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#282423 - 03/20/09 01:37 PM
Vicious Culprit in my Office?
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Registered: 04/20/07
Posts: 122
Loc: Florida, Treasure Coast
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I need your assistance. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Now, in the past, files have been deleted by another employee “accidentally” according to my office manager. I was able to find the file(s) on the two occasions with the assistance of IT. Today, the office manager discovers that files that are in seven key individual folders are deleted. The folder themselves remains, but the contents of the each folder is deleted.
I have dedicated a machine to act as my fileserver and installed 500GB of memory in it. The new drive was opened as a share drive and all restrictions were removed, thus allowing documents to be edited. I was working on documents within the folders at 3:30am this morning, so I know the files were there.
Considering all things possible, especially when it comes to computers, could the individual files get deleted, but not the folders? Or, is someone actually deleting the files?
One other thing, I checked the recycle bins of all computers. The files were not inside either machine. And, the machine that has the additional hard drive, its’ recycle bins was empty. If it appears that I am leading the witness, please disregard, I have tried only to state the facts.
Again, thanks for your assistance.
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#282554 - 03/21/09 09:25 AM
Re: Vicious Culprit in my Office?
[Re: Benjamin Harris]
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If the computer is acting as a server over the internet I would suggest you check your log files first. Chances are it was not an employee who deleted your files. If it was an employee it would likely show up in the log files.
All day long and especially in the overnight period there are endless intrusion attempts on most servers. Most of the attempts are automated and when a vulnerable server is found all sorts of nasty things can happen. Usually the server is just used as a zombie but files do get deleted.
Even checking the log files will not always reveal intrusions from the "pros"- there is popular software out there that rewrites the log files to cover up the intrusions. An employee probably would not be using such software though and their activities would show up in the log files.
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#283070 - 03/24/09 05:53 PM
Re: Vicious Culprit in my Office?
[Re: doug]
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Registered: 04/20/07
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Loc: Florida, Treasure Coast
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Thanks Man and Ben.
Doug, automated intrustions...that's interesting. My computers are always on for back up purposes. I will have to get with you on checking the log files. Thanks.
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#286222 - 04/15/09 11:03 AM
Re: Vicious Culprit in my Office?
[Re: SoFLBroker]
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Registered: 10/10/08
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Loc: Blackwood, NJ
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OK, I used to be an IT manager only a year ago.
You have some big problems here. Firstly, I am assuming this is a windows based system. That being said, when you delete a file across a network it doesn't go to a recycle bin, it is just deleted. Also, to log deleted files, you must turn it on first. It is not an automatic thing and your IT group may not have done it. When you turn it on, it takes up lots and lots of room in the log files and most servers can only hold a few days of the logs. This is why it is not turned on automatically.
To fix this problem you must must must lock down your server so only authorized users may access it. This is sooo easy, your IT group should have no problems doing it. Especially if they are using "active directory".
To comment on the file deletion thing, yes it is possible to delete a large group of files, without touching the folders. However, the computer still would have to be commanded to do it.
To comment on the part where someone said a deleted file is not deleted for real. Well, not all IT departments have the kind of hardware/software to recover documents deleted over a network. Referring to a backup is the best way to recover, but to do a low level disk recover is not common and can be expensive.
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#286344 - 04/16/09 11:26 AM
Re: Vicious Culprit in my Office?
[Re: Steven Henry]
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Registered: 04/20/07
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Loc: Florida, Treasure Coast
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Steve, thanks for the information, I will relay this to my IT. I find it interesting that files can be deleted without touching the folders. And, I will ask IT to make sure the deleted log file function is turned on because we generally do not need to go beyond a 24-48 hour period; usually mistakes or accidents are caught within that same period.
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