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#244021 - 08/12/08 07:31 PM
IndyMac & Default School
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I just received an e-mail from IndyMac indicating they want existing and new agents to take three courses with Default School. Here's an excerpt.
"Dear Indymac REO Agents and Brokers,
On August 11, Indymac is introducing a mandatory formal education initiative for new and existing network REO brokers and agents.
This initiative includes a curriculum of multiple training courses.
1. The first course is REO Best Practices. This course provides an in-depth overview of how to manage an REO property.
2. The second course is Advanced Evaluations. Advanced Evaluations provides substantial video training that will increase your understanding of property valuations.
3. The final course is Indymac REO Policies and Procedures. This course offers a vehicle for Indymac to detail our unique REO processes and business practices.
We hired Default School to provide our online training. We believe this training will improve our service levels, reduce expenses and timeframes, and enhance our relationship with you. Indymac considers completion of this training as a differentiating factor in our broker and agent selection process"
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Note: This is going to cost agents $897.
Edited by seasaw (08/12/08 07:31 PM)
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#244022 - 08/12/08 07:48 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: seasaw]
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Registered: 11/02/07
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Loc: Central New York
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seasaw, where did you find the price? I was just approved at Indymac last week, and haven't handled an REO yet, although I was offered one that I referred to another broker who was closer. I haven't paid money yet to get BPOs or REOs. Wonder if it will be worth the cost????
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#244024 - 08/12/08 08:02 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: neudot]
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I found this information when searching for training courses they conduct in my state.
Here's the breakdown
REO Best Practices - $249 Advanced Evaluations - $249 Indymac REO Policies and Procedures - $399 ----------------- I haven't even been approved by IndyMac yet. My application is still pending and I received the e-mail.
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#244030 - 08/12/08 08:16 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: seasaw]
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Registered: 03/04/07
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Loc: SWI
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Seesaw - same here, my application is pending too and received the email. My question is, are they the same classes WF requires and if so, once one takes them will that improve one's chances of getting approved by WF too? It would be a little more worthwhile if they are applicable to more than one company, $897 is a lot to cough up.
Edited by jbt4re (08/12/08 08:17 PM)
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#244032 - 08/12/08 08:24 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: jbt4re]
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Got it. Not payin it. .
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#244040 - 08/12/08 08:56 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: AliceInReoLand]
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Loc: USA
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Gotta pay to play!
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#244048 - 08/12/08 09:20 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: Stacy]
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Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 387
Loc: California
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How do you check your application status? I got the email also. Not so sure I want to pay that much money without any guarantee of a listing.
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#244050 - 08/12/08 09:22 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: SrM]
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Registered: 10/14/06
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How do you check your application status? I got the email also. Not so sure I want to pay that much money without any guarantee of a listing. You can check status on their website. You need to enter your application ID, name, and e-mail address.
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#244051 - 08/12/08 09:25 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: seasaw]
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Registered: 11/02/07
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Loc: Central New York
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I applied last November, finally was approved just last week.
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#244054 - 08/12/08 09:28 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: neudot]
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Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 387
Loc: California
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I just looked mine up. Says "pending". I applied in November, do they call you when you're approved? Neudot I assume you're taking the courses.
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#244063 - 08/12/08 10:19 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: honest jane]
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Registered: 09/01/06
Posts: 2834
Loc: upstate New York
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I had handled Indymac for my previous sponsor but hadn't approached them yet since being on my own. A referral, thanks to another forum member, triggered my application. It was finally (a lot of things to look up for their required fields) completed last night and this morning's e-mail indicated it was approved. No mention of any Default School and will not incur that cost if it comes up, I see references to Default School being required for Wells Fargo too. Never did it for them either but closed my most recent listing from them last month.
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#244065 - 08/12/08 10:21 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: Mr. Foreclosure]
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Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 387
Loc: California
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Mr. Foreclosure, your application was approved overnight?
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#244069 - 08/12/08 10:24 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: SrM]
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Registered: 09/01/06
Posts: 2834
Loc: upstate New York
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Yes, but understand there was an assignment waiting for me to accept.
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#244071 - 08/12/08 10:32 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: Mr. Foreclosure]
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Registered: 05/18/07
Posts: 214
Loc: NH
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if you have already taken the first two classes for wells fargo, you might as well take the third one for IMB
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#244076 - 08/12/08 11:05 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: C21REONH]
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Registered: 04/24/06
Posts: 92
Loc: CA
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IMB is basically an REO themselves, are they going to be around when you complete the course? or is PAS taking over?
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#244078 - 08/12/08 11:18 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: SrM]
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Registered: 08/08/08
Posts: 88
Loc: So. Calif.
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Okay, so I get this letter today....suspicous....are these guys gettin' a cut on these courses from the default school to help save their deficit??? lol
Either you are a person who makes things happen or things will definately happen "to" you! That's what's worked all my life.... I have a swing on this, I will share the cost 50/50 with another liscensed agent in my company... that's what will make more sense, then we can both take the courses and work the listings???
Problem is... I was told I was like number 600 in my area a few months ago. I registered with them last August, it's now been a year...see - saw....yes indeed.
They are not the only ones I have gotten recent responses to applications I placed close to over a year ago. First Preston, who wants you spend with Bid Select... Okay, I am trying not to feel like a target here at the same time....
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#244079 - 08/12/08 11:19 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: Contiguous]
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Registered: 11/02/07
Posts: 1753
Loc: Central New York
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My phone conversation with an IMB REO rep last week indicated that particular division is alive and well.
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#244080 - 08/12/08 11:25 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: SrM]
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Registered: 08/08/08
Posts: 88
Loc: So. Calif.
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There are a heck of alot of 5% commissions to the selling agents in our surrounding areas, especially the duplexes.... $400,000 x 5% not bad! I think I will keep doing what I am doing. Got 5 in escrow.. I made my decision; I am eating pretty good right now, house payments are on time, no car notes, living the life, Selling agents get paid and can still take off time when they want. If I can find an agent to split it with - I will take the course, otherwise I'm doing okay!
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#244088 - 08/13/08 01:46 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REOBIRDLADY]
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Registered: 05/13/08
Posts: 745
Loc: Orange County, CA
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I got the same email as well, check my status and I am still pending according to their site. They also sent the email with other email addresses of the agents they were sending the same email to and I did some looking up from the other agent email addresses. There's only about 70 of them on this list, and the majority of them are in the Sacramento area in California, there are a good number of agents spread around the nation, and approximately 5 or 6 in my area, which leads me to believe that I should really consider paying for these courses only if I get full approval from Indymac. Or maybe the list of these agents are all like me and are pending approval. What do you all think?
Edited by socalreman (08/13/08 01:51 AM)
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#244131 - 08/13/08 09:31 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: socalreman]
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Registered: 02/03/08
Posts: 47
Loc: CA
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I am torn, I completed the PAS course mid last year and about 2 weeks after that I received an invitation to sign up and began receiving assignments within another 2 weeks; but only took the PAS Policies & Procedures ($400).
So yes, $900 seems alot to cough up. Haven't decided yet.
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#244134 - 08/13/08 09:47 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REO Agency]
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Loc: Ga
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What I would like to know is how many of you feel like you need this BS training? If you want to jump through these hoops for a company that is not promising you ANYTHING if you do this, go ahead. As for me and my DAMN HARD EARNED $$$$, I'll choose to work with someone who realizes the value that we bring to the table and INDY MAC can go pound sand.
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#244137 - 08/13/08 10:12 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: G-man]
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Registered: 05/13/08
Posts: 745
Loc: Orange County, CA
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I tend to agree with you G-Man, but Indymac is not like some fly by night company that's asking for donations. I am also wondering if the courses count for continuing education requirements?
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#244140 - 08/13/08 10:28 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: socalreman]
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Registered: 05/17/07
Posts: 1858
Loc: Texas
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Just curious from all of you IMB listing agents, did you get any listings from them this month? We have listed for IMB for 3 years and for the first time in a LONG time, we got no assignments from them this month. Makes me concerned since that happened right after they were taken over by the Fed.
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#244161 - 08/13/08 12:58 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: northtxbroker]
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 241
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haha i should have known there was already a post on this, i rcvd the email as well and just today clicked on the link showing me the price, it's seriously a pile of crap and i'm considering sending an email back to Dee or doing a reply ALL on it, I had an issue with them requiring the premier membership for Realtor.com because the company rep for realtor.com that called me was the rudest moron ever, and trust me i was being perfectly nice to him.. then indymac was down for a couple days during the INCIDENT and they stopped mentioning it, glad i didnt sign up! now this? no way, i just got an assignment from them this month too and it's a nice property but seriously this is ridiculous, most of the reo's im signed up with that DO require education or training provide it free. As listing agents we have to pay a big chunk to them, payfor our advertising, GAS, we do everything for them on these listings, if we're not getting them sold and are doing something wrong they can easily tell if, as long as they're good asset managers, and they would remove the agent.. Is this their way of brining in desperately needed money? ughhh... i wonder if i would be the only one sending something, I need to weigh whether this one listing is truly worth paying all that money out and risking it never selling, maybe they're in a bubble and don't realize how the market truly IS and what gas prizes are for us? Lor
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#244175 - 08/13/08 02:26 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: G-man]
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Registered: 09/28/07
Posts: 1166
Loc: Land of fruits and nuts.
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What I would like to know is how many of you feel like you need this BS training? If you want to jump through these hoops for a company that is not promising you ANYTHING if you do this, go ahead. As for me and my DAMN HARD EARNED $$$$, I'll choose to work with someone who realizes the value that we bring to the table and INDY MAC can go pound sand. I am with you there. I got an email today from them "following up". It reads: Dear Brokers We currently have 2031 approved brokers, 2260 brokers who applications are pending and over 9,200 new broker applications.
Our approved brokers will be required to sign up for and take the required courses (if not already taken and verified by Default School) by the deadlines. Those brokers whose applications are pending will be required to take the courses ( or verify they have been taken already) before their application is approved Taking the courses and getting approved (or remaining on the approved list) does not guarantee assignments, but rather makes you eligible to receive assignments based on your office zip code. Our assets are assigned electronically based on the parameters established in our system which verifies to our auditors that the human element is removed, thereby eliminating personal bias. We understand that taking these courses is a business decision and an investment that offers no guarantee of a return. We expect that some of you will elect to withdraw your application or not take the courses by the announced deadlines and we will understand and respect your decision. IndyMac Federal Bank, FSB is now operating under the full faith and credit of the FDIC and we have established these guidelines and requirements to insure the conservator that we adhering to their mandates. We appreciate your cooperation and understanding. For additional information regarding the training courses, please contact Rebecca Gifford at rgifford@realestateeducatecom. Please do not contact your asset manager(s) or other bank personnel concerning the educational requirement. All questions may be directed to Rebecca at her email address immediately above Thank you Now let's do the math. 2031 already approved = 2031 X 899.00= 1,825,869 2260 Pending brokers = 2260 X 899.00 = 2,031,740 9200 new applications = 9200 X 899.00 = 8,270,800 1,825,869 + 2,031,740 + 8,270,800 = 12,128,409 Pretty big profit to be made here from agents already struggling. I'll pass.
Edited by MadHatter (08/13/08 02:34 PM)
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#244178 - 08/13/08 02:58 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: AliceInReoLand]
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Registered: 04/12/08
Posts: 4725
Loc: Vermont's North-East Kingdom
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MH: I presume that you simply copied the email over to your browser; so all TYPOs, including the bad email address, originated with the IndyMac's Educator ?
Just checking. Seems to have been put together by them in haste.
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#244180 - 08/13/08 02:59 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: Vermont]
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Registered: 09/28/07
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Loc: Land of fruits and nuts.
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Yes. I copied and pasted. Not my typos (though I have been known to have a few).
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#244187 - 08/13/08 03:27 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: Vermont]
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Registered: 05/13/08
Posts: 745
Loc: Orange County, CA
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I love the line "Taking the courses and getting approved (or remaining on the approved list) does not guarantee assignments, but rather makes you eligible to receive assignments based on your office zip code". So what they are saying is, you may be screwed if you do the course and get NOTHING.
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#244192 - 08/13/08 03:53 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: FOSQBJ]
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Registered: 11/02/07
Posts: 1753
Loc: Central New York
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Here's another way at looking at the math. 2031 approved agents/50 states is approximately 400 agents per state. Wonder if that would work out to be more than one assignment/agent/state/year? Of course, if it attracts other clients, the pain would be lessened.
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#244763 - 08/15/08 09:53 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: super realtor]
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Registered: 08/01/08
Posts: 5
Loc: Rhode Island
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I'm a little leery of Indymac as I was on the selling side of an Indymac transaction when it was discovered by the title company that the property had not been foreclosed on correctly...it took 1 year to straighten it all out. My buyer bought something else after waiting and on the advise of her lawyer. Good advise.
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#244784 - 08/16/08 02:58 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: Vermont]
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Registered: 08/08/08
Posts: 88
Loc: So. Calif.
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uuuuhhh....yehhhhh.... I responded to thier e-mail questioning the status of my applications because I have never been able to access it for some reason, although I am told verbally, it is "pending" and I got the same bad typo letter you did, word for word.
In other words, there is absolutely no guarantee they will send me a single REO. This was the number one company I have been trying for months to get into and nothing.... I even paid to go to some B-s conference they gave at 49.00 With aboiut 250 agents attending.... Not a word about REO's during the whole darn conference, so I of course raised my had and asked questions at least 3 times regarding REO's only to be shot down, this was in about March of this year. What a joke, I got an turkey sandwich, an apple, and a coke, I guess it was a just a lunch date. All we did was go to a PR meeting for Indymac to hear what a wonderful company they were and how we should just send them loans.... When the take over came through, I had 3 qualified buyers placed with them, I pulled them away from that joker loan officer. Giving loans to try and get REO's was making me feel like a REO wh---!
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#244805 - 08/16/08 09:11 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: northtxbroker]
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Loc: California
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i think something is going on as well. i've heard rumors that the FDIC is considering selling it's entire Indy REO portfolio at auction so there will be no Indy REOs. i've also heard that Indy's REO brokers are very well-regarded in the industry and other companies has expressed interest in working with us to help liquidate their REOs. All rumors.
what i will confirm at least on my end is that whereas i was getting several Indy assignments a week, the spigot has all but turned off since the FDIC took over. i suppose these costly training classes could be a sign that the FDIC is committed to continuing Indy's REO department. i can't imagine that they would force us to take these classes and then dump the whole program a couple of months later.
the complete dead stop of REO assignments could also mean that the FDIC is revamping and once they get it together it will be business as usual. i'd love to hear from other Indy REO brokers to learn if they too have experienced this complete cessation in Indy REO assignments over the past month.
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#244806 - 08/16/08 09:16 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REO Duchess]
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Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 37
Loc: California
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One other thing, the Default School email mentioned that REO assignments are "handled electronically" to "remove the human element". does anyone know how they were handled before the FDIC took over?
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#244812 - 08/16/08 09:51 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REO Duchess]
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Registered: 09/01/06
Posts: 2834
Loc: upstate New York
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After an overnight approval of my application to be an Indymac listing broker, and the assignment of a specific REO property, they also sent me the letter about Default School.
Not interested. I'll handle what is assigned to me, if they are satisfied and assign more fine. If they decline any future listings for lack of Default School that is fine too. I was doing very well without them before and can again if that is what happens.
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#244813 - 08/16/08 10:17 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: seasaw]
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Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 37
Loc: California
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The pdf attached to the first email says that "existing Indymac brokers and agents must enroll in and complete" the Advanced Evaluations and Indymac REO Policies and Procedures courses. It doesn't say anything about the REO Best Practices class. Is that just an oversight or is the REO Best Practices class not required for existing Indymac brokers?
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#244823 - 08/16/08 11:37 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REO Duchess]
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Posts: 1858
Loc: Texas
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the complete dead stop of REO assignments could also mean that the FDIC is revamping and once they get it together it will be business as usual. i'd love to hear from other Indy REO brokers to learn if they too have experienced this complete cessation in Indy REO assignments over the past month. Exact same thing happened to our office and those were my thoughts as well. At least they haven't laid off the REO staff...yet. One other thing, the Default School email mentioned that REO assignments are "handled electronically" to "remove the human element". does anyone know how they were handled before the FDIC took over? They were handled the exact same way before. Preference given to experience and score.
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#244831 - 08/16/08 01:04 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: northtxbroker]
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Posts: 354
Loc: San Jose, California
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How much is the realtor.com premium deal-thingy? I'm still trying to assess total cost for dealing with Indymac and Default school.
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#245071 - 08/18/08 01:39 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: honest jane]
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Registered: 05/17/07
Posts: 1858
Loc: Texas
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FED has now frozen all IndyMac properties that are in foreclosure. If they have been foreclosed on already, it will be business as usual. But all properties that have a NOD are being frozen to give property owners a chance to modify their existing loans.
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#245084 - 08/18/08 02:55 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: northtxbroker]
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I flat our refuse to sign on for the realtor.com premium, like i said i refused before they were taken over and so far no backlash as ive rcvd a new listing(soo dont want to jinx it!!) but it was mainly because the realtor.com rep was rude to me on the phone, literally accusing me of not wanting MY buyers, THEIR customers to get the very best, and he used this horrible accusing voice:| it was to the point i was shocked at his emotional outrage at me that i was speechless and thats RARE!! i'm not doing the school, it's not worth the few indymacs i rcv combined with being unsure of indymac's stability right now, I have not seen a foreclosure deed on the new listing i hve but our county is slow and i have a signed cfk..im evicting a realtor at THAT..but he's a jerk soo im ok with it:)
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#245189 - 08/18/08 11:51 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: northtxbroker]
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Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 37
Loc: California
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Where did you get this information from? most of the occupants i work with on the CFK that i do for Indymac are so fed up they're no longer interested in a modification. why in the world is indy now requiring default school? who knows what will happen next? do you have any additional information. thanks.
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#246188 - 08/25/08 01:37 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REO Duchess]
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Registered: 08/08/08
Posts: 88
Loc: So. Calif.
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does indymac also require you to sign up for realtor.com? Does anyone know which companies they insist you sign up with. Tomorrow is the deadline to sign up for the class, I decided "no more money", however a friend of mine also has the invite, and is asking me.
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#246380 - 08/26/08 02:49 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REOBIRDLADY]
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Registered: 05/13/08
Posts: 745
Loc: Orange County, CA
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I signed up for the courses about an hour ago. Earlier today, I finally spoke to a good friend of mine who does REO's for Indymac in my area and she said, DO IT! I asked her why? She said, if you read the email which states that there are approximately 14,0000 agents around the nation who are already active working agents for Indymac, waiting to be approved agents, and the inactive approved agents is small in comparison to the number of REO's they have coming down the pipeline (Alt A Paper loans were the biggest for Indymac, they are now starting to reset),especially in my area.
Plus she said the course is very well done and after being in the REO listing side for over 10 years, she felt that she learned new procedures and policies from the courses.
So I started the course, so far, I have found it very informational and valuable for me to try to crack this business. Plus, your info is on this schools site, according to the school, there are a number Lenders use their list to recruit REO agents. I could be wrong, but even if I get one sale from completing the course, it would of paid for itself, if not, then it's a tax write off.
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#246430 - 08/26/08 10:05 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
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From talking to IMB brokers/agents/loan officers, IMB has approximately 8,000 REOs in its inventory that are frozen right now while the FED reviews them. There's no timetable on when the program will come back, but I'm guessing it will come back around the same time that this schooling is supposed to be done. Also, I've read that they've sent out 4,000 modification agreements on loans that were behind.
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#246472 - 08/26/08 12:35 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
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I just found out, that M2M is asking for a training from Default School! $500.00 for both courses, plus IMB is $400.00.
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#246503 - 08/26/08 03:40 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
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Recovering, I think this new trend is what they call WEEDING OUT. Nini, hopefully you signed up for the IMB class before 8/25/2008.
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#246516 - 08/26/08 04:44 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: socalreman]
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I haven't heard that about M2M yet... when are they going to start doing that?
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#246589 - 08/27/08 12:38 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
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I haven't heard that about M2M yet... when are they going to start doing that? M2M just sends those horrid eblasts. Why bother? When one of the banks I work for requests me they don't show up as blasts they are 'orders'... If you are getting blasts and are not a "preferred agent" on M2M don't bother with the Default School if you already are proficient with BPOs. At least that's my opinion.
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#246591 - 08/27/08 12:47 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: socalreman]
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Darn. Missed the date! In regards to weeding out or as I like to refer to it, "A culling of the herd" it's about time! Some of the agents in my area have 200+ listings and they are vandalized and not boarded and God knows when they last did an inspection, you submit offers and weeks go by and they never respond, you can never reach a soul on the phone (I actually called one REO agent and his voicemail message said - "If you are calling on offer status we WILL NOT call you back.") Uhhh, how about hiring some help or deflating your ego?  I doubt the Client is aware of these things... Recovering, I think this new trend is what they call WEEDING OUT. Nini, hopefully you signed up for the IMB class before 8/25/2008.
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#246592 - 08/27/08 12:49 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
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Realtor.com is hurting right now for funds. The cost is based on the # of listings you have had in past 12 months but if you whine a bit about $ they will cut you a discount. How much is the realtor.com premium deal-thingy? I'm still trying to assess total cost for dealing with Indymac and Default school.
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#246594 - 08/27/08 12:54 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: NiNi]
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nini, did you try to sign up today and they wouldn't let you?
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#257097 - 10/29/08 10:37 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
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I started to believe that IMB is under heavy scrutiny by the Feds, they have frozen my second assignment. It has been over two weeks and no listing agreement after I successfully completed the CFK.
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#257309 - 10/30/08 10:43 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
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Hello Everyone,
HELP!!! I am in the Dallas-Ft.Worth Metroplex. Could someone exchange Listing Companies/Asset Managers with me. I have First American, Coldwell Banker, HomeEQ, GMAC, DispoSolution, IAS, and OCWEN. Although I haven't received any new listing from IAS, HomeEQ and OCWEN for months.
I have lost over 75% of my REO Listings and I need the work. Now that GMAC is playing games, I guess I just lost another. I have played all of these companies games to their satisfaction but they always dumped on you at the end.
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#257310 - 10/30/08 10:48 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: Cynthia Corbin]
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Loc: Houston, TX
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Are you sure you're playing their game according to their rules?
Because the forum rules indicate NOT to come on here asking for contact information. Just sayin'.......
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#257314 - 10/30/08 11:00 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: Highest&Best]
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Loc: Land of fruits and nuts.
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They haven't dumped my broker and she has been doing this work for 8 years. She gets more and more everyday. Are you SURE you're playing by the rules?
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#257316 - 10/30/08 11:02 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: AliceInReoLand]
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Finally received acceptance with user/password this morning. Patience is a virtue, but I will keep you posted if and when I receive any listings!
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#257318 - 10/30/08 11:17 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REO Agency]
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REO Agency, How long was you application pending?
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#257322 - 10/30/08 11:39 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: Cool guy]
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I have been pending for 10 months.
Finished the course in August, never heard from management since course completion and finally within the last few days received feedback, provided the necessary doc's and am now in the system.
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#257327 - 10/30/08 12:31 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REO Agency]
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Cool REO Agency, mine has been pending for 6 months, I got 4 more to wait for, sooner than later I hope.
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#257335 - 10/30/08 02:42 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: FIJIMAN]
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Signed up early January and was pending through late October. When the mass email to take the Indymac course went out, I completed the courses, still pending, waited another 2-3 months for some kind of response then received email about application review/approval and was provided user/password.
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#257340 - 10/30/08 03:36 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REO Agency]
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Loc: Orange County, CA
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Fiji,
I did all three courses, still am pending, have heard nothing since completing courses in mid Sept. I am not discouraged, I know that the school itself pimps out their students to other asset management companies, I know, one of my good friends just got a bunch of new listings from another asset management company from just taking those courses, of course, she also has 20-30 listings at a time, so it maybe because she's experienced.
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#257397 - 10/30/08 06:22 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: ss1boc]
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Loc: Orange County, CA
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I can't divuldge her information, but I can tell you that they are recruiting from Default School, not here to promote them, just telling you what I know.
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#258454 - 11/06/08 01:09 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: Cool guy]
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Received a listing from them this week.
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#258458 - 11/06/08 01:18 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REO Agency]
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Is that your first listing from them since the FDIC went in? i just closed several with them that were in pre-list when Indy went under but i haven't seen a new assignment since. I think the new California foreclosure law (Senate Bill 1137) coupled with the bailout has really slowed the REO biz to a near halt in California. i believe though that all of this is just prolonging the inevitable. Unless lenders are willing to actually modify loans with principal reductions i don't see how any of this is really going to halt foreclosures.
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#258524 - 11/06/08 10:06 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REO Duchess]
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Registered: 07/06/08
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Loc: california
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Just want to know if anyone understands how Indymac is working these days -- they say they are only giving out listings in the zip code you work in however one of my co workers who works in a totally different county got a listing in my county as ask that we be co listers because she is so far away -- does anyone understand this or have any ideas on why indymac would work in this manner considering they ask us to pay so much money for their classes --- seems like business as usual
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#258533 - 11/06/08 10:50 PM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: SBbkr]
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yes that was my understanding as well but when we had an agent in another county so far away that they needed to call on us to service the listing -- I started getting a little curious to the whole system, however I don't want to get my co worker into a sticky situation, but it was very clear in the classes that you service your own listings etc...what do you think this is about and what do you suggest we do
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#258545 - 11/07/08 01:27 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: DelCidsRealty]
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My understanding is Indymac assigns listings based on who they have in the area so if they don't have an agent within 20 miles they will assign it to someone who is as close as possible even if that's 50 miles away. i've never actually had a listing in my office zip code but i have had listings 50 miles away but i travel to those areas several times a week anyway so it works well for me.
i wish there was an Indymac insider who could share with us what is really going on.
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#258566 - 11/07/08 08:37 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REO Duchess]
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Is that your first listing from them since the FDIC went in? Yes, this is my first listing with them and I received it early this week.
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#258576 - 11/07/08 09:33 AM
Re: IndyMac & Default School
[Re: REO Agency]
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Registered: 03/26/08
Posts: 933
Loc: Los Angeles, CA REO Capital
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Not true...My first pre-listing is way out of my office's zip code, I do receive another one closer though! So, no one knows exactly what are they doing! I am happy to receive them, even if I have to co-op with other agents outside the area.
I'm getting contacted by other REO agents outside my area to work with them, so am doing the same thing.
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#258589 - 11/07/08 10:40 AM
experience with NV
[Re: seasaw]
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Does anyone have any comments or experience with these guys on BPO's and REO's
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#258596 - 11/07/08 11:06 AM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: nameled]
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Loc: california
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Nations Val any experience BPO and REO
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#267906 - 01/06/09 07:30 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: nameled]
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Bumping. I think my Default School training paid off. I was just accepted with IndyMac.
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#267908 - 01/06/09 07:34 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: seasaw]
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Late last year IndyMac listed a property with me that was sold and closed before the end of the year. I don't know if they grandfather agents with more experience or what but I never did the Default School.
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#267909 - 01/06/09 07:45 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: Mr. Foreclosure]
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Late last year IndyMac listed a property with me that was sold and closed before the end of the year. I don't know if they grandfather agents with more experience or what but I never did the Default School. I submitted my application with them over 1 year ago. I took their required Default School training in September 2008 and was finally accepted today. Their acceptance letter is requiring that I not only upload my E&O and license information but copies of Default School training certificates.
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#267940 - 01/07/09 12:01 AM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: seasaw]
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WTG Seasaw, I am still waiting, I hope it pays off for me too.
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#268015 - 01/07/09 01:57 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: seasaw]
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WTG Seasaw!
Edited by WillChea (01/07/09 01:58 PM)
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#268025 - 01/07/09 03:20 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: WillChea]
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Hey Seasaw... what state are you in?
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#268140 - 01/08/09 09:53 AM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: SBbkr]
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Loc: Los Angeles, CA REO Capital
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I didn't complete the third module and contacted IMB for the invite and they told me to hold on, since they are changing strategy on all the courses.
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#268236 - 01/08/09 08:06 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: RecoveringREAgnt]
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#268237 - 01/08/09 08:19 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: SBbkr]
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I did the default school and applied with IMB and I'm still pending. Recovering, how to contact them about the 3rd module?
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#268431 - 01/09/09 06:06 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: HUDLover]
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No way you can do the 3rd module at this time, I was told by the new VP to hold on until further notice.
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#268601 - 01/11/09 09:31 AM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: RecoveringREAgnt]
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Anyone know what the IMB sale is going to do for those of us that are already on the approved bkr list?
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#269454 - 01/15/09 02:09 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: SBbkr]
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Registered: 05/17/07
Posts: 1858
Loc: Texas
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Just got an email from IMB that they confirmed completion of default school classes. Maybe they are going to start reassigning assets from agents who didn't complete the courses. That would be nice if they started to enforce that requirement.
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#269462 - 01/15/09 03:27 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: northtxbroker]
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sooo, NOW my questions is, what happens if you didnt do the school and you have one of their propertie under contract:) Lor
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#269465 - 01/15/09 03:38 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: Lor63]
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I don't know. I'd bet you were safe if you have something under contract. Also, they may not have reviewed your area yet for compliance.
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#269537 - 01/15/09 09:38 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: northtxbroker]
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<<secretly hoping for my area to be reviewed!
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#269570 - 01/16/09 12:07 AM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: HUDLover]
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I got the completion notice as well... that said they had already contacted me weeks ago. Anyone have updates regarding the buyout and how that will affect approved brokers?
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#269679 - 01/16/09 02:33 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: SBbkr]
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From my understanding, they are extending the school 2 more months for those Brokers/Agents that didn't complete it in time. After 2 months if they still haven't completed it, then they will be re-assigning their assets. During the 2 months that they are extending the deadline for delinquent Brokers/Agents to complete the training, they won't be able to receive any new assignments but will be able to keep the ones they already have.
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#269688 - 01/16/09 03:11 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: PlatinumBroker]
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Loc: Texas
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Did you get an email for that? I didn't get it, but I did the training in September. That means the new deadline should be the end of this month, right?
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#269691 - 01/16/09 03:21 PM
Re: experience with NV
[Re: northtxbroker]
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Well, some agents that I know didn't do finish it in time and that is what they said was told to them. I'm not sure when the new deadline is - I will rely when I hear anything more.
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