BPO Drone. I don't think anyone was talking about you specifically. I think, generally speaking, we are all getting to know each other in a way we haven't been exposed to before. That can be taken as a good or a bad thing.

Whistle-blowers DO have their place in certain situations where harm could come to someone if a problem is not brought to light. But this is not a whistle-blower case. This one is a question of ethics and ethics only.

I'm sorry to disagree with you but I just can't see me patting him on the hand and saying, "That's okay, big guy. We'll let it go this time. I'm just glad you're not mad at me [for what you did] and everything is fine between us."

I refuse to make amends to the broker. He put me in a position to take responsibility for what he was about to do and exposed me to unnecessary liability. Wouldn't making amends be condoning what he did in some way?

The way it is, is not always the way it should be. We're all in our respective businesses to make sure everything gets done the right way. Working together and abiding by the laws makes everyone's job a whole lot easier. Interfering with someone else's job and removing personal property for personal gain does not.

Linda

Shana. I'm not upset abour your opinions. To me, they're just as invaluable as everyone else's. What I don't understand is why you have to find a REASON for the topic I've posted here.

FWIW. I don't NEED the boat and left it at the property in the oh, so capable hands of the broker. I had my paperwork in hand with authorization to remove the boat and I could have very easily called the Sheriff's department to watch as I removed it.

The broker had no paperwork and it was his word against my written authorization. Who do you think the Sheriff would have allowed to remove the boat?

So, why didn't I do that? Two very good reasons.

One, I'm not materialistic and I don't fight over materialistic things. I said I would LIKE to have the boat but that, without going through the process with the DMV, it would have to sit in storage. Did you, or anyone here, even stop to think that a BANK might own it? I did.

Secondly, the media was on their way. No way was I going to make this situation any worse by bringing in law enforcement. Can you imagine the field day NBC could have had with that one? They would have the run the story that same night, regardless of the ethics in question!

Put your fears to rest, please. I am NOT on the verge of financial collape and I am NOT going out of business anytime in the near future.

Linda

"so shana, the boat is sitting in your back yard?"

I deny that allegation. neither I nor my employees were anywhere near that property at that time, and I have no connection with the listing broker in question.

please direct all future communications to my attorney and licensed boat captain, Mr. Sol Sailor.

Shana

I can only speak for the laws in California. It clearly states that if the personal property exceeds $350 in total value (not each), it's to be put into storage for 60 days and valid attempts will be made to contact the rightful owner....this law pertains to foreclosures as well as rentals. If the lenders and brokers have another agreement, that doesn't circumvent the law. Here, in my opinion, is where the broker really screwed up. By not removing the boat prior to the trash out bid (that means more than two parties are now involved), Linda had no choice but to notify the lender. She's now become a witness to this transgression of personal property rights. By creating a paper trail she'll cover her behind if there's any law suit. To the victor go the spoils doesn't apply here. I find it difficult to believe that the broker in question doesn't know basic California real estate law.

If you've read Linda's previous posts you'll realize her financial trouble was not from the lack of work, but rather the lack of being paid for completed jobs.

As for PP vendors breaking into a property, I had that happened a few months ago while doing an interior order. I asked him why and his reply was " I didn't have the keys". I slowly walked over and started unlocking various doors to the property. He asked me where I got the keys from.....my reply was "from the same lock box that you had access to". Oh, and by the way, he was working at the property before I arrived. It was so noted in my report.

I do get my REO listings sold and have very few problems with trash out crews or other vendors. My REO business is up and running (and growing, by the way). I do apologize for thinking you're a rookie. We have two different views on this subject. As for the reality check....I'll stay in my world..it works well for my clients as well as myself....It's nice and warm and cozy.....and the best thing of all is I can sleep at night. We all have our different ways of doing business.....my way works well for me.

Linda - How would you feel if the DMV goes after the broker for theft when the title shows a lien on the trailer by abc loan company

I wasn't disagreeing with what you said. I was just trying to analyze why people get emotional in their posts. We can all get emotional when we feel we're right.

No, no, and no to advertising with the media. I don't spend ANY money in advertising beyond a simple $8.95 per year website that I maintain on my own. As long as word of mouth and my website are doing the advertising for me, why spend another precious nickel on it? I've got better things to do with my money.

Linda

LOL. And here all this time I was thinking you didn't have a sense of humor, Shana. I love it.

Linda

You can really pack a lot into one sentence, can't you?

There is no easy response to this and no way can I answer in one sentence. I believe that whoever removes it should file the proper forms with the DMV to find out who the registered owner is. The current title would show any lienholder ~ if there is one.

The boat hasn't been registered since 2005. There is always the possibility the boat was stolen and parked there. I thought about that, too.

And then there's the possibility the boat loan was paid off prior to the registered owner leaving it behind and the title hasn't been changed.

So now we have a question of who stole what from whom. Does the original thief have any recourse against the broker? And if he does, is he willing to fork over the pay off to the lender? And, if the registered owner is found, can he sue the whole darned lot of them because he still wants his boat?

Linda

So if the owner doesn't claim the boat it has to go to charity by law in that state this was happening in? If it's not the law what would happen to it?

Linda

Speaking of trash outs........Have you noticed a similarity in what's left at the properties you trash out? While doing interiors I've noticed a lot of kids clothes and toys....and these weren't junk.....This almost brings tears....just can't seem to figure this one out.....I'm waiting to find a spare kid or two on one of these trips.....just doesn't make sense.

please deliver all unclaimed watercraft to my attorney and licensed boat captain, Mr. Sol Sailor.

the biggest trashout in American history will take place on Pennsylvania Avenue in January, 2009.

We get a pretty good mixture of stuff at the houses we trashout. But, yes, a lot of good clothes and toys. We bag everything separately as we work, along with linens and any other household items in good shape, then take them to donation centers.

We did a trashout earlier this year where I took roughly $5,000 worth of brand new ladies clothing, purses, and shoes to a domestic violence center. The women there obtain schooling from the center for future employment and, since these clothes still had tags on them, nearly everyone had brand new clothes for their upcoming interviews.

From this same property, we took 2 small truckloads of toys, bicycles, working appliances, linens, and other miscellaneous household items to a thrift store down the street from the shelter.

Most donation centers won't take baby furniture because of the liability if the baby gets hurt by something. These things we set up at home, make sure everything's intact, replace any missing screws, wash any cloth pads or seating, then ask friends if they know of someone with a baby on the way. Then we give them to the mamas to be.

Some of the trashouts tug at my heartstrings, too. I've learned to focus on the task at hand and try not to think about it too much. Otherwise, I'd be a quivering mess at night when I got home and probably cry for days.

Linda

Shana

Finally, we agree on something.....lol

I'll be so glad to see this 8 year run end.....The incoming president (and it doesn't matter who it is) has their work cut out for them. I'm afraid of what's still in front of us. I've said it many posts before, but, I think we're just seeing the tip of the iceburg...if, at anytime, I have ever wanted to be wrong, would be now.

Linda

It's kids stuff......toys and clothing....just makes no sense. Are the previous occupants saying the kids mean nothing? I've seen this time and time again. Did they wait til the last second, thinking the eviction would go away....was just a bad dream? I had the deepest respect for Greenspan until he made the statement "at least it gave the American family a chance to own". What a crock.......what good is owning if you can't keep it?......I'm going totally off subject....sorry...

While doing interiors, I've come across PP companies breaking up perfectly good furniture. Needless to say, they won't be working for me. We have a lot of needy families in this country. The thought process of this group leaves me in the dark as to "what are they thinking?".