#243849 - 08/11/08 09:29 PM
Re: The Real Estate Market is BAD!!!
[Re: Texas Agent]
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Loc: Northeast PA
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The problem in this industry is the booming FSBO. Could you further elaborate on this remark?
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#243851 - 08/11/08 09:37 PM
Re: The Real Estate Market is BAD!!!
[Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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Registered: 07/14/08
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If Realtors are overpaid, why is it that NINE OUT OF TEN new licensees quit by their third year? Why would they give up all that easy money coming in? Does that make any sense to you Pilot?? 
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#243854 - 08/11/08 09:52 PM
Re: The Real Estate Market is BAD!!!
[Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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Registered: 04/12/08
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Loc: Glover, Vermont
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I have to make a quick run to the Bank !
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#243858 - 08/11/08 10:16 PM
Re: The Real Estate Market is BAD!!!
[Re: pilot00]
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Loc: East Coast
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Just trying to explain why people think agents are over paid. People think so because they don't understand nor appreciate what an agent's experience and knowledge can bring into a deal. An agent can help you keep more of your equity or can help you minimize your losses if you are upside down. People venture into selling by owner because they think that it is easy. They don't know the first thing about pricing a property, the legal documents needed to keep out of trouble, the steps needed to keep a deal together, in particular if it's in I.C.U. as mentioned by Vermont007. Getting an offer on a property is just the beginning. In a declining market, if you have to sell, there is no time to experiment. Selling sooner rather than later could be the difference between keeping or losing thousands. Many have lost thousands because they didn't want to listen to their professional realtor or even have one for that matter, and by the time they finally came to their senses and were able to sell, they had lost so much that should they had listened earlier on they could have paid the commission and still come ahead in the end.
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#243860 - 08/11/08 10:29 PM
Re: The Real Estate Market is BAD!!!
[Re: Texas Agent]
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I do it myself at night because that is the only time I get to think; and also the only time that the Lamborghini is available. I don't ever want to be seen by the Locals driving it during daylight, so it stays in our Shampoo Parlor.
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#243867 - 08/11/08 11:06 PM
Re: The Real Estate Market is BAD!!!
[Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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Only because when I'm cruising in that Lamborghini through the mountains on a pitch black night, the Vermont DMV demands that I be vigilant and "Think" about the Moose and Bear and Deer that frequently jump out in front of me. If it were only up to me, I wouldn't think at all . . . . but the DMV makes me do it.
Now, after all this criticism, I have a hankering to cruise on over to the Bank again before dawn; just to check my balances on the ATM . . . . but this time I'll do it in a thoughtless manner.
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#243872 - 08/11/08 11:31 PM
Re: The Real Estate Market is BAD!!!
[Re: Vermont]
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"Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin - more even than death.... Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man." (Bertrand Russell, British philosopher, 1872-1970)
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#243878 - 08/12/08 12:04 AM
Re: The Real Estate Market is BAD!!!
[Re: pilot00]
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Look, I am not trying to start a debate, everyone has a right to thier opinion. Let's say prices were up 50 to 100 percent in one year like the prices were in many areas from 2002-2006. In one year your salery doubled for the same amount of work. The paperwork and advertiseing prices did not change, the rest was pure profit. What was the cost of living increase durring those years?...something like 3-5%. My point is, like it or not, your commissions checks are more now than what they were in 2000 when prices were lower. yes prices are down in some areas but they still have not fallen down below 2000 numbers. I'm a new agent but have been investing in real estate for over 10 years. Markets will go up and down but in the end real estate allways goes back up, and therefore so does your salery (at least more than the cost of living index) As agents we must learn to be good with handling our personal finance so that when times are bad we have money and investment properties avalable to live off of. what if car dealers raised prices by 10 percent so they could pay thier salesmen (like realtors) a 10-15 percent commission, would you think that the price of a car is too much and complain? I bet most people would. I look at this from both sides. I am open minded about everything. This is not my first career, but my third. I am a little different with my opinions because I am doing this PART TIME for FUN. I do not work for a discount company (don't believe in them), and would not low ball anything. The problem in this industry is the booming FSBO. I understand your stress and hope everyone does well and makes as much as they can. Just trying to explain why people think agents are over paid. Well "like it or not" you've started a debate. If prices go up, why do people still use agents? Please explain to us how the booming FSBO is a problem in the real estate industry. You obviously have a problem with agents being overpaid, yet you're not taking less than the "average" agent? Kind of hypocritical to me. So you don't have a problem with the pay for transactions, you just have a problem with agents who can complete WAAAAAAY more transactions than you? To those who dont "do this for fun, part time" ??? Make up your mind!!
Edited by Merkaba (08/12/08 12:09 AM)
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#243905 - 08/12/08 07:24 AM
Re: The Real Estate Market is BAD!!!
[Re: Merkaba]
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Registered: 08/11/08
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Loc: Indiana
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Please do not take any of this personal, which many are. The fact is this : You are only worth what people think your service is worth. Or you could say you are paid what your worth. If you think you are UNDERPAID please by all means raise your rates and let me know how that works. FSBO and the internet is a problem in the industry because it is taking money away from your pocket. There are still a lot of successful transactions that are being conducted without an agents help. There is a high turn over in any industry. How many pre-law or pre-med students actually graduate? This industry is not for everyone and since the only way to figure out if you like it or not is to try it there will be a high turn over.
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#243911 - 08/12/08 08:20 AM
Re: The Real Estate Market is BAD!!!
[Re: pilot00]
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Loc: Glover, Vermont
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Except on this Thread, FSBOS ARE NOT a major Threat. As a matter of fact, FSBOs provide me with another source of income in my Consulting business. I have little problem selling my time on an hourly basis to these Folks. Quite a few subsequently become Clients.
FSBOs are actually more concientious than most of the other Sellers that we counsel "for free" in anticipation of being compensated with some elusive percentage of a Transaction that may or may not be consummated at some future date. Time is not so free-flowing when it has a meter associated with it. I don't do for them what they can do for themselves.
I also provide a consultation service to Buyers who are thinking about, or are already engaged in purchasing a FSBO; and I make every effort to "not put cold water" on what might otherwise be a good deal. They too, at some future point, often become Customers, and even Clients. This IS NOT a business that provides immediate gratification.
An "Honest Broker" will always have a place. Some of us have Post-Graduate Degrees; but like you, can practice Real Estate for the "fun" of it. That's what this Forum is, a good place to practice; hone, and yes, even sometimes "think" about this business that allows us to have such an impact on the future course of Others' Lives . . . . even FSBOs !
So much for the Filosofy of FSBOs. Bertrand Russell could contribute much to our discussion; but "Too much thinking will Dull the Mind". Anonymous
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#243918 - 08/12/08 09:21 AM
Re: The Real Estate Market is BAD!!!
[Re: Merkaba]
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Are "Mr. Owens" and "Reggie Owens" one and the same Person ? What prompted this change ?
I'm sorry; but I have to pay attention to these subtle changes in the World around me.
Most of the Reginalds I know choose to go by Junnie when you get to know them.
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