amazing on gas, nice inside and out and looks like a Lexus from far.

Check it out...

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#316457 - 12/06/09 04:47 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Broker514]
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I've had the same car for 10 years now.
A Geo that gets 40+ mpg. The problem is in RE people judge you by the vehicle you drive. It's sad but true. You can't please everyone with every vehicle. The consensus is buy something late model...a mid-priced four door that is clean and confortable should do the trick. You shouldn't have to spend more than a few thousand $$, unless you want a new car and don't mind the payments or throwing all that hard earned cash away.



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#319230 - 12/26/09 10:12 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Traveler]
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I drive a Mercedes CLS 55 AMG, 470 HP, 510 FT LBS of torque, supercharged and lots of fun to drive. My fourth Benz to date and by far the best one so far. I know my cars have made me more money. Some sellers have actually looked out the window to see what I drove during the interview process and given me the listing as a result of this.

I know that the quality of car that you drive is indicative of how you are thinking as a business person. Driving a clean, new, current model car makes you feel good and is very motivating if nothing else. It does not have to be as expensive or flashy as mine. I know that to grow your business you have to expand your thinking and think bigger than you currently thinking. The car we drive is reflection of whether we are complacent or growning.

JMHO!

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#321061 - 01/10/10 09:53 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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I really think realtors judge other realtors by their cars more than clients do.

I know of realtors (don't we all) who had gorgeous Cadillac Escalades or similar flashy cars...and are not very successful at all. Here I am in my humble Honda van w/ over 100,000 miles on it, dirty half the time....selling circles around them.

It's not the car.


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#321119 - 01/10/10 06:00 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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I drive a beat down 2005 White Ford Ranger with almost 200,000 miles but I do not work with buyers. I work for banks and asset companies. I logged 80,000 miles last year. Why would I put that kinda milage on a $65,000 Escalade when I can tear up a $3,000 beater instead and when its trash I can toss it aside and go buy another one. Gee 2 vehicles instead of 1 and $59,000 saved! You got to love the big headed agents.lol
When I do have to take a buyer out, I drive my wife's 2005 Kia that has 22,000 miles on it and is like new. I have never had a compaint on my car from a client.

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#321124 - 01/10/10 06:21 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: bsareo]
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I bet you get pretty good gas too, around 25 mpg? I used to drive a 97 ranger. Now I am in a 03 f150 with 150000 on it. I bought it used with 33k miles on it, still under factory warranty. Never have made a payemnt. Every month that goes by I am ahead. My truck has been very good to me. I am hoping to make it over 200k, 250 might be a stretch.
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#321450 - 01/12/10 08:53 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: bsareo]
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You drive 80,0000 in a year and you don't work buyers? What do you do?
I only drive about 15,000 miles a year....mostly personal on my kids and I made half a million last year. I sure am glad my BIG HEAD is working properly. It's obvious you have it wrong. It's a big bank account that allows me to drive a $135,000 car with 470 horsepower and over 500 ft lbss of torque. I wouldn't drive 80,0000 miles for even $1 million income especially when I can earn that on under 20,000 miles You guys need to think bigger and be more honest with youselves. Sorry for telling you like it is. I am not blind. We all live in a glass house. I know all the agents I see and I know their incomess. They are small thinkers with smaller incomes. I do not knock people driving beaters uunless they knock me. Try getting a bigger head. It's called expanding your thinking.es
y.

Originally Posted By: bsareo
I drive a beat down 2005 White Ford Ranger with almost 200,000 miles but I do not work with buyers. I work for banks and asset companies. I logged 80,000 miles last year. Why would I put that kinda milage on a $65,000 Escalade when I can tear up a $3,000 beater instead and when its trash I can toss it aside and go buy another one. Gee 2 vehicles instead of 1 and $59,000 saved! You got to love the big headed agents.lol
When I do have to take a buyer out, I drive my wife's 2005 Kia that has 22,000 miles on it and is like new. I have never had a compaint on my car from a client.

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#321451 - 01/12/10 09:08 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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I can see you are exactly one of the Realtors I was talking about. A total SHOW OFF.. I do not care about your 470 HP and OVER 500 ft lbs of torque and I do not really think that anyone else does either. We are in the middle of a real estate meltdown and your going around flashing this and that and seem to be rather proud of it. I want to see your HALF MILLION tax form from R.E. sales and under 15,000 miles driven. I am just an average hard working guy that is not looking to impress anyone. My clients like me for who I am. Not because I drive around an expensive overkill car. I think it is a total joke that anyone would waste that kinda cash on a car. LMAO:)

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#321461 - 01/12/10 09:35 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: bsareo]
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Well, Lucky, when your market area covers a huge geographic area like mine (about 1,200 square miles to be exact) it's not unusual to rack up a huge amount of miles...I often drive 200 miles in one day...buyers from out of the area are not sure if they want this area here, or that area there until they see them. Not all markets are alike.

I could see if one is working in a rather tight geographic location with a more concentrated population, like a suburban area of just a couple neighborhoods - but that's not possible around here in a rural location. The school district I live in covers over 300 square miles alone. Other districts cover even larger and more spread out areas.

bsareo's blurb states he works "somewhere in the desert" and that could be a gigantic area...if he limits his market to say 200 square miles that may leave him with 20 people. lol

Let's play nice and no name calling everyone.

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#321470 - 01/12/10 10:06 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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Well, I drive a 2001 Grand Prix with more than 170,000 miles. I quite often put on 100-200 miles a day. It ain't a bit flashy, and it has kitty footprints all over it some days.

A year ago, I was meeting with my Escalade driving customer. Unfortunately for him, someone slashed his tires, and there he was with a flat in a not so wonderful neighborhood. Thinking he would change his tire to the spare, he checked...and there wasn't one. Not only that, but as it was about 3 p.m. on a Saturday, there was no place in town that could help him...his tires were a special size...and everyplace was closing within an hour. I felt really bad for him...he drove his vehicle home on the wheel rim.

Of course, you can't say Escalade was junk when Grand Prix was not in a situation like that.

But my GP has driven me very dependably for 150K miles...and it has no payment. I like having no payment. I'm hoping I get 200K before it won't go anymore.

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#321489 - 01/12/10 10:45 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: neudot]
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Please excuse lucky....he's from Toronto....he can't help it. :/


Edited by MHT (01/12/10 10:46 PM)

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#321506 - 01/13/10 12:10 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: MHT]
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LOL MHT. That made me chuckle.

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#321625 - 01/13/10 04:23 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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Interesting topic and I thought I'd throw my two cents in. How do you balance showing up in a flagship mercedes and having clients think that you are obviously charging too much vs. showing your clients that you are successful at what you do and can bring them the results they need? Well, the way I would look at it from a client's perspective: would you take financial advice from a stock broker who didnt appear successful? would you take medical advice from a doctor who was morbidly obese? would you take legal advice from an attorney with questionable legal practices? Anyway, this thread has been an interesting read and I look forward to perusing more of this forum. :-)
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#321628 - 01/13/10 04:39 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Maui]
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I have heard both sides of the argument and have taken the stance that in my rural area, having a nice clean car or truck without going over the top is the best option. We have had clients say that they refused to work with another brokerage because they don't want to be helping make their caddy payments (not even mercedes, Cadillacs! lol). Different areas will be different but around here, if I am driving a $60,000+ car people cry about it....if I drive a $60,000 truck, not a peep. I drive a Nissan Rogue. Nothing too expensive but it's new and clean and does what I need. Also there is a difference in coming across as successful and coming across as arrogant.

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#321663 - 01/13/10 08:37 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Maui]
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With all due respect....I don't know you but you should think before you type. This is the problem with many agents. How do you equate a fat slob Doctor. (An obvious HUGE failure). And a real estate agent driving an expensive car (an obvious sign of success.). I am successful and good at what I do and I earn all my commissions. I deserve what I get paid and I provide phenomenal service 2nd to none. I am not like you where I get paid too much for what I do, since this is what you think of our profession. I earn every cent I make and I am not afraid to show I am good at what I do! Why would I want to drive an average person's car when I am above average. Why should I pretend I am something I am not! I am successfull, I am proud of it and I have paid my dues to get where I am. I am not afraid to show it. I would not drive a SLUMMY broken down car any more than I would LIVE in a SLUMMY broken down house. A buyer who viewed one of my listings complimented my car...he commented I am obviosly good at what I do. I know for a fact my car has more than paid for itself and if you think your looking like the average. Joe because you are so humble I am here to tell you you are misinformed. Yes the few clients yiu have will like you and love you but many are talking behind your back too. Success leaves clues and so does mediocrity and small mindedness.
Originally Posted By: maui realtor
Interesting topic and I thought I'd throw my two cents in. How do you balance showing up in a flagship mercedes and having clients think that you are obviously charging too much vs. showing your clients that you are successful at what you do and can bring them the results they need? Well, the way I would look at it from a client's perspective: would you take financial advice from a stock broker who didnt appear successful? would you take medical advice from a doctor who was morbidly obese? would you take legal advice from an attorney with questionable legal practices? Anyway, this thread has been an interesting read and I look forward to perusing more of this forum. :-)
Originally Posted By: maui realtor
Interesting topic and I thought I'd throw my two cents in. How do you balance showing up in a flagship mercedes and having clients think that you are obviously charging too much vs. showing your clients that you are successful at what you do and can bring them the results they need? Well, the way I would look at it from a client's perspective: would you take financial advice from a stock broker who didnt appear successful? would you take medical advice from a doctor who was morbidly obese? would you take legal advice from an attorney with questionable legal practices? Anyway, this thread has been an interesting read and I look forward to perusing more of this forum. :-)

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#321667 - 01/13/10 09:24 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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Lucky, you could have made 26 SOI calls in the time it took you to write that post.

Hey, I'm a truck driver, but give me a Mercedes and I'd drive it. I wouldn't pay for one though; Germans, ich bin nien berliner. Wouldn't buy a Japanese car either. My father taught me that. I know, I know, cars are made everywhere with parts from Mars, assembled on Pluto. It's the Spirit that counts. Gotta buy American, non-Obama American. So it's Ford, or used Chevy for me. I have a Jeep too, used of course.

Sounds slummy, but this yank don't mind being a bit Slummy...even as Reelter. Heck, you just get 'r dun. We's just tryin' to make our way. That's the motto down yonder way. Up in Canook country you must see things a little different.

I would buy a Porsche though. Because they are sooooo cool.
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#321670 - 01/13/10 09:46 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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Originally Posted By: lucky
With all due respect....I don't know you but you should think before you type. This is the problem with many agents. How do you equate a fat slob Doctor. (An obvious HUGE failure). And a real estate agent driving an expensive car (an obvious sign of success.). I am successful and good at what I do and I earn all my commissions. I deserve what I get paid and I provide phenomenal service 2nd to none. I am not like you where I get paid too much for what I do, since this is what you think of our profession. I earn every cent I make and I am not afraid to show I am good at what I do! Why would I want to drive an average person's car when I am above average. Why should I pretend I am something I am not! I am successfull, I am proud of it and I have paid my dues to get where I am. I am not afraid to show it. I would not drive a SLUMMY broken down car any more than I would LIVE in a SLUMMY broken down house. A buyer who viewed one of my listings complimented my car...he commented I am obviosly good at what I do. I know for a fact my car has more than paid for itself and if you think your looking like the average. Joe because you are so humble I am here to tell you you are misinformed. Yes the few clients yiu have will like you and love you but many are talking behind your back too. Success leaves clues and so does mediocrity and small mindedness.
Originally Posted By: maui realtor
Interesting topic and I thought I'd throw my two cents in. How do you balance showing up in a flagship mercedes and having clients think that you are obviously charging too much vs. showing your clients that you are successful at what you do and can bring them the results they need? Well, the way I would look at it from a client's perspective: would you take financial advice from a stock broker who didnt appear successful? would you take medical advice from a doctor who was morbidly obese? would you take legal advice from an attorney with questionable legal practices? Anyway, this thread has been an interesting read and I look forward to perusing more of this forum. :-)
Originally Posted By: maui realtor
Interesting topic and I thought I'd throw my two cents in. How do you balance showing up in a flagship mercedes and having clients think that you are obviously charging too much vs. showing your clients that you are successful at what you do and can bring them the results they need? Well, the way I would look at it from a client's perspective: would you take financial advice from a stock broker who didnt appear successful? would you take medical advice from a doctor who was morbidly obese? would you take legal advice from an attorney with questionable legal practices? Anyway, this thread has been an interesting read and I look forward to perusing more of this forum. :-)


OK, well, with all due respect....I think you should learn how to quote before you quote.

And I DO NOT believe that Maui was equating your "obvious success" with an obese doctor.

The question posed was....in other words: How can an agent balance the bias that some buyers may have if the agent shows up in a fancy car, thus giving the impression that the agent makes too much money.

Maui went on to throw a personal perspective in there - it would have been better if it had been clarified with "I counter that idea with this: would you trust a morbidly obese doctor? No. Therefore you should not trust an agent with your biggest investment if the agent drives a piece of junk clunker."

I perceived that in the original post, but I guess you needed some help, you were too busy picking apart Maui's post and suggesting that Maui needs to "think before typing"...these darn agents are so dumb....right.

Well. Hmmm. This reminds me of people criticizing other folks' spelling...when their "critique" has some glaring errors too.

laugh


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#321674 - 01/13/10 10:09 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: MHT]
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Also there is a difference in coming across as successful and coming across as arrogant.


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#322164 - 01/16/10 06:27 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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My appologies to Maui. I ripped apart the wrong post. Maui may have actually being agreeing with me. I was simply perturbed by. The Big Head comments from the many SHRUNKRN HEADS!
This is the problem with Black Berries. They r so damn small.
Originally Posted By: Perky_REALTOR
Originally Posted By: MHT
Also there is a difference in coming across as successful and coming across as arrogant.


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#322192 - 01/16/10 08:28 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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I am not going to document this, because anyone who wants to read it can go back 1 page and do it for themselves.

But Lucky you are behaving poorly. This thread is mostly a bunch of agents, myself included, who are proud of their vehicles and have 'magically' found a way to make a living, even though their conveyance might look better in the junk yard than in the parking lot. Not everyone needs a car with flash and style, that is new and grand to work their job. I might make the case that those of us who can get it done without the 'crutch' of a flashy car have strong fundemental sales techniques to fall back on.

Along you come and state your vehicle as though it were a chariot, granted it is nice, then proceed to boast the quantiny of them you have owned (or leased). You are likely a bigger producer than I and most. Great for you. As one who sniped back at you, I apologize, but you must understand I like my truck and I pay my bills. I take care of my family, put money in the bank and I don't like being talked down to. And the shrunken head thing is just a terrible place to go. Placing intellect in the discussion was not an intelligent move. I think you owe us an apology if you want to be taken seriously anymore, at least by me. No one ever attacked you. We just reacted to your perched prose.

I offer an Olive Branch. I'll even help you move a couch in my truck.

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#322196 - 01/16/10 09:23 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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If you read thru the thread you'll see my flaming came as a result of bsdeo (sp?) Calling. Agents like me BIG HEADED because we drive high end vehicles etc. Well......if you insult me am I to take it lying down and not reply with a SMALL HEA0? I've got news for you! Believe it or not, when I started my cold calling thread I was ATTACKED by small minded small thinking agents. I have received at least 10 private messages of support WARNING me of the small minded majority low producing agents with lots of time on their hands defending their mediocrity in this business. I simply posted whi feel thinking big, having a nice car like. Having a nice house is motivating and rewarding. So, NO... I am not behaving badly as you say. I am behaving appropriately for the climate here! As ye sow, so shall you reap! There is your Olive Branch!



Originally Posted By: Doin' bpose
I am not going to document this, because anyone who wants to read it can go back 1 page and do it for themselves.

But Lucky you are behaving poorly. This thread is mostly a bunch of agents, myself included, who are proud of their vehicles and have 'magically' found a way to make a living, even though their conveyance might look better in the junk yard than in the parking lot. Not everyone needs a car with flash and style, that is new and grand to work their job. I might make the case that those of us who can get it done without the 'crutch' of a flashy car have strong fundemental sales techniques to fall back on.

Along you come and state your vehicle as though it were a chariot, granted it is nice, then proceed to boast the quantiny of them you have owned (or leased). You are likely a bigger producer than I and most. Great for you. As one who sniped back at you, I apologize, but you must understand I like my truck and I pay my bills. I take care of my family, put money in the bank and I don't like being talked down to. And the shrunken head thing is just a terrible place to go. Placing intellect in the discussion was not an intelligent move. I think you owe us an apology if you want to be taken seriously anymore, at least by me. No one ever attacked you. We just reacted to your perched prose.

I offer an Olive Branch. I'll even help you move a couch in my truck.

Peace.

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#322197 - 01/16/10 09:28 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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Your post preceded his. He responded to you.
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#322288 - 01/17/10 01:45 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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Originally Posted By: Doin' bpose
Your post preceded his. He responded to you.


Yes, my initial post preceded his and I responded my viewpoints on driving a nice car, having pride in ourselves and what we do. I did not use the words "small headed" until after I was referred to as "big headed"

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#322434 - 01/18/10 10:38 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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I drive a jeep liberty that has gone through NINE window regs. There is no notice when one breaks, either the window will stick (if you are lucky), or the window will crash down.

I keep a roll of duct tape in the jeep just in case. And yes, I have had to pull over (with clients) and duct tape a broken window in place. Now that impresses clients!


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#322435 - 01/18/10 10:53 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: FSBO]
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ROFL @ FSBO. That's classic!

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#322436 - 01/18/10 10:59 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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It showed your clients how resourceful you are....clever!!

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#322454 - 01/18/10 12:52 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: MHT]
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It's funny how the attitudes and opinions of cars has changed since this thread started. Interesting to see everything change so fast.
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#322478 - 01/18/10 02:55 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Atlanta Homes]
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To Lucky, yes, in large part i concur with your opinion on this subject... perhaps i could have been a bit more clear in my statement, alas i was excited to read more posts on this great forum... thank you for your input as well...
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#324765 - 01/30/10 09:42 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Maui]
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Over the years I've learned customers are more comfortable when an agent is driving an average car. When it's all over we are average americans making a living; some a really good living and some content on the level they are. Myself I like sport cars and drive a 2007 Ford Mustang. But when I have to put out signs or have a large family that's going to ride with me I drive for luxury SUV (which was purchase when I was in corporate america).

We all drive what's comfortable to us and our family. Remember one day you can be up and the next down and out.

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#325077 - 02/01/10 10:38 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Ladyshay]
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I dont know...hmm...I either drive my Red Honda Civic..or my wifes Saturn Vue..the only comment I have heard was that my clients got confused and didnt realize it was me because I was driving a different vehicle:)
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#327907 - 02/22/10 10:56 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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I drive a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser. Do a Google image search if you aren't sure what a FJ Cruiser is. I bought this car before I decided to get into the real estate business and I am too far upside down to get out of it now. I have been very concerned about this not being your typical realtor car. I would love to find out what you guys think about it. Please keep in mind that the back seats are difficult for an adult to get into. The rear doors open backwards. I find that most people love the car, but I dread the day that I have to take an older husband and wife to look at homes and the wife has to crawl in and out of the back seat.

My father has a Mercedes SUV that I could borrow from time to time, but he keeps a mountain of cigarette ashes in the floor, so that isn't good either.

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#328116 - 02/23/10 02:17 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: CraigBell]
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1) Love the FJ!! If I can stash a few closing checks from the wife I will get one.

2) Borrow dad's SUV and get it prof. cleaned the day before. If similar to my market, this will only be an issue 2-3 times per year.

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#328125 - 02/23/10 02:52 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: CraigBell]
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I wouldn't think this would be a realtor car showing properties but I would LOVE to drive it. I love those cars.

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#328737 - 02/26/10 06:35 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Hi agents and brokers,

i'm a new agent that will be prospecting for sellers/buyers in the residential market. Just browsing around and found this topic about the cars we drive. I'm thinking about purchasing a Scion xb. It has low emmissions, compact, and economical. Best of all, it has great surface area to wrap for advertising. I'm very open minded to accept any opinions on the pros and cons about promoting myself on my car . Wondering if it would make me look cheesy or cheap driving around a mobile billboard. I've seen people driving all around my area advertising their company, products, and services, but not yet a real estate agent. I'm confident that it's an aggressive way to get my name out there and start acquiring leads. Any comments or advice would be helpful.


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#328741 - 02/26/10 06:48 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: closeEscrow]
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People have done it with success. I don't know if I would do it myself, though. I'm personally too low key for something so in your face.

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#328748 - 02/26/10 07:24 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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I did the car magnets for a month when I started. My insurance company told me I'd save a lot of money if I took them off. So I did. Never looked back.

People are not going to call you since your number is on your car. Have 5000 cards made and hand them out at a pace of 20 a day with a warm smile and hearty hello.
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#328750 - 02/26/10 07:26 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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Why would not using car magnets save you a lot of money? Scratching the paint job?

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#329476 - 03/03/10 07:56 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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I had my first showing in a old beat-up Honda Civic. Stick shift. Noisy. Hard to close driver-side door. Needed a push once in a while. No AC, no radio... nada. This thing looked like it made it through world war two.

So the buyer gets in. He's an easy-going guy, just got divorced, looking for a condo.

We get going. I'm trying to keep speed below 40, otherwise the entire front shakes like a pony ride in front of a super market.

The guy just laughs.

A week later I was on a listing appointment. I listed the place, shook hands with the clients, walked out (all happy and glowing), and my old Civic just wouldn't start. Dead.

So I had to go back and ask for a little push. Talk about embarrassing! LOL
Finally, the poor thing just died on me one day. Of an old age, I guess.

Yeah, it's possible to sell real estate in a crappy car. It's just a bit more challenging wink
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#330629 - 03/10/10 09:36 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Borino]
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My husband and I bought an '03 Avalanche. I use his truck when he isn't. We have 2 four-wheel drive vehicles now. Living in northwest Indiana, we need them.

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#331003 - 03/13/10 10:31 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: loveofcreed68]
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I traded in my Hyundai Elantra for a larger Sonata because it's more comfortable for clients. In my area you do have to drive clients around and my Elantra didn't have much leg room in the rear seat. The Sonata is not a showy car at all, in fact it's almost boring, but very reliable and I love the 100,000 mile warranty. I intend to drive it till it drops. smile

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#331632 - 03/18/10 04:15 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Its extremely interesting to me how the specific cars many people drive say so much about them. Therefore I feel it is important as real estate agents to keep your car looking nice and in good condition. It says a lot about your professional appearance and work ethic.

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#331853 - 03/20/10 07:08 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Bill Hernandez]
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I am going to throw this out there. Maybe someone will grasp it and benefit from it.

A good frend of mine who got his R/E liscence at the same time as me drove the same car (a Lexus GS 300) kept that car for 11 years. Gave him no troubles, very reliable car. His R/E production also stagnated for 11 years between $150,000-$200,000. Finally I got thru to him that he should get himself a car that would put a little spring in his step, that would create a little emotion/excitement as he walked towards it going to an appointment. A car that he really liked and wanted and was reasonably within his grasp and yet a little bit of a stretch.

So last year he bought himself a turbo charged BMW hardtop convertible 3 series. Yes it's only a 2 door, yes the back seat is almost non existent but guess what? His production is over $100k already in the 1st quarter. He comes to the office a little earlier and leaves a little later. He's working the odd Saturdays. He's much more focused and driven and excited.

So YES, I do believe that the car we drive is an extension/indication of who we are and what is going on between our ears
Originally Posted By: Bill Hernandez
Its extremely interesting to me how the specific cars many people drive say so much about them. Therefore I feel it is important as real estate agents to keep your car looking nice and in good condition. It says a lot about your professional appearance and work ethic.

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#331854 - 03/20/10 07:19 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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Lucky,
So what vehicle did the friend buy and I am going to guess that his production made a huge jump with the new ride.

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#331876 - 03/20/10 12:25 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: pastmember]
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100k in the first quarter? That would be a good year for me! Perhaps I will head to the BMW dealership...

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#331938 - 03/20/10 09:44 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: FSBO]
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Time for you to set some serious goals. $100k gross in a year is good if it were part time.

Originally Posted By: FSBO
100k in the first quarter? That would be a good year for me! Perhaps I will head to the BMW dealership...

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#331940 - 03/20/10 09:49 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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Lucky again with cruddy attitude. What gives? You could have taken FSBO's comments as a compliment. He said in as many words, hey good for you, you make (or report to make) 4 times more than me. Instead you went low. You could have made 6 expired calls in that time. I recommend you check your priorities. Afterall, we all can't be lucky.


Edited by Doin' bpose (03/20/10 09:53 PM)
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#331976 - 03/21/10 11:55 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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Unfortunately a decent car in this business is a must. I use different cars for different price levels. If I am showing an expensive home, I drive my LS430. An average to lower priced home, I usually take my Explorer. Pulling up to a $70,000 dollar house in a $70,000 Car usaully is not a good idea. Your clients may feel that they are wasting your time and that could be further from the truth.
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#331984 - 03/21/10 12:39 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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I suggest you re:read my post. My post was not about myself it was referring to a friend.
As for FSBO.....I was trying to help. I suggested he set some serious goals to boosthis income beyond $100k,since this is pretty easy to do. No low blows intended!
If FSBO misunderstood my post, then I appologise to him.
Originally Posted By: Doin' bpose
Lucky again with cruddy attitude. What gives? You could have taken FSBO's comments as a compliment. He said in as many words, hey good for you, you make (or report to make) 4 times more than me. Instead you went low. You could have made 6 expired calls in that time. I recommend you check your priorities. Afterall, we all can't be lucky.

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#331995 - 03/21/10 01:25 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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Telling someone they are doing good if they were a part timer (when they are a full timer) is supposed to boost there spirit and motivate them?

That would be like me telling you to set goals in giving constructive criticism. Your current level of skill is good for a 14 year old.

I see you were talking about a friend's income not yours, but I don't think it impacts my post. I apologize for the inaccuracy.

I think also it is incorrect to assume all of us place income/produciton as our main goal in life. If I had to assume, I would bet most of us strive for a balance of income and family/friends and leisure--certainly not everyone, but I'd bet the majority fall into that category. Meaning we settle for less income to gain the joy of spending time with family, friends while doing things they enjoy.

The car discussion just plays into that. We all make do with what we have. Some of us are like lucky and work to be the Mercedes of agents in the office. I do quite well with my truck, but I know I have a different business model. It takes all sorts.
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#332045 - 03/21/10 07:26 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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Lucky--my remark was meant as a compliment. My hats off to anyone who earns 400k a year in real estate! With an avg. transaction price around 135k, 400k in my market would be tough to say the least. In fact, the big wigs in my market MAYBE pull in 200-250 during a good year.

Doin-- Thanks for watching my back!

I did put a 35k duplex under contract today. And like any big wig agent, I had both sides!!!

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#332046 - 03/21/10 07:30 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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I never assumed you or anyone makes money/production your main goal in life. Again, I suggest you spend some time reading and reflecting before posting. They only reason I talk about selling Real Estate, setting goals to make more money in less time etc, is because THIS IS A REAL ESTATE IDEA FORUM!

Earning $100,000 a year in real estate definitely does not take that much time. Let me illustrate what I mean with my 14 year old level of communication.

Full time in Real Estate sales as with any other profession would equate to approximately 40 hours a week. In most other professions...less than that would be what I referred to as part time. The typical full time profession entails approximately 2000 hours a year and realistically...if you want to keep your job even MORE. Assuming a conservative commission of $5000 (yes I know it could be less or more) that equates to 20 deals in a year. This means FSBO can invest 100 hours to secure 1 deal/transaction. This is very easy to do with some goal setting, training and planning. Definitely does not eat into your time spent with family, friends, hobbies etc. Not even close!

This is what I meant when I replied to FSBO that he needs some serious goal setting and could earn $100,000 part time if he set some goals to do so. I apologize if it seemed my post to FSBO was cruddy. I said what I meant and I meant what I said.


Originally Posted By: Doin' bpose
Telling someone they are doing good if they were a part timer (when they are a full timer) is supposed to boost there spirit and motivate them?

That would be like me telling you to set goals in giving constructive criticism. Your current level of skill is good for a 14 year old.

I see you were talking about a friend's income not yours, but I don't think it impacts my post. I apologize for the inaccuracy.

I think also it is incorrect to assume all of us place income/produciton as our main goal in life. If I had to assume, I would bet most of us strive for a balance of income and family/friends and leisure--certainly not everyone, but I'd bet the majority fall into that category. Meaning we settle for less income to gain the joy of spending time with family, friends while doing things they enjoy.

The car discussion just plays into that. We all make do with what we have. Some of us are like lucky and work to be the Mercedes of agents in the office. I do quite well with my truck, but I know I have a different business model. It takes all sorts.

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#332233 - 03/22/10 08:49 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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Lucky to the rescue again with another wisecrack.

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#332241 - 03/22/10 09:31 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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Originally Posted By: lucky
Time for you to set some serious goals. $100k gross in a year is good if it were part time.

Originally Posted By: FSBO
100k in the first quarter? That would be a good year for me! Perhaps I will head to the BMW dealership...


Originally Posted By: Lucky
Earning $100,000 a year in real estate definitely does not take that much time. Let me illustrate what I mean with my 14 year old level of communication.


In who's market? Doesn't the average sales price of homes in a given area determine how much money a skilled full time agent would make?

What if someone sells 37 80,000 homes in Florida vs someone who sells 3 one-million dollar homes in Washington D.C. ...both agents probably grossed the same amount, assuming all the sales had the same commission (another factor to take into consideration)...but guess which one worked harder and probably knows more about real estate than the guy who sold only 3 homes?


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#332249 - 03/22/10 09:48 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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Originally Posted By: lucky
I suggest you spend some time reading and reflecting before posting. Let me illustrate what I mean with my 14 year old level of communication.

Originally Posted By: Doin' bpose
That would be like me telling you to set goals in giving constructive criticism. Your current level of skill is good for a 14 year old.


Good advice lucky. I will give it some thought. I appreciate the constructive criticism.

I must add I intend no offense to 14 year old kiddos. Mine younglings are not that old, but seem to behave as though they are.


Edited by Doin' bpose (03/22/10 09:53 PM)
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#332558 - 03/24/10 12:28 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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A car can say a lot about its driver in my mind. That is why I always try to keep my car looking clean and in good shape. Especially in the world of real estate where so many things are judged upon their initial appearance. It is important to keep up a professional image for yourself and your clients.



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#333669 - 04/02/10 06:20 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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This is true Perky. That's is whyi used the anology of a $5,000 average commission. I have agent friends from Fort Myers and Tampa Florida where many properties are under $100,000 as you stated. They choose to steer their prospecting to the higher end, into the $200's-$300's. As I illustrated above, $100,000 gross sales is not that difficult if one does a business plan breakdown, has some discipline, sets some goals. I had a new agent as an accountabilty partner a few years agowho was willing to learn an work and I guided him to a $240,000 income his second year. Of course, he used active marketing and went after it daily like I do.

Originally Posted By: Perky_REALTOR
Originally Posted By: lucky
Time for you to set some serious goals. $100k gross in a year is good if it were part time.

Originally Posted By: FSBO
100k in the first quarter? That would be a good year for me! Perhaps I will head to the BMW dealership...


Originally Posted By: Lucky
Earning $100,000 a year in real estate definitely does not take that much time. Let me illustrate what I mean with my 14 year old level of communication.


In who's market? Doesn't the average sales price of homes in a given area determine how much money a skilled full time agent would make?

What if someone sells 37 80,000 homes in Florida vs someone who sells 3 one-million dollar homes in Washington D.C. ...both agents probably grossed the same amount, assuming all the sales had the same commission (another factor to take into consideration)...but guess which one worked harder and probably knows more about real estate than the guy who sold only 3 homes?


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#333690 - 04/02/10 09:43 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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How does one "steer" a client preapproved for 100k to 200-300k homes?

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#333799 - 04/03/10 03:41 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: FSBO]
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You cannot steer that specific buyer but you can prospect the higher end in the areas, price range that you want and that is desirable and moving well.

Originally Posted By: FSBO
How does one "steer" a client preapproved for 100k to 200-300k homes?

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#333998 - 04/06/10 08:28 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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Regarding cars- I was driving the most horrid car- a Lincoln Town Car that was older, the air shocks in the rear were out ( whatever is back there at a cost of 1400 ) and so the rear end was a low rider and the wire wheel covers on one side were gone. I had joined an office that had a great presence in the high end, which was the market I wanted to get into at that time and was commuting to it. I didn't know my way around the community ( this was during the dot com craze ) and when those sweet little dot commer clients would come into town I would rent a car or I hired a driver/ town car that would pick us up and chaufer us around. There are probanly as many flaws to that as things that worked but it helped me tremendously in overcoming my shame about the car I drove in the market I was breaking into. I really couldn't afford it but I was working like a crazy girl going for broke and if it helped me overcome something that might have held me back, even if just mentally, it was worth it at the time.

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#334007 - 04/07/10 12:03 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Crazy 2]
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Last year in my MLS, over 1,100 homes sold that were under 300,000. Homes that were over 300,000? About 1% of that number...142.

Just sayin'.

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#336830 - 05/03/10 09:04 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Broker514]
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I drive an 04 Honda Civic with 170k miles...it's a little beat up too cause I have 2 kids and a dog and I'm not the world's greatest driver. BUT I LOVE THAT CAR! Never fails me and it is cheap and reliable. I was stressing a little because sometimes I'll pull up to a half mil house along side the owners nice new flashy cars. I really thought...man I need to have alittle flash...after a lot of thinking I've decided against it. I can afford a nice new flashy car...but it means nothing to me. I have yet to lose a listing for my little beater. In fact a few months ago I accidentally mowed down the mailbox with my little beater on my way out of a listing appointment. Got the listing anyway.
I wont let go of my baby until my son finally gets his license..and then I'll likely buy another 2-3 yr old Honda. A CRV this time though likely. I dont care how much money I have. Fancy cars mean nothing to me, and if my clients make their decisions about me, based on what I drive...well I don't want those clients anyway.

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#337179 - 05/06/10 07:43 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: minna]
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Hi everyone,

I am a new agent and here is my situation, your input is appreciated.

As a family with 2 children (1 year old and 7 year old), we have 2 cars:

Car #1: Audi A3 2010. Has the carseat in it. Purchase.
Car #2: VW Golf 2010. No carseat. Leased.

So, because of the carseat situation, last night at my first showings I drove the VW. My clients sat in the back. They are a young couple, so I didn't give the car thing too much thought.

On my way back home, I started to think about it...should I make the A3 my official real estate car...? My superficial side says ''take the A3 you dumba$$'', but my rational, down to earth side tells me ''don't change your family habits! the VW is fine!''.

Thoughts?

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#337183 - 05/06/10 08:34 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: MCP]
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I say concentrate on the client and what their interests are. Give them awesome solutions to help them get where they want to be. If you can do that, they won't care if you pull them to the houses in a wagon.

The last thing they are talking about when you leave is...Did you notice MCP's car? It had a car seat. Or it was an Audi.

If you load them with solid data to review and links to explore and resources to review and ideas to consider, the car is irrelavent, so long as there is a place for them to sit safely.

May I add........Good luck to you in your new career and with your young family.
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#337185 - 05/06/10 09:02 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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Do agents really drive their clients around much anymore anyway? I dont work with buyers except on very rare occasion but even then they meet me there...Even before I got licensed and I had buyers agents we never drove together.
Curious as to how many actually drive their clients around.

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#338900 - 05/23/10 07:42 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Don't be mistaken, the car you drive matters. The first image is what is important. If your are meeting people at the office, dress the part and have a clean work space. If your meeting them make sure your car is the same. It takes 27 positives to change a poor first impression. If you are selling a $150,000 house and you show up in a $100,000 car....bad move, same goes for the million dollar buyer/seller, show up in a brand new Kia and you'll have problems. I started 14 years ago with a Camaro as my Realtor car I now have a Land Rover and an Jeep Sahara. Depending on the client, I will decide the car for the day. That said buy used, the LR3 is a 60K car that looks the part that I bought a few years old for 20K. All you people that drive older cars, ever wonder why you nailed a listing presentation then didn't get the listing?

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#338973 - 05/23/10 09:10 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: grexley]
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On a related note, where is a good place to park when dropping in on a seller (either for the first time or on a follow up listing appointment)? Would it be considered overconfident and presumptuous to park right in front of their house (not in the drive way, of course) or should we pick a less imposing location across the street, a 1/2 block away, etc??

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#339000 - 05/24/10 06:26 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: seattleite]
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Don't discount use of the driveway. Blocking it is always helpful in keeping them there until you get their signatures.

I hate it when they try to leave during my Listing Presentation . . . . NO, we won't have any of that!

Of course, if you are the one who wants to make an early exit, having the car right there makes for a quick get-away.

I had one last Fall at a remote LakeFront Cottage, when the estranged Husband and Wife couldn't agree on an Asking Price and started getting physical in their argument, when suddenly, the Husband said maybe "I should go back to my Office while they 'think' about this."

I think the Wife was just using my presence there as a excuse for retrieving some of "her" possessions anyway, and not really to think about establishing an Asking Price. Besides she has a Cousin who's in Real Estate in New Jersey, and she'll know better.

Under those MadHouse circumstances, you won't have to ask me twice . . . . I was outta there in a flash, and really quite pleased that my car was conveniently parked right in the DoorYard. I guess they're still thinking.
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#339001 - 05/24/10 06:52 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Kalstar]
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All you people that drive older cars, ever wonder why you nailed a listing presentation then didn't get the listing?


I have only lost listings to agents who:

a) got there BEFORE me and ended up getting the seller to sign before he even met me or heard my plan...(that one ticked me off because I was minding my own business, didn't even KNOW the guy or that he wanted to sell his house and he called ME and asked me to come by Friday afternoon...he made the appointment with me, out of the blue. Then he has the nerve to cancel 2 hours before our appt. to say "Never mind, I went with the first agent instead. You could still come out and meet my wife and I though." Nice, thanks but no thanks. The sweet thing was I ended up selling that one...lol)

or

b) agents who promised more than the home was worth.

or

c) agents who cut their commission.

I have had more sellers call me out of the blue and tell me they wanted me to list their house because of my marketing. Not one, not even ONE... asked me a darn thing about my car. Maybe I should start screening them, asking them if they mind if I drive a Honda, or if I should lease a BMW for their benefit.

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#339016 - 05/24/10 08:58 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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I've said it before, but It's a Balancing Act . . . . if you look too successful or complacent, you may not appear to be the Go-Getter, or hungry enough to get the business. But if you're starting out and looking poor, dejected, and forlorn . . . . then you must be a failure.

Somewhere in between, there is just the right place (like the Porridge in Goldilocks and the Three Bears), and that point varies from Seller to Seller and Buyer to Buyer. If you can't fill your garage so as to provide for a full service repertoire, then go with the vehicle that matches the expectations of the greatest number of prospects . . . . it's a crap shoot!

And remember, some people need the fulfillment that comes with Participating in your Success. They want to feel that they haelped you climb that ladder.
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#339740 - 06/01/10 01:25 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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I really think though it depends on your market, your area.
You need to look like your client so he can identify to you and feel you are equal so you can understand him in this so big decision.

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#339762 - 06/01/10 04:08 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: sophieplaya]
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Yes exactly...though I deal with short sellers...I guess watching the aftermath of overconsumption and keeping up with the joneses has left its impression on me...to spend wisely. And for the person who said did you ever wonder why you lost a listing..(maybe it was the car)..I have yet to lose a listing to another agent. I have lost listings where they decided not to sell...so I can't say my 04 Civic is responsible.
Actually I did recently take a 600k listing - I pulled up and he parked behind me in his brand new beamer...I got a few extra questions ( was it the car...maybe...or maybe he was just an educated consumer) - still got that one too. But if I was dealing with the luxury market- I guess I would have to "look" luxury also.

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#340415 - 06/08/10 08:16 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: seattleite]
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Don't be mistaken, the car you drive matters. The first image is what is important. If your are meeting people at the office, dress the part and have a clean work space.


I don't drive a car, I drive a truck and it has been a great help to me and my clients. Everyone one of my clients knows that I am available to help them move and I have personally shown up to help them haul items away.

I'm one to think you can take any vehicle you drive and somehow make it work (well, except maybe an 18 wheeler). We've hauled off personal belongings, brush when they're cleaning the yard, etc. It just works and it further commits them to me as their Realtor.

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#340437 - 06/08/10 02:23 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: R. Danneskjold]
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I would say the best all purpose "Realtor car" is the Honda Element. 4 doors, no carpets, easy to maintain, great on gas, has a distinctive attention grabbing looks (some call that ugly), easy to get in and out of (for those older clients), it has all-time 4x4 and after all it's a Honda.

They look professional and a 2005 with 70-90K can be purchase for around $8,000.00. Being a Honda, one should expect an additional 50-100K reliable miles. A payment on $8000.00 for 48 months is around $185.00 per month and that is if you finance 100%.

Maybe I should go buy one!


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#340473 - 06/08/10 06:46 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Kalstar]
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It is ugly and I put that in the category with the Smart and Prius. If you live in yuppyville maybe but around here, you're likely to get ridden off the road or ridiculed.

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#340483 - 06/08/10 08:02 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: R. Danneskjold]
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I hate Elements.

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#340566 - 06/09/10 01:54 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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I'm driving an Audi A4 02' but am looking to get something newer and nice. Probably a VW CC 2010.

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#340730 - 06/10/10 10:41 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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Suuuuuure! 100%...... Will you be my mentor. I would say I am about 90%. Maybe the flashy car is killing me, 1 out of every 10 maybe it is my spelling, who knows?? Well atlease I get to play with nice cars while I lose commissions.

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#340885 - 06/12/10 02:54 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: bfisher88]
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If you deal with a wide range of price drive the car that fits the neighborhood the client is looking to buy in. One very good agency here has a pair of high end cars from the owner the agents can use if they need to show something upscale. Otherwise the jeep/honda suv is pretty common for the average home showing here.

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#340898 - 06/12/10 04:32 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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#340900 - 06/12/10 05:40 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: droll]
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Au is preferred. But Ag also works well for me. I'll also take Cu or Ni. H is good too, but I prefer a double. With an O backer.


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#340916 - 06/12/10 09:35 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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#341349 - 06/17/10 01:49 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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Hi, im new here, 1st post too. Please dont hate me and or judge me by this dumb imo 1st post :)

IMO vehicle matters. (most)Vendors are placing alot of trust in our hands and they want to feel good about their decisions as well. They can feel your confidence and charisma by the way you dress, speak and what you drive.
Having a better than average vehicle mentally speaks words.
Wearing a timex or an omega....same thing

Theres nothing wrong with driving a truck and helping your clients move and haul junk to the landfill, but it shows your level is closer to theirs, some vendors will like this as they have more in common with you, but imo again, we are professionals and nice material possessions come from making money and doing alot of deals.........and of course...time = money.....if im out helping a client do joe boy work....whos answering the phones, marketing and showing their house?

Honestly though, I dont even pay attention if anyone notices my vehicle or watches becaue its how I always dress.......for success

Once again, this was just my dumb opinion please dont have a bad 1st impression of me :P

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#341374 - 06/17/10 10:58 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: RE Rivo]
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but imo again, we are professionals and nice material possessions come from making money and doing alot of deals


I have to take exception to this. Nice material possessions can come from another source and often they do, it's called credit. Many people live above their means and Realtors are some of the worst at this. The short sale clients I work with are guilty of it as well. A Timex or an Omega can just as easily be put on Chase as a mortgage. The only difference is they don't foreclose on your Timex.

As far as marketing is concerned? Outsource. Answering phones? Outsource. Showing their home? Schedule it. Not everytime I'm helping a client did I have a conflict where I needed to show a home.

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#341432 - 06/18/10 12:49 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: R. Danneskjold]
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I guess some of the people who believe in the theory of having a nice vehicle would like to take a shortcut to the image
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but imo again, we are professionals and nice material possessions come from making money and doing alot of deals
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As far as marketing is concerned? Outsource. Answering phones? Outsource. Showing their home? Schedule it. Not everytime I'm helping a client did I have a conflict where I needed to show a home.
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#343141 - 07/06/10 03:26 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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This is a good topic and I have 2 sides of this to speak from. I used to drive a 2004 Ford F-250 Diesel Extended Cab Long Bed FX4 - bought it brand new with all the bells and whistles (won't ever do that again!). Wasn't doing real estate at the time, so I didn't buy it with that in mind. However, I did get back into real estate after I bought it, and I have to say that I got a lot of comments on it. Not always good. I'm not a "red neck", in fact I'm 5'4" and petite. This was always a problem for me gaining credibity with the client of higher-end properties, unless I was dealing with clients out in the country, and then I looked like I fit right in. It was also a problem for me getting older folks in and out of the thing because it sat so high. I traded that in back in 2008 for a 2002 Lexus LS430 with 65K miles on it, for less than 1/3 of what they run new. Can't see myself spending that kind of money on a new one when I have a great dealer in my area that sells stuff like this all the time - I can even put in an order for what I want and they'll hunt it down for me if I can't find it on my own. That was the best move I've made as far as real estate is concerned. I have no problem fitting into the most expensive neighborhoods, or the less expensive ones. The clients appreciate the fact that it's not brand new (although I've had clients tell me they thought it was new because it has been so well cared for). It's comfortable and the older folks have no problem getting in and out of it. Some folks look at it and tell me I must be doing really well to have that car - usually the ones that can't ever imagine themselves having one (I'm not a snob or an elitist by any stretch of the imagination because I come from humble beginnings, just saying it like I've experienced it). Anyway, I don't think you have to drive the most expensive thing out there, but what you drive can definately have an impact on your image. Been then, experienced that. As to your question about spending money when the vehicle you have serves the purpose - in this day and age, with the economy as uncertain as it seems to be, I'd maintain what I have even if I had to spend a little money on it. You never know when that extra 8-10K might come in handy. Makes better fiscal sense imho. :)

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#343306 - 07/08/10 10:00 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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I drive a Honda Odyssey Van. I love it! Clients have their own door, window, cupholder you name it.

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#344143 - 07/16/10 12:21 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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One solution, is to buy yourself a "future classic" - a something that shows you appreciate classic vehicles, yet they can be very affordable to buy and don't tend to depreciate much.

Examples such as muscle cars from the 60s and 70s, or many Benz or Jaguar models from the 80s or 90s certainly fall into this category.

You become a "collector" not a skint agent!

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#344343 - 07/17/10 01:59 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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In this business image is very important and part of that image is the car you drive.

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#344610 - 07/19/10 09:38 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Sally S]
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Just bought A New Car, a brand new Ford Flex! I hate spending money on a new car, since I know that it's not a good investment. However, it's also always very exciting to get a new car!

One of the great things about being in Real Estate is knowing that I'll be able to write off a good portion of the cost!

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#344612 - 07/19/10 09:42 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Kjmendy]
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I'm hoping to get a Honda Fit in a couple years. My Honda is good for at least another 100,000 or more miles. It may outlive me! LOL

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#344617 - 07/19/10 10:10 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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I'd buy another Civic if I didnt have the crazy yellow lab...but he needs to go to VT though! CRV! Once the wheels fall off my current civic or sonny gets his act together and gets it...its a race!

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#345160 - 07/24/10 09:47 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: minna]
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I picked up my new Ford Edge last night. I'm glad it was only a 3.5 day between purchase and pick up since the excitement sure builds up!

Now what I need to do is get some car magnets to start advertising on it.

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#345191 - 07/24/10 11:03 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Kjmendy]
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I'm hoping to get a Honda Fit in a couple years. My Honda is good for at least another 100,000 or more miles. It may outlive me! LOL


I just saw an accident this morning with one these small cars. The whole side was smashed. When the door was removed, the girl was not moving at all and her neck was in a weird position. It was a sick scene.

These cars scare me, they really do. We have a mini-van and a truck and I would not get anything smaller. I know I'm a good driver but everyone else on the road, I'm at their mercy. I feel much safer in a larger vehicle.

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#345228 - 07/24/10 03:07 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: R. Danneskjold]
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One of my favorite topics! I drive a 2007 Chevy Silverado extended cab pickup truck. Not your typical Realtor vehicle, but I bought it before I got into this business. I don't think I've ever lost a listing because of it and I know I've gotten at least two in rural areas. One seller said "I like an agent who doesn't have to drive a BMW to sell a house". Plus I list a lot of vacant land/acerage, so it is nice to have a 4WD on snowy days.

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#345290 - 07/25/10 08:58 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: jvcacc]
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After 22 years in this business, I discovered it doesn't much matter what make or model vehicle I drive because the former borrower has other things on their mind beside what car I drive. 230k miles and still still rolling on the sedan and the truck.
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#345315 - 07/25/10 01:12 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Retsof Yor]
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230k miles and still still rolling on the sedan and the truck.


That's great mileage. Love it!

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#346255 - 08/02/10 07:19 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Retsof Yor]
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Just blew the engine in the Geo pulling out of the driveway last month. 191K miles. Been driving it for 10 years. Body is still rolling strong and always maintained. With gas upwards of $3 bucks here, I figured it was worth the 2K for new engine and gave her another lease on life.

Last week I pulled into a driveway of a house to do an interior and while unlocking the door, a neighbor interrupted and asked if I needed help. I told her I was a realtor and she asked to see my business card. She said realtors usually don't drive cars like mine.
Thank goodness for that.

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#346260 - 08/02/10 08:53 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Traveler]
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Traveler, that is a great story abut the Geo. You will pay yourself back for that engine after 6 months of fill-ups. After that all the savings are gravy. I love it. I bet the Geo is great for business, striking up conversations with people.

Way to go.
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#346261 - 08/02/10 09:06 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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Seriously, I want a Honda motorcycle w/ 3 wheels. Those are fine looking machines.

I agree about the danger w/ small cars - it's true there isn't anything there really to protect you in an accident...they are probably only marginally safer than a motorcycle.

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#346387 - 08/03/10 06:23 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: R. Danneskjold]
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In this business image is very important and part of that image is the car you drive.


I am feeling even more vindicated. Read below or go to Thomas J. Stanley's blog. Check this out:

Quote:

Rich Or Drive Rich

People often contact me asking for special dispensation because they drive expensive prestige makes of motor vehicles. They maintain that this is an effective way to show others [especially prospective customers/clients] as well as themselves that they are successful. And every one of them tells me that they either got a great lease deal or purchased their motor vehicle at cost, at dealer's cost. . . . But should you be bragging about the deal you cut if you're driving around in $80,000 worth of sheet metal?

Sorry but I don't give special dispensation! I do tell these people, however, that 86% of those who drive prestige makes of motor vehicles are not millionaires [having an investment portfolio of $1M or more-see Stop Acting Rich]. Also, I mention the median price paid for the most recent motor vehicle purchased by a millionaire was $31,367 [for decamillionaires-$41, 997]. It is understandable why so many people relate wealth with the price tag of a motor vehicle. In a study of more than 2,000 respondents, The Wall Street Journal found that 35% believed that in order to qualify as being rich a person must drive a car that costs $75,000 or more. If I applied this $75,000 threshold to the millionaires whom I surveyed, more than 90% would fail to qualify.

I also mention the case studies about two decamillionaires who drive anything but prestigious automobiles. One of these men invented the "dumpster"; he drives a Honda Civic. In sharp conrast, a trial lawyer who works in Boston commutes everyday in his Ford 250 super duty pick-up truck. Clients judge his success on his track record in the courtroom, not on the basis of his choice of motor vehicle!

The key here is simple: focus your energy on becoming an economic success not on acquiring the pseudo symbols of success.


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#347637 - 08/12/10 02:29 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: R. Danneskjold]
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As dangerous as motorcycles can be, I want a Ural! Bonus points for rolling up on a client in one of these. Maybe with my Newfie in the sidecar?!

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#348082 - 08/16/10 10:22 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: pea]
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Drove a Porce Panamera yesterday and let me tell you - drives like a champ!!
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#348092 - 08/16/10 11:15 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: EricRE]
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Drove a Porce Panamera yesterday and let me tell you - drives like a champ!!


How could you?

Porsche

That is ALMOST as carelss as misspelling your wife's name.

Take a little more care next time, please.
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#348294 - 08/17/10 06:30 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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There is a realtor in Toronto that uses a bicycle, he
doesn't own a car. Often he has his buyers follow him
around on their own bicycles while showing houses, his clients like it because they get a better feel of the area.

Clever guy.


Edited by Hunter12 (08/17/10 06:42 PM)

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#348399 - 08/18/10 04:14 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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My normal set of wheels is a 2007 Dodge Charger. I bought it since it's big enough to carry five people comfortably...of course, the HEMI doesn't hurt either. ;) It looks good enough to show that I'm respectable, without being showy.

Still...the car that always impressed friends and clients alike was the bright red 1963 Cadillac I recently sold. People absolutely loved it: they wanted to ride in it, they told their friends about it. In retrospect, it was probably the most effective advertising I've ever done. Best of all, I paid less than $4000 for the car.

So yes, in my experience, a "good" car has nothing to do with cost, but rather everything to do with being memorable.

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#348406 - 08/18/10 05:28 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Andy Perkins]
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I'm looking to test drive the newer Maserati Gran Turismo....very sexy and definitely memorable. Too bad she doesn't perfom like my CLS 55 otherwise she'd be on my list.

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#348651 - 08/20/10 06:35 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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Lucky,

My mentor traded in his mini van for a high end luxury
car, he said he lost between 4-5 listing in one year
as a result of that car. Keep in mind his market was
the entry level price point.

Hunter.

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#349009 - 08/23/10 12:31 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: EXITREALTYNS]
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I think that's partially true. You don't have to drive around in a 7 series BMW to become a successful real estate agent. Yes to a certain degree it matters when you're dealing with high end homes, but more often than not, it comes down to your sales skills.
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#349115 - 08/23/10 06:41 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ajaych]
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Who would you rather hire for your company someone with Sales Skills or a person who does Massive, Massive prospecting. ( I enjoyed your online video's, thank you)

Hunter.


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#349761 - 08/28/10 05:41 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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I think as long as you have a well maintained car thats all that matters. Clients don't care if you drive a nice fancy car but if you drive up in a dirty beat up car it will help to kill your first impression.

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#350544 - 09/06/10 12:59 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: JLNorthOC]
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Wow! I can't believe this thread is still going strong! I remember posting on it back in 2007...a few cars ago! LOL
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#350716 - 09/08/10 11:05 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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Originally Posted By: Hunter12

Lucky,

My mentor traded in his mini van for a high end luxury
car, he said he lost between 4-5 listing in one year
as a result of that car. Keep in mind his market was
the entry level price point.

Hunter.


I could imagine that if, like you said, he was doing entry level housing. How many listings did your mentor do normally? Just curious as to how much affect it had on his business as a percentage...definitely have to keep in mind your clientelle when purchasing a car....would not drive a brand new $100,000 porche if my niche was selling $200,000 condos lol
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#350719 - 09/08/10 11:23 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: EricRE]
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porche


Porsche

It does matter.
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#350730 - 09/08/10 11:52 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: EricRE]
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Eric,

He always carried 20 listings and did 90 deals a year with
the help of a full time assistant. Now married with a family
he does around 50 deals a year, not sure how many listings
he carries at the moment. Yes, the high end car cost him
four listings in one year.

Hunter.

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#351924 - 09/20/10 05:50 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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I think you are missing the point. It's not what the car does for the client! It's what it does for your energy and enthusiasm. I just made $25,000 off a client who lived in a barn and earned less than $40k per year. 90% of sales is mental, attitude and enthusiasm. I don't believe that agent lost 1 single deal! He is just justifying/rationalizing his decision. His decision has cost him dozens of deals!

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#352060 - 09/21/10 08:21 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: lucky]
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I understand you first point, ie. show up on a Ducati 900ss, pop
a wheely in the clients driveway, jump of feeling full of energy
and enthusiasm.

Don't get your second point.


Edited by Hunter12 (09/21/10 08:22 PM)

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#352227 - 09/23/10 01:49 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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I actually just bought a new car. I was someone who only bought used cars and let other people take the hit on depreciation. My last few cars were chryslers, but this time I went with the new Taurus. My dad is retired from Ford so I got the a plan on it. It's the best car I have ever owned.

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#352571 - 09/28/10 12:42 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: bfisher88]
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Professionalism, trust, respect, credibility and dependability are all the goals we seek to convey. Thus clothes and cars impact the bottom line directly.

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#352675 - 09/29/10 12:16 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: 24/7 agent]
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I'm a bit attached to my car. I bought a g35 about 4 years ago but I never would have thought I would do so much driving around. I know having that car did not makes sense business wise but it's just been hard to get rid of. But I'm finally going to trade it in for a Nissan Sentra. Much more suitable.

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#354114 - 10/10/10 09:51 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Cool guy]
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My Hummer H3 was my graduation present from High School in 2009. I just recently paid it off, but I'm still trying to decide whether or not to actually trade it in. I'm looking at getting an Audi A4..probably an 07 or 08.

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#354594 - 10/14/10 01:42 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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oh goodie! I looove my car. :)

Red Miata convertible with hardtop. Butterscotch leather interior.

I think my License plate says it all: EXALT
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#354862 - 10/17/10 08:19 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: WorkitSmart]
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Five years ago I had this British couple in their mid forties buy a listing of mine for $1,256.000, it was a "Grand Old Dame" but in need of major work. They had contractors work on it full time for two years. They are still driving the same car they had five years ago, a green Chevy Cavalier four door. (One of the
cheaper cars made buy Chevy or GM, not sure which)


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#354869 - 10/17/10 09:21 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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Originally Posted By: Hunter12
Five years ago I had this British couple in their mid forties buy a listing of mine for $1,256.000, it was a "Grand Old Dame" but in need of major work. They had contractors work on it full time for two years. They are still driving the same car they had five years ago, a green Chevy Cavalier four door. (One of the
cheaper cars made buy Chevy or GM, not sure which)
You double ended your million dollar listing, eh? Wow! Tell us more. I think GM makes the Chevy Cavalier.
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#354872 - 10/17/10 10:10 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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Yikes, I'm not good with a pen. It was my listing that this couple bought through another agent. Yes my biggest check ever in 20 or so years. I worked on securing it for about a year. The old lady who passed away put instructions in her will that I had to be the agent to handle it. I didn't know this so I wine and dined the executor of the estate her son for one year.
Spent a fair amount of money and late eveings, he knew the whole time that they were forced to use me but played with me.
He told me at the end and had a big laugh, the son is poor and
has kids so I didn't mind too much, they don't get to go out much.

I met the mother while cold calling, the neighbor had died and had given her home to my client.(she could not get insurance due to the age of wiring, roof..,so I arranged everything for her. I sold it for her and that was
the beginning of our relationship. She was an amazing lady and we stayed in
touch for year.

The family invited me to her funeral, we had become good friends.


Edited by Hunter12 (10/17/10 10:33 PM)

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#354874 - 10/17/10 10:26 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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What an amazing tale that is.

Come to think of it...it reminds me...I saw Froy today at the farmers' market of all places. He was teaching the produce crew (and anyone else who wanted to participate) how to juggle apples. It was spectacular. I think he did a dozen. Mike Ferry was there rooting him on jotting down the phne numbers of the would-be jugglers. By the end of the whole thing, they had cracked into the gallon sized cider jugs and were playing their favorite college football fight songs by using the scales as bongo drums. It was a sight to behold. I bet he gets some business out of that episode.


Edited by Doin' bpose (10/17/10 10:36 PM)
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#354885 - 10/18/10 05:00 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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A year later one of the sons used his inheritance to buy a bungalow through me for $320.000.00, His name is Ed and he
has a very small mortgage, he owns a beautiful 8mm Mauser rifle with original
German markings that he wont sell. I thought if I found him a great house
he might part with it.

From age sixteen my mother used to drop me of at different homes to do here open houses on the weekends, she had too many. She was a big producer who worked all the time seven days a week. When I started in the business age 25 or 27 cant remember she bought me a set of Mike Ferry's Tapes and told me to door knock for 3 hours a day.

Are you calling me a liar?


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#354892 - 10/18/10 08:24 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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No, liar is your choice of words. The thought crossed my mind you might be floating some Bravo Sierra though.
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#354896 - 10/18/10 08:49 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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The point of the original post was these people drive a modest
car and live in a grand home. It had nothing to do with my pay check. Many people live beyong their means and drive cars they
cannot afford. It's all an illusion.

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#355069 - 10/19/10 05:35 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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I'm perfectly happy with my Nissan Versa. Functional and just not-lame enough.
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#355226 - 10/21/10 12:20 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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I've always disliked this part of the business, but it's a necessary one. Having a nice car is important when making a first impression. For that reason, I've always leased so that I can constantly trade up to the latest and greatest. Not something I'm a big fan of, but it's much cheaper (and easier) than buying and selling every year.
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#355578 - 10/25/10 10:43 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: jasedona]
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I tend to get a new car every couple or several years, but only because I'm an autophile and like having different toys.

However...I still disagree that having the "latest and greatest" is a must. The correct car will leave an impression of success for many years. My friend drives a well-maintained, 20-year-old Mercedes S-class when he's on the clock. His theory is that it's reassuring to clients because it exclaims "old money," which in turn implies he's enjoyed success in real estate for a long time.

The reality is he's only been in the field for a few years, and he bought the car used...but I actually like that approach. Certainly saves you having to continually pay for the depreciation on a brand-new car.

From a business perspective, consider your return on investment: A $500 monthly payment for a new luxury car would mean I need to close an extra sale every year just to make that payment. How many of us can be certain that we score one sale per year as a direct result of our having that brand-new car? I can think of much better ways to spend that money if your intent is to build your business.

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#355885 - 10/28/10 04:06 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Andy Perkins]
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I'm on board with your buddy, bought my car new in 1992, currently have 356,000 km, still love it to bits, women have come and gone but not by car, we still get along brilliantly.

Clients comments, your car is immaculate, you drive a classic,
some are speechless. green people say good for you. My office
parking lot is full of high end leased European cars, mine was
paid of in 1995.

Engine blew up at 302,000 km so I had it rebuilt, has only
let me down once, paint is original. The thought of giving up
on it was not an option. Average monthy maintenance is $80/month.

Next car will be a used Smart Fortwo with GSXR 1000 engine conversion or I'll put a Honda Civic engine in it, the latter will be better for a daily driver, my mechanic can get illegal emmisions test done so I'm good to go, plus the Honda transmission has a reverse gear which makes life easier than the Suzuki engine. I've owned many motorcycles so this car with hopefully fill my need for a bike and the necessity of a car, it will be a a very fast Go-Cart. (a guy in
England put a Toyota MR11 engine in his Smart, the conversion was a success, not cheap though but friggen fast.


It will be very hard to part with my current car and may never happen.



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#356144 - 10/29/10 06:39 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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i have been doing this since 1989 and probably could have bought quite a few mercedes with the money i lost because i didnt have a fancy car. the public expects successful agents to have expensive cars.

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#356145 - 10/29/10 07:04 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Temeculaproperty]
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My next car will probably be another Honda van. Once the kids are out of the house I will get something fun and cute. But for the next 8 years or so I am stuck w/ being practical.

In my neck of the woods, the public expects agents to know what they're doing. I've sold expensive homes to people in cars worth 5 of mine - they didn't care. What they cared about was that I knew what I was doing and was able to help them get their house purchased without stress or incident.

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#356159 - 10/29/10 09:15 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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If you need a fancy car to score clients, perhaps it's time to work on your sales pitch.

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#356253 - 10/31/10 03:18 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Andy Perkins]
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Wonder how Earl Nightingale's theory of look at what other agents
are doing and do the 180 degree opposit would apply when dealing
with what car to drive.

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#356389 - 11/01/10 06:28 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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2010 VW Routan with the entertainment package and I don't have any kids. But when you're selling residential real estate in a family-oriented community you just kind of have to go with it.

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#359458 - 12/03/10 12:59 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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I counldn't agree more. Knowledge is more rewarded in my neck of the woods as well. Maybe it's just me, but if I was the home buyer/seller, I would think that the realtor in the fancy car can afford that car because of all the money he/she is making off of people like me! This wouldn't create any warm and fuzzy feelings for me.

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#359527 - 12/04/10 05:31 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Allison Ables]
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Originally Posted By: Allison Ables
2010 VW Routan with the entertainment package and I don't have any kids. But when you're selling residential real estate in a family-oriented community you just kind of have to go with it.



The families I work with usually have a baby seat in their car and are so
dam busy the husband and wife are both coming from different directions and
are often heading of in diferent directions after looking at homes. I hardly
ever carry anybody in my car except for my wife. A two door car wouldn't be
a liability when working in a big city.

I discourge clients from jumping into my car by putting a plastic snake on all
passenger seats. It is very hard to drive safely and navigate when a client want to know what you think of the price of the last home you just looked at.
This is dangerous for a person with a brain the size of mine.


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#360031 - 12/09/10 09:06 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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First impressions are everything. I think people do judge you by what you drive, as much as I hate to admit it. Some of my high dollar clients have told me they didn't hire the last guy because he drove up in a '87 Honda.



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#360038 - 12/09/10 10:46 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Regenscheid]
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Sitting in the computer room last year when I overheard two very good agents talking, both grossed over 120k, lease high end cars and it was tax season, they looked at each other in Fear and said "were did it all go". They had no money left to pay their taxes and were very scared. I like both of these agents
and felt badly for them.


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#360039 - 12/09/10 10:58 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Regenscheid]
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Originally Posted By: Regenscheid
First impressions are everything. I think people do judge you by what you drive, as much as I hate to admit it. Some of my high dollar clients have told me they didn't hire the last guy because he drove up in a '87 Honda.

This very argument has been made before in this thread. I think the counter argument is that there are just as many people who do not appreciate flash and do not judge a book by it's cover. Some buyers are turned off or intimidated by a fancy car. So it comes down to which type of business you want to run and what type of clients you want to solicit.



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#360042 - 12/09/10 11:35 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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[quote=Doin' bpose][quote=Regenscheid]First impressions are everything. I think people do judge you by what you drive, as much as I hate to admit it. Some of my high dollar clients have told me they didn't hire the last guy because he drove up in a '87 Honda.

[/quote] This very argument has been made before in this thread. I think the counter argument is that there are just as many people who do not appreciate flash and do not judge a book by it's cover. Some buyers are turned off or intimidated by a fancy car. So it comes down to which type of business you want to run and what type of clients you want to solicit.

[/quote]

Like all things I think that there is a happy medium when it comes to agents cars. Unless you are focused on high end clients you do not need to be always driving brand new high end cars. Personally I think that you cannot go wrong driving a newer mid model Ford or GM.

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#360165 - 12/10/10 02:32 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ByHomeOwner]
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I will be driving a 2005 Nissan Altima 2.5s. Looks nice, good on gas an lots of room for 4 adults. Will post pics when I quit my old job and begin my new career :)


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#361347 - 12/20/10 11:16 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Brantford Guy]
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I just got my new Mercedes C300, it feels great to have a new car! It was hard to let go of my '99 Saab, but after 207k miles it was time. I leased the Mercedes for a great deal, no extras but it sure looks nice.

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#361374 - 12/21/10 07:49 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: zpcsc]
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You deserve it Zoila . . . . you work hard.

What's the annual mileage allowance on that C300 ?

I got 307,000 miles out of a Saab 9000 before it had to be retired.
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#361375 - 12/21/10 07:52 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Vermont]
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Hey everybody, I'm new to real estate, I'm actually in the car business right now if you have any questions feel free to ask away.

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#361426 - 12/21/10 02:05 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: atrott]
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#361690 - 12/24/10 07:02 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: zpcsc]
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Congrats, Zolla...

I know how it feels to give up an old ride that fits like a glove. I placed myself in a position of driving my Lexus almost 220K miles to the end of its mechanical ability without putting more money into it than its worth.

So I start the new year coming by having traded in the Lexus to get a new 2011 with more room, comfort, electronics and better looking sheet metal. All in all a better value with wrap around service and warranty agreements to 125k.

The only thing is, it was not as exciting/thrilling as it was before when I was younger buying and getting a new car...just another task I had to do. I am appreciative of the way the dealership and I agreed as it took longer to test drive the vehicle than it did transact the purchase and no hammer was involved.
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#362343 - 01/04/11 09:45 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: ReoSam]
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I drive an Acura TL, my second one. I love it, so do my passengers.

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#363021 - 01/11/11 01:32 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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People do judge you by your car...If you think otherwise then you are mistaken..You don't need to drive a lexus or a benz..people judge that too.. besides having a car payment creates tax writeoffs for your real estate business... When I buy a car I take price vs. economy into effect....You have to get good gas mileage if you don't want to be screwed at the pump..


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#363219 - 01/12/11 08:38 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: MVegasRealtor]
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Right now, I'm driving a 2001 Saturn 4-door-paid for. Previously a 1998 Saturn 4-door-paid for. Before that a 1994 Saturn-paid for. I have been driving 2nd-hand cars and I'm loving it. Cash-paid for! Leasing is not a smart move (who here watches Suse Orman). You can't drive a clunker but you don't have to spend BIG bucks - good Lord. Unless you're selling $1million+ homes ALL the time. Wouldn't you rather have that money in your bank account than the tax write-off? A car is the worst depreciating asset in the world (well, other than real estate in some parts of the country right now).

Course, I don't really care because if someone (client) made a comment, a not-nice comment, do you know what my comment back would be? "Guess how much money I've got in the bank."

Do you know anyone on the east coast but not in salt or snow country that has a Saturn Vue - the lastest model for sale? Now, that's what I wanted next but the Saturns are gone now...sigh.

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#363225 - 01/12/11 09:46 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: VABroker]
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Well, I'm still driving that 2003 medium metallic blue Chevy Tahoe that I bought new in Aug. 2003. Best car I have ever owned. Turned over 100,000 miles back in May. Runs like a champ.

I don't haul around buyers very often - usually meet them at the location I'm showing. But, if I'm showing a handful, we will take mine or theirs, whichever they prefer. smile

I am not into new construction homes or high-end customers. Nothing wrong with those, just not my niche. I am into working class people who have saved up some money and/or cleaned up their credit who are now buying their first or second house. They give me a nice, warm feeling inside. I don't make a lot of money on those types of commissions, but I'm not going hungry & the bills are getting paid -- and I have plenty of rental income, so I'm fine with that.
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#365481 - 02/01/11 08:12 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: barb43]
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I drive a 2008 BMW X6 when I am showing nice properties. If I'm going out to show some junkers I will drive my 2003 dodge ram.

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#365629 - 02/03/11 12:15 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Jason Painter]
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I drive a silver 2004 Jaguar X-type. I think it is a great RE car...4-door but somewhat sporty. The bottom line is that it is paid for.

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#365672 - 02/03/11 01:21 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: iRealEstateGirl]
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I have to agree with the posters about what type of business you're conducting should dictate what type of car you drive. I mean, literally... if you're showing and contracting high end properties - you can not only afford the high end car, but your clients might expect that. If you're showing first time home buyers around, you might intimidate them with a flashy car. It's all a balance!
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#365678 - 02/03/11 02:30 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: bonhamsurf]
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The high end buyer could well have come from middle class parents and wouldn't have a problem with a Camry or Accord.
It's what he grew up with.

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#368657 - 03/01/11 11:41 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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I completely agree. I drive a 2011 VW CC, and not only does it look good to the client, it gives me a little boost of confidence.

Cars have been a social symbol for a long time, and while it may be shallow to care about such things, people who have responded before me are right, clients care about that, first impressions are everything.

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#368896 - 03/03/11 10:49 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: HeidiNeil]
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My next Realtor-mobile is at this moment on a transport carrier on its way to me from St. Louis: a baby blue 1964 suicide-door Lincoln Continental.

Mechanically and cosmetically immaculate, very distinctive in appearance, and--of significant importance--a fraction of what a new car would cost. Better yet, even after I've loaded some miles onto the car, I'll still be able to sell it in a few years without losing so much as a dime in value.

Constantly throwing money away on brand-new cars is just silly in my opinion.

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#368901 - 03/03/11 12:02 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Andy Perkins]
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Originally Posted By: Andy Perkins
My next Realtor-mobile is at this moment on a transport carrier on its way to me from St. Louis: a baby blue 1964 suicide-door Lincoln Continental.Mechanically and cosmetically immaculate, very distinctive in appearance, and--of significant importance--a fraction of what a new car would cost. Better yet, even after I've loaded some miles onto the car, I'll still be able to sell it in a few years without losing so much as a dime in value.

Constantly throwing money away on brand-new cars is just silly in my opinion.
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#368928 - 03/03/11 05:33 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Andy Perkins]
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Such a classic. Is it a hard top or a convertible?

Personally, more a fan of the hardtops. I don't know why, especially living in California. I just tend to like hard tops more. The only example of a convertible I like more than the hardtop is the Jaguar E-Type.

I'm a big fan of driving clean old cars too.

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#368934 - 03/03/11 06:03 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: patrickhake]
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Originally Posted By: patrickhake
Such a classic. Is it a hard top or a convertible?

It could be "both" because in that time period, I think that Ford Motor still offered what was called a "Hard Top Convertible" with the "Hard Top" mechanically lifted and stowed away in the trunk . . . . at least on Thunderbirds, Lincolns, Mustangs, Cougars and some big Fords.

An expensive contraption in its time, but fun to watch . . . . and something else to go wrong. I don't think any other manufacturer ever offered that feature.
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#368936 - 03/03/11 06:07 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: patrickhake]
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Thanks, Doin'. Patrick, I've always loved convertibles, but this one's a hardtop. The lines on the hardtop Conti do look a little classier than the convertible in my opinion. I wasn't even looking for a Lincoln but I happened to run across it online and it met all my specs for both condition and price, so I said what the heck and bought it.

In general, I think convertibles look better than the hardtops when the top is down...but the hardtops always look better than the convertibles when the top is up. My next classic is going to be a Cadillac convertible (yes, I like my classics enormous and cushy), but I just couldn't find one I really liked in my price range this time around.

By the way, one very nice intangible factor of riding around in an old car is that it's a total conversation magnet. When I had my last car (a '63 Caddy hardtop coupe), people used to stop and talk to me all the time. And car shows/cruise nights can be great ways to meet and casually converse with large numbers of people (i.e., potential leads).

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#368968 - 03/04/11 04:56 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Andy Perkins]
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One of my old cars that fits in the "wish I still had it" category is a 1958 Chevy convertible. That was the year they had a rounded looking rear fender (earlier were more pointy and in 1959 they looked like wings). Of course I beat the hell out of it and then got a 1962 MGB convertible.
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#368974 - 03/04/11 06:54 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: PA Roadkill]
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#368998 - 03/04/11 09:52 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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#369852 - 03/15/11 08:02 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Old but trusty, miserly & dependable in a diesel. E 300D Mercedes Benz.
If you've ever been to Europe they use these almost exclusively as taxi's. I put 1,200 mile per week on this car. It currently has 192,000.

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#370413 - 03/21/11 08:26 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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lol, true it is hard, navigating, driving, listening & dont forget the kids yelling....memories

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#370566 - 03/23/11 12:11 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Right now, I'm driving a blue Ford Expedition. I love it for many reasons... #1, it's blue (fav color), #2, it's paid for, #3, I have 3 young children and it's perfect for them and #4, it's huge so everyone stays outa my way!

However, I want my biz to grow, so once I have some extra cash, I think I want to buy a used, of course, luxury car...maybe a BMW...for work only. Not too fancy, and older, so $500K+ clients are impressed enough, but lower end clients aren't intimidated...

How's that?

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#370727 - 03/25/11 05:20 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: cmyers]
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[quote=cmyers]Right now, I'm driving a blue Ford Expedition. I love it for many reasons... #1, it's blue (fav color), #2, it's paid for, #3, I have 3 young children and it's perfect for them and #4, it's huge so everyone stays outa my way!

However, I want my biz to grow, so once I have some extra cash, I think I want to buy a used, of course, luxury car...maybe a BMW...for work only. Not too fancy, and older, so $500K+ clients are impressed enough, but lower end clients aren't intimidated...

How's that? [/quote]

It seems like the right car would be where its nice enough for your clients to respect you, but not too nice that they resent you.

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#371735 - 04/05/11 04:27 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: cmyers]
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Right now, I'm driving a blue Ford Expedition. I love it for many reasons... #1, it's blue (fav color), #2, it's paid for, #3, I have 3 young children and it's perfect for them and #4, it's huge so everyone stays outa my way!

However, I want my biz to grow, so once I have some extra cash, I think I want to buy a used, of course, luxury car...maybe a BMW...for work only. Not too fancy, and older, so $500K+ clients are impressed enough, but lower end clients aren't intimidated...
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We have an '07 Toyota Sienna and an '08 Corolla, both are ours (paid off), and I'm in a similar situation - 3 small kids, so there isn't much I can do with the Sienna...

however, once I start working and make some money I will look into getting a nicer car for work, but that likely won't happen for a while, too many other priorities, so I'm going to hope that the clients I will work with won't care so much for a van... I also think it would be nice for showings if there are kids involved, as I can fit 8 people in my van...

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#372817 - 04/15/11 02:40 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Infiniti G35. Bare bones model. Fits the "luxury" car for those looking for it without the stereotype of other luxury brands

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#372871 - 04/16/11 08:19 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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I was in with my Mechanic this week, getting a front wheel hub/bearing replaced on my Volvo. While there, a woman arrived, white as a sheep, saying that she needs to trade in her SmartCar. I thought it might be that she tired of driving with her face right up against the windshield; but it was something a bit more sinister than that. My Mechanic runs a used car dealership as well as fixing vehicles, so I listened in to the conversation. Here's one of those SmartCars:



The frantic woman had bought the Smart Car last Summer; but hadn't driven it in inclement weather until this month. These cars might get good fuel mileage; but they're lacking a bit in aerodynamics . . . . and when the wind was blowing at 30 miles across the interstate, this woman said her car was pushed right off the road !

She limped back to town driving at less than 25 MPH, terrified of every little gust of wind that wrestled control of her car out of her hands. She wanted to leave the vehicle right there and get my Mechanic to drive her home.

After she had been taken home, we discussed the need for some kind of vehicle that has the same fuel economy as the SmartCar but is perhaps a bit more streamlined, presenting less lateral surface to the wind, thereby resisting its force and enabling it to cut through the air more like a jet fighter . . . . maybe a little something like:
The Smorvettee
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#372875 - 04/16/11 08:50 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Vermont]
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Vermont,


Most North American's couldn't squat low enough to climb
into your Smorvette without something going snap crackle
pop.

This smart will kill your creation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teLFxcxQjlY


I'm 6.2 and have tons of room in the Smart Fortwo.

A 62 year old gent in my office drives his Smart each
weekend up to his cottage and has no issues at all. He
also owns a large Mercedes SUV. It's a 2 hour highway
drive and this man is very wealthy.

What I can say is driving as a passenger with my wife is
deeply disturbing.

Maybe this women should learn how to drive.

If you have travelled to a major European city you will
have new appreciation for the Smart Fortwo.


Edited by Hunter 30-06 (04/16/11 08:52 AM)

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#372890 - 04/16/11 10:36 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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True, some do prefer that European mystique, like they might find in:

A Smorsche



Or, with a little more operational economy:

A Smamborghini !



Some might say that the air foil of a convertible destroys its fuel efficiency; but I kind of like this Smerrari !
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#372896 - 04/16/11 11:48 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Vermont]
Hunter 308 Offline
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Vermont is a dreamer which is wonderful.

Here is a photo of him heading out to inspect
homes like a good diligent agent. Oh, his nickname
is Mad Dog, most of you didn't know this other side
of him. I guess this is to offset his penchant for
driving his Tuk Tuk side saddle even though he doesn't
wear a skirt, kinda feminin but hey what do I know about
driving a Tuk Tuk as I don't live in America.

http://self-preservationsociety.blogspot.com/2007/11/thai-die.html

The scary thing is with the powers that be trying to destroy
the US dollar/America this could well be America's future family auto.


Edited by Hunter 30-06 (04/16/11 11:58 AM)

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#372899 - 04/16/11 12:29 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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The funny thing is, Smart Cars are a lot more prevalent in Europe, especially in France and Germany, They work fine if all you're doing is driving around the city, but have to be hellish on the Autobahn at 110 kph or on the unlimited parts.

But then, gas in Eurpoe was about $1.30 per litre last Summer, which converted to gallons and American dollars was probably close to $7.25 per gallon (3.875 litres per gallon times $1.875 per litre).

Americans don't know how spoiled they are.
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#372919 - 04/16/11 07:20 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: PA Roadkill]
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Your math isn't good, last year I rented a Opel Corsa
in Germany, benzene(petrol) was 128 Euro per liter.
That's around $180 US dollars per liter. The US dollar
is falling like a rock so my figures are dated as I
type.

http://www.carsmatch.net/2011/04/opel-corsa-opc-nice-view/


Edited by Hunter 30-06 (04/16/11 07:45 PM)

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#372921 - 04/16/11 07:45 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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There is a silliness about the Smartfortwo. I assume the attraction is the mileage (what else could it be?) I don't think the mileage is much to write home about.
Fuel economy (MPG): 33 city / 41 highway

Granted these two cars below are inferior in mileage a little, they have room for a soda can and a briefcase and offer a little more safety in terms of a shell. I am not owner of either, but unless you think the SFT will help your business as a unique tag, then I fail to see the appeal.

Mini Cooper 28 City
32 Combined
37 HWAY

Ford Focus
City (MPG) 22 - 27
Highway (MPG) 37

If mileage is really the goal wouldn't you go with a Toyota Prius?

City (MPG) 51
Highway (MPG) 48

Vehicle Disclosure
truck averages about 19 MPH
jeep averages about 22 MPH
suburban averages about 16 MPH


Edited by Doin' bpose (04/16/11 07:49 PM)
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#372923 - 04/16/11 08:00 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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You are missing the whole point of the Smart car, remember being pushed down a hill in a soap box/go cart and the beautiful feeling of being alive. The Smart is a go cart and you will wake up and feel alive while behind the wheel (no matter how young you wife is she cant compete), the years
will peel away from you. The Germans are not dummy's.

Vermont the dreamer, America's future could well be similar
to Amsterdam's and bicycles will be the norm. The trend has
already started with Navawreck riding his bike to work. And
this has nothing to do with his Drinking Under The Influence
Charge that is still in the courts. The honest truth is the
monkey cant afford to drive.


Edited by Hunter 30-06 (04/16/11 08:04 PM)

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#372924 - 04/16/11 08:08 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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Originally Posted By: Hunter 30-06
You are missing the whole point of .....
Guilty as charged.
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#372926 - 04/16/11 08:20 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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Ach So, the people riding around on camels in America stole your auto.


Edited by Hunter 30-06 (04/16/11 08:21 PM)

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#372943 - 04/17/11 05:15 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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Originally Posted By: Hunter 30-06
Your math isn't good, last year I rented a Opel Corsa
in Germany, benzene(petrol) was 128 Euro per liter.
That's around $180 US dollars per liter. The US dollar
is falling like a rock so my figures are dated as I
type.

http://www.carsmatch.net/2011/04/opel-corsa-opc-nice-view/

Not trying to be snarky, but I stated a price per gallon, not per litre. You have to read (and comprehend) the entire post. We Americans haven't converted to the metric system yet.
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#372946 - 04/17/11 07:01 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: PA Roadkill]
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Roadwarrior,

Fiat has a new small car for North Americans:

http://autos.sympatico.ca/automotive-news/6909/2011-fiat-500-just-15-995-in-canada/2

It's not about the gas milleage, the point is to make
sure your clients don't want to drive with you. Way to hard
to talk real estate and figure out were you are going at the
same time, plus you dont want to drive into someone.

Have you driven a Smart? It's fun, that is the whole idea.

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#375537 - 05/11/11 07:21 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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I have a small car I drive around most everyday that gets great gas mileage. When I am taking a client out Ill take my wives newer Tahoe.

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#377371 - 05/29/11 03:20 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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With gas prices these days, I drive my Ford Escape a lot less. My wife has a Ford Fusion. That is what I drive as often as I can.

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#378116 - 06/05/11 06:17 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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I drive a 99 ford escort and I am 6'3 280lbs and I drive this for the gas mileage, yes I could be in a little nicer car but I deal with first time home buyers and middle class folks and a cheap car seems to work for me.
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#379949 - 06/18/11 09:39 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Doin' bpose]
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Originally Posted By: Doin' bpose
There is a silliness about the Smartfortwo. I assume the attraction is the mileage (what else could it be?) I don't think the mileage is much to write home about.
Fuel economy (MPG): 33 city / 41 highway...


Keep in mind too that the 2011 model requires premium gas. So even the fuel economy is skewed.

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#379974 - 06/18/11 11:02 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Alabama Homes]
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Originally Posted By: Alabama Homes
I drive a 99 ford escort and I am 6'3 280lbs and I drive this for the gas mileage, yes I could be in a little nicer car but I deal with first time home buyers and middle class folks and a cheap car seems to work for me.
I am a major fan of the Escort. I drove one until about 6 years ago. I did not care for the automatic seatbelt, but I loved the milege, I swear it was 30 or 32. Even when the ac crapped out on mine I drove it to for doin' bpose since it doubled the mileage of my truck at the time, which was an 8 banger. The escrot was easy to work on, quick, and responsive. It raised few eyebrows going in for the shoot.

Quote:
Originally Posted By: Doin' bpose
There is a silliness about the Smartfortwo. I assume the attraction is the mileage (what else could it be?) I don't think the mileage is much to write home about.
Fuel economy (MPG): 33 city / 41 highway...

Then Sally S wrote
Keep in mind too that the 2011 model requires premium gas. So even the fuel economy is skewed.
Thanks Sally--you are totally right-I did not know that. A not so good deal just got worser.er..ererer.


Edited by Doin' bpose (06/18/11 11:06 AM)
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#382135 - 07/06/11 04:28 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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This was very insightful. I have been car shopping for the past 3 weeks...

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#382536 - 07/11/11 03:27 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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car shown your status so go with new car..i am car loving person i go with new car every year

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#382801 - 07/13/11 10:13 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Dheeraj]
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Originally Posted By: Dheeraj
car shown your status so go with new car..i am car loving person i go with new car every year


If you're getting a brand new car every year, I'm assuming you are leasing them then? What type of cars you driving? Favorite brand?
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#383404 - 07/18/11 01:16 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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here I live and breathe the internet, but just now found this website, very good information here...

regarding cars and IMHO, or maybe I am just different then most people: if someone tells me they are successful at what they do, and they pull up in a 15 year old car that barely runs, I have a hard time believing it. I think someone else hit the nail on the head though... I think peoples respect of an agent at first meeting comes from not only the car they drive, but how articulate they are about real estate....not just one or the other. But first impressions are the most important.


I never buy new, but I do buy only luxury cars. I wait 2-3 years, purchase used for 40% off list price with only 30-35k miles on them. This has worked out well for me. What am I driving right now? An Infiniti M45 I picked up 3 years old with 35k miles on it. My wife drives an Acura MDX we picked up 3 years old with 45k miles on it. We picked up both for less then half what they are going for new. We then maintain them meticulously and usually sell when they hit 300k miles. My last BMW 535i I sold after I hit 320k miles and 90% of people couldn't believe I had that many miles on it.

Both the Infinit and the Acura have been bulletproof.

Here's how I try to look at things: If all things being equal, one real estate agent pulled up in a nice luxury car and another pulled up in a 10 year old Ford, which would most people figure is the most successful? Perception is reality.
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#383432 - 07/18/11 04:54 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Sorry to jump in late here and not read all the pages but whats the concensus on larger rims???? Ok??

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#383472 - 07/19/11 12:30 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Larger rims may make you appear to be a drug dealer or a pimp. Do you really need rims that may be worth more than your clients car?

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#383599 - 07/19/11 09:22 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: bsareo]
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[quote=bsareo]Larger rims may make you appear to be a drug dealer or a pimp [/quote]

If this is your target market, then this should be fine.

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#385700 - 08/06/11 08:06 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Steely Dan]
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VaBroker,

I haven't bought a "brand new" in years - 20 years. No one knows I haven't bought "new" cars. I like to let someone else pay for the immediate de-valuing when they drive off the lot.

Before you do anything, read The Millionnaire Next Door. Surely, your local library has it - no need to purchase it.

This is one of the best posts, people who have lots of money work friggen hard and don't spend a penny. It's going to be
intereting to see what people will be driving after the government planned AUSTERITY MEASURES.


Edited by Hunter 308 (08/06/11 08:08 AM)

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#385734 - 08/06/11 07:46 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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Hunter - you pulled my comments from The Ultimate Realtor Car.

Depending on whether I get to keep my money or the government TAKES more of it - I'll still buy used and cheap.

Brother-in-law is into fixing cars (he runs a business). He picked a 2001 Saturn (that I drive now) and it only had 43,000 miles on it! Until he finds me something a little bigger (I'd like a Saturn Vue), I'll keep what I've got.

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#385736 - 08/06/11 09:18 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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I just traded in my 2003 Pontiac Vibe with 280000 miles, for a 2011 Kia Forte, the first non-American car I have ever owned (yes, I know that the Vibe was a Toyota Matrix with Pontiac badging, but you know what I mean). We bought it brand new, with 16 miles on the odometer. If you can change oil, I recommend buying new. I've owned lots of cars, mostly used, some new. I take good care of all of them. The new cars have all, without exception, been far less trouble than any of the used cars I have owned. And yes, you can tell from my name, I love Corvettes and I DEARLY wish I could afford a new one, but that ain't in the cards. When you buy new, you know the maintenance history. When you buy used, who knows what the idiot before did to that car. Sometimes the things you find later, or the things that were undetectable at the time of purchase, are appalling. My wife and I both put a lot of miles on our vehicles, and it does make me sick to know how much value the car loses immediately. But in the end, if you keep the car for several years, it pays off. Not any desire of mine to tell you how to spend your money--but that's been my experience.

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#385750 - 08/07/11 07:37 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: 75Corvette]
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I agree that everyone is correct about the importantance of vehicle maintenance. Having bought used since 1985 (prior new car purchase which I still have: 300ZX 2+2) I traded in my 1999 Lexus for a 2011 Avalon in Dec last year. For me the choice was a good value for the money after looking at the alternative of spending up to another $8k for same creature comforts. As you might tell I keep my cars till they almost waer out. It was an ecomonic reality that it was cheaper for me to have a new one than to maintain the old one after 289k miles. They just wear out no matter how well you take care of them. I have full wrap of service and warranty to 125k miles so I feel comfortable knowing those expenses are known. Some of you are mechanically inclined or have someone close you know to fix cars, I don't.
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#385787 - 08/07/11 08:07 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Retsof Yor]
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Norm would not agree with you. My sister in law inherited
1 million dollars from her parent and went out and bought
a used SAAB for ten grand. (now that she has the 1 million
she is pursuing a divorce from my poor brother) Like you our whole family always drives a car into the ground, makes sense to me.

Maybe you can learn something from Norm.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/26/man-with-2-6-million-mile-volvo-p1800-aims-for-3-million/


Edited by Hunter 308 (08/07/11 08:10 PM)

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#385788 - 08/07/11 08:17 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Retsof Yor]
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I've always thought it should be required that every kid--boy and girl--who goes through driver's training should have to learn basic maintenance, like changing oil, checking belts and hoses, tire pressure, antifreeze. The BASICS. It's just not that hard. We didn't learn that stuff when I took driver's ed back in 1984 other than to have it mentioned in the book. Dad taught me the basics, so I was lucky there. I am not a gearhead by any standard. I just hate the idea of paying good money to do simple tasks. Even a brake job on most modern cars is pretty simple if they have disc brakes. I think it's more about people being intimidated by the machine than a real lack of mechanical skills. Sometimes things get frustrating, but it always feels good to know that you did it yourself, especially if you look at the price of the parts you got versus what you would have paid in labor as well.

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#385887 - 08/08/11 07:06 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: 75Corvette]
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Great post but common sense is not pervasive in this day and
age. Case in point many people cant even do a chin up let
alone rescue their princess from the monsters or change their
car oil.

The Cuban guys all drive around in 1950's American cars. Even though they dont have real jobs they still seem to be with
very pretty girls. These girls are so happy to be with a guy
who has no job they dance around shaking theirs back sides in
delight, wish it worked that way here.


Edited by Hunter 308 (08/08/11 07:19 PM)

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#385891 - 08/08/11 07:24 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Hunter 308]
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I typed a post earlier but the website got hung-up and I made the grave error of hitting 'refresh' which wiped out all my typing - ugh!

I divorced a Corvette years ago. Years later, the son tells me it wasn't taken care of (incredible!) and years later the ol' man's getting divorced again! Final proof to the children that "I" wasn't the problem (yippee - but that's another thread)!

Bro-in-law is only a body man. A few of his guys work on engines, etc., but that is not their bread and butter, so, unless my hubby makes a repair (isn't that what men are supposed to do?), it goes to the shop. Not a "franchise" shop but a little, independent shop b/c I'm an independent so I like to spread what little cash I have to those who need it most.

I could never work on a car at my age - I can barely get Dr. Pepper or Michelob bottles opened - there'd be no way I could loosen a tight bolt/nut nor tighten one so that it stayed well-secured. Even the potato chip or Frito bags seem to be harder to open these days!

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#385899 - 08/08/11 08:09 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: VABroker]
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You need Mark Rippetoe, his gig will get you strong:

http://startingstrength.com/index.php

and soon you will as stong as this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez3wWdh-IEo&feature=related

and you will be able to pick up your own car without breaking
a sweat. But it aint easy and it's a lot of friggen work but you will feel like a million bucks even when you don't sell
a home. Keep in mind the powers that be what to turn us all into peasants so getting strong wil be important to you and
your family..


Edited by Hunter 308 (08/08/11 08:16 PM)

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#386054 - 08/09/11 10:36 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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I drive a 2003 Lexus LS430 with about 115K on it. It's super reliable and clients love it. You can pick them up pretty cheap.

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#388498 - 09/03/11 06:42 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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I feel a Saab 9-5 is the perfect realtor car, spacious, cheap to maintain, ride great, awesome seats, quick and clients think you're driving a car like a BMW or Mercedes. Perfect. Buy the Aero for even more fun! When i become a realtor I'll buy one for sure!

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#388505 - 09/03/11 08:10 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: sy1616]
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Since they don't make the Jaguar I saw as a prize in that Publisher's Clearinghouse Sweepstakes many, many moons ago, I just saw a little car the other day I liked - and I don't care that clients can't fit into it. If they can't drive me around, then they can't afford a mortgage payment either. It's some type of BMW sportscar convertible - it really caught my eye. Have to start watching the used car lots. Imagine my long, blond ponytail flying in the breeze!

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#388844 - 09/07/11 03:25 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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I have a 2004 Hyundai Sonata that is still in excellent shape and clean. Runs great and is always surviced. Why have a car payment. My take on this is I don't think I have ever lost a clientbecause of my older car. people like me for what I can do for them. You know some agents that just come out of school run and get this beautiful car, so are they more qualified than me? Hmmmm I'd think twice if I were a buyer looking for an agent. Great car or great agent. Seems like a no brainer to me. If a client wants me because of my car......do I want them ;-)

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#388867 - 09/07/11 07:05 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: debbief]
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Let's face it...the perfect agent's car is the potential buyer's car....

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#389442 - 09/15/11 12:45 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Some of my clients have drven Lexis and plenty of BMW's and my car never made a difference. Guess that might say a lot about me then ;-) I'l change it when I need to not because I feel someone else wants me to, because I might make more money. I do ok :-)

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#389492 - 09/15/11 08:22 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: debbief]
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Go Debbief! We're just not intimidated and bullied into driving fancy, smancy cars. Definitely don't want the monthly payments, and, I'd rather someone else pay the instant depreciation when THEY drive off the lot instead of me!

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#390881 - 10/03/11 04:54 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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I like to get a 3 or 4 year old lease return on something like a Lexus of Jag or similar. The milage is usually around 30k here and it's an inexpensive way to get a $70,000 car for a little less than half. The added bonus is when they are certified, you can get up to a 100,000 mile warranty. On these cars it means if there are repairs that take a little while, you get a free loaner. You just can't beat it :)


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#391743 - 10/13/11 10:50 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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After all it is a business expense. I think your business income should determine what kind of vehicle you can afford to drive. Owning an expensive car is not going to bring a new client.




Edited by Calgary Homes (10/13/11 10:51 PM)

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#391797 - 10/14/11 03:53 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Calgary Homes]
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I have always been kind of a car nut, and real estate was always a great excuse to replace a car. I have had all kinds over the years and followed all kinds of advice as to financing, leasing, etc.

The best Real Estate car I ever had was a cheap little Mazda roadster,It was fun to drive, got great mileage, and was cheap to maintain. The worst one was the Audi A8, it was a beautiful car, cost a fortune to insure, maintenance was through the roof, and on a good day I could pull 14 mpg.

We spend a lot of time in our cars, so its important that you are comfortable. How you take care of your car is a reflection on how you do your business, make sure that its clean and in good repair. Aside from that I don't think it matters if its big or small, new or old, fancy or plain.

The only people I ever impressed with my cars were other agents, the customers are always more interested in the homes.

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#391979 - 10/16/11 09:16 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Dodger52]
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Originally Posted By: Dodger52
The only people I ever impressed with my cars were other agents, the customers are always more interested in the homes.


LOL good point!

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#392400 - 10/20/11 08:26 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Chadly]
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honda accord is a good car.

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#393782 - 11/02/11 07:41 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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could someone do me a huge favor? I own a property at 3105 chippewa 63118- I recently rehabbed it and took photos- problem is i didnt take before..The only photo i know of is the one from an old MLS listing back in 05 or 06. can someone PLEASE send to me? sorry for asking such a strange questions but im desperate
jeremy

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#393784 - 11/02/11 07:46 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: jnamen]
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Shame on you that somewhere along the line of renovations the lightbulb didn't come on in your head...I'm not in that area.

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#393786 - 11/02/11 07:50 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: VABroker]
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yes sir tell me about it.. although it was my first and i was just so eager to dig in that i kept putting it off. this is my second renovation on this property.. so i have the photos from before this time but the real difference is in the original. i know im a fool..

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#393788 - 11/02/11 08:00 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: jnamen]
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Yes, but it's from real experience that we really learn.

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#393790 - 11/02/11 08:02 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: VABroker]
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id have it no other way!

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#393828 - 11/03/11 10:04 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: jnamen]
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Ditty covers that St. Louis and East St. Louis territory . . . . perhaps she can help you with the archives.

But what's this have to do with "our cars" ?
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#394457 - 11/11/11 05:26 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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I also like get my money out of them. I drive now a 2009 Fiat LINIA and I plan to keep it until it is old enough to be replaced.

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#394521 - 11/12/11 08:51 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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My husband and I started this discussion a few months ago so this subject is very relevant for me. I started out feeling that a newer car would be more presentable than my 1991 (20 year old) LS400. I love this care because it's more reliable and rides smoother than anything I've ever owned, however, through age, the paint and interior,ie. seats and console covers had started to crack really badly. So after looking for a new car about a month and running out screaming from the thought of what the car payment for a new car would be, we stopped by our local MAACO shop. Then I went on eBay and found really cool LEATHER seat covers for about $200.00. So for a cool grand, I have a semi-new car again (with the exeption of the 250K miles). So I said all that to say this, improve on what you have if you can and most of all keep it clean. You don't have to go into debt to make your clients happy. If they are serious about the transaction, a nice clean car will appease them. I plan on driving my baby until it won't go anymore!!!

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#394541 - 11/12/11 07:05 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: RealtyDiva]
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Amen, sister, amen!

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#394546 - 11/12/11 10:34 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Wise choice; those old Lexuses are pretty much indestructible. In a few more years, RealtyDiva, you'll have a classic...and trust me, clients love vintage cars! wink

A friend of mine has a theory that older, well-maintained luxury cars proclaim "old money," and you're more likely to garner attention and respect with one than with a flashy new luxury car. Random story: I recently decided I needed a second car, since I'm starting a few major restoration projects on my daily driver (a '64 Lincoln Continental) that will have it out of commission intermittently. So, I happened to find a '97 Jaguar XK8 coupe with high miles but in physically and mechanically immaculate condition that I can use when the Lincoln is on the rack. As far as potential clients think, I can afford a nice-looking luxury coupe (but not so new as to be pretentious), yet in reality I paid only a few grand for it. And while my old Continental is obviously the more serious conversation-starter, the Jaguar still gets more people talking to me in parking lots than when I'm running errands in my wife's brand-new luxury SUV.

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#395740 - 11/28/11 09:05 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Yes a grand old luxury car does become cool again. I drive a Volvo S60 and love the car and can see driving it for years to come. Just have to get it past the "it's an old car" stage to "wow look at that classic" stage. It's kind of like a woman growing her hair out - you have to go through that icky stage before it gets nice again. LOL

One other thing about cars though. The luxury cars do use a different paint process so that the exterior looks much better longer. My Volvo is 7 years old, my husband's Ford is 8 years old. My paint job still looks brand new - his doesn't.

Also, the luxury cars keep their exteriors the same longer and the changes aren't as dramatic. So it's difficult to tell if that Mercedes is 4 years old or 10 years old. So no one really can tell how old your car is. A lot of people think my car is pretty new when it's not.

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#396051 - 12/02/11 02:05 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Sometimes those car agents gives too much pressure to car owners. They give everything in hand just to make sure you don't have a choice but to grab the opportunity that they think its irresistible.

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#396091 - 12/03/11 12:36 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Are anyone here Import enthusiasts? I understand many of you are big rollers and probably have many luxury cars, BUT I was wondering if any of you still build cars like Civics, Integra's, Supra's, MR2's etc. as a hobby? I don't think I will ever be able to give this up even as I work towards succeeding in this industry. :)

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#396096 - 12/03/11 06:53 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Mong]
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Originally Posted By: Mong
Are anyone here Import enthusiasts? I understand many of you are big rollers and probably have many luxury cars, BUT I was wondering if any of you still build cars like Civics, Integra's, Supra's, MR2's etc. as a hobby? I don't think I will ever be able to give this up even as I work towards succeeding in this industry. smile


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#396362 - 12/07/11 10:50 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Mong]
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Originally Posted By: Mong
Are anyone here Import enthusiasts? I understand many of you are big rollers and probably have many luxury cars, BUT I was wondering if any of you still build cars like Civics, Integra's, Supra's, MR2's etc. as a hobby? I don't think I will ever be able to give this up even as I work towards succeeding in this industry. smile


Just say no to ricers! Sorry couldn't resist!


I drive a 2011 Taurus SHO, but have been thinking about trading it in for a used 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid. I love my Taurus, but i'm getting tired of the insurance and gas costs. On one hand I would love to save the money, but on the other hand I really like my car a lot. I hate decisions.

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#396376 - 12/07/11 01:17 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Mong]
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Originally Posted By: Mong
Are anyone here Import enthusiasts? I understand many of you are big rollers and probably have many luxury cars, BUT I was wondering if any of you still build cars like Civics, Integra's, Supra's, MR2's etc. as a hobby? I don't think I will ever be able to give this up even as I work towards succeeding in this industry. smile


I am really into cars and I find it very difficult to not drive something that is fun to drive... Now I drive a 2011 370z 6mt w/ sports package. I can barely fit a real estate sign in the trunk! lol

My last car for real estate was a 2004 Infiniti G35 6MT.
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#396584 - 12/10/11 03:11 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Triad REALTORŪ]
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My wife and I used to get new vehicles every couple of years but with our children getting to the driving age the last 2 years they have been getting the new ones.
A couple of months ago we suprised our middle son with a new Suzuki Grand Vitara Limited and his reaction was priceless.
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#396619 - 12/10/11 03:17 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: pastmember]
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Originally Posted By: SummersAtTheLake

A couple of months ago we suprised our middle son with a new Suzuki Grand Vitara Limited and his reaction was priceless.
Mitchel Gets Punked


LOL, very well done indeed. Kudos to you for surprising your son with such a nice present.
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#396638 - 12/10/11 08:21 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Andy Perkins]
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I remember Publisher's Clearinghouse would have those contests every year (no purchase and no subscriptions necessary) and Bob Barker would supposedly come knocking on your door.

One of the prizes was a Jaguar. I want to say this was the end of 1980's to very early 1990's. That Jaguar - I wanted THAT one and I STILL want THAT one. I don't like the other styles - even if they put Jaguar stickers all over it for the world to see - I still want THAT Jauguar - in deep red, silver, or beige - I didn't care what color.

Funny how some things NEVER change.

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#396669 - 12/11/11 06:31 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Hey, my Jaguar is deep red. Make me an offer... wink

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#396671 - 12/11/11 06:53 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Andy Perkins]
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Ohhh, so tempting....

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#398130 - 01/05/12 05:42 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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I have been comleting BPO's/CMA for 2 years
I am looking for more work. Any thing to help me out would be great

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#398152 - 01/05/12 09:55 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Asad]
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Originally Posted By: Asad
I have been comleting BPO's/CMA for 2 years
I am looking for more work. Any thing to help me out would be great
If your car is nice you could drive to the mills and show it off to them. It could translate into more orders. What do you drive?

General help for more orders? Asad--Mi Amigo--you have found the the Genie in the bottle (this forum). Only thing left to do is rub it (I mean read it). It's all here for the taking.
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#398154 - 01/05/12 10:52 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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I thought that was Ed McMahon?

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#398196 - 01/05/12 07:11 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Triad REALTORŪ]
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Who was it said no ricers? On nice warm and sunny days, I take my 85 300 ZX 2+2 out, take the T-tops off, and drive it for real estate. On colder days I take 11 Avalon out with the seat heaters for real estate and when its really nasty cold, snow and ice on the ground, I take my 4x4 Bowtie out for real estate fun!
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#398256 - 01/06/12 07:07 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Ah. The one car I truly, truly regret getting rid of in my life was my '87 300ZX 2+2...

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#398257 - 01/06/12 07:40 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Retsof Yor]
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Hey, Retsof Yor, which Bowtie with 4 X 4 do you have? I miss my '99 Blazer--I had an '05 Trailblazer as well, but it was too bus-like for my taste--the '99 was compact like a Jeep and handled the ridiculous Ohio winters like nothing. I've never had a 4 x 4 pickup, would like to know how they handle heavy snow with their light rear ends. I have a FWD '09 Traverse now that is terrible in snow.

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#398274 - 01/07/12 03:02 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: 75Corvette]
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Its the 87' Silverado Ext Cab 2500, one of the first to arrive here in town at the model change. I bought it new back then just like the 280 Z. Traction is decent if I don't play around to hard but if not without some weight it can swap end (drift) on ice. When they are sweet...I keep em.
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#398323 - 01/07/12 10:25 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: 75Corvette]
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Cool! Thanks for the info Roy--I'd like to have an older pickup like that, but I'd probably reserve it for summer use--either that or I'd fill it with firewood for winter traction smile . We've been exceptionally lucky so far this winter, but there's a looooong way to go.

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#398654 - 01/12/12 02:37 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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I put 40k miles on my brand new little honda civic doing bpos - couldn't believe it.

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#399011 - 01/17/12 12:25 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: Edson]
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01 BMW 740is w/210k miles (got it w/ 180k) on the clock. Super reliable and comfortable for doing real estate in all 21 counties here in NJ. Plus she loves to go fast. Actually, so do I. wink
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#400615 - 02/07/12 10:07 AM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: DeanMesaAZ]
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Just bought a 2009 Fusion with 14,500 miles, leather, heated seats, v6 for $13,900. For the mileage I couldn't find anything cheaper than $17,000 for the same car so I thought it was a good deal. I plan on driving it to at least 200k.

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#400713 - 02/08/12 01:57 PM Re: Let's talk about our cars [Re: PA/NJ Agent]
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The car you drive implies a lot about you to anyone who agrees to meet you for a professional purpose, I have been driving Infiniti G35 and so far it has treated me well.

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