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#20581 - 10/09/06 06:29 PM Can this guy do this?
Wizard Offline
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Registered: 05/24/06
Posts: 16
I'm really p*ssed. I pay to advertise in this particular real estate mag and when I grabbed an issue the other day I noticed that some other agent tucked his flyer into the pages. I went back and checked, and they all had one.

What I want to know is can he do this?

Can he be penalized for this unethical behavior?

Where can I report him to?

Thanks for the help

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#20582 - 10/09/06 08:35 PM Re: Can this guy do this?
Delicious Cake Offline
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Registered: 12/10/05
Posts: 2702
Loc: CA
It could be that the magazine offers flyer insertion as a service.

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#20583 - 10/09/06 10:42 PM Re: Can this guy do this?
mystic Offline
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Registered: 07/24/05
Posts: 147
Loc: California
just contact the magazine and ask them this question. I'm sure they can answer it better then we can.

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#20584 - 10/10/06 04:46 AM Re: Can this guy do this?
GregInAtlanta Offline
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Registered: 04/14/05
Posts: 1171
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
How can he do this? It may be pre-arranged with the publisher, or he may do it himself. If it is the publisher's call, there is nothing you can do since it is the publisher's product.

Is it unethical? If he did it himself, probably. But probably not unethical enough for him to get in trouble. It will just elevate him to jackass level.

Where can you report him? Nowhere. There is no law that says you can open up free magazines and put stuff in there. Although tacky and unprofessional, it fails by miles to get into the arena of illegal activity.
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#20585 - 10/10/06 08:38 AM Re: Can this guy do this?
KSC Offline
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Registered: 10/10/06
Posts: 8
Loc: Surrounding Atlanta Area
I'd say it isn't unethical, did you check to see if he advertised too? I'd say this agent is pretty darned motivated. He is targeting people who pick up a free magazine and advertising his own listing for sale.

Sounds like a good idea to me. People paste flyers all over cars and things like that, I'd rather see it there than on my car.
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#20586 - 10/10/06 09:00 AM Re: Can this guy do this?
Jflynn Offline
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Registered: 07/16/04
Posts: 2899
Why would you guys assume this is not illegal? I bet it is, although not likely to be prosecuted.
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#20587 - 10/10/06 09:11 AM Re: Can this guy do this?
Paul Oaks Offline
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Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 3370
Loc: Central Illinois
Jason please tell us what laws have been broken?
This is definately tacky but not illegal. If on private property the property owner could ask that the agent in question never return to his property but this is not likely as the property owner could probably care less! If it is the local homes guide magazine/book and the agent in question is a member of the local board he could possibly be disiplined by the board.

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Originally posted by Jflynn:
Why would you guys assume this is not illegal? I bet it is, although not likely to be prosecuted.
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#20588 - 10/10/06 09:32 AM Re: Can this guy do this?
Jflynn Offline
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Registered: 07/16/04
Posts: 2899
Obviously I'm neither a lawyer nor in law enforcement but some possibilities might be criminal trespass, littering, theft of service, maybe even fraud.
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#20589 - 10/10/06 09:49 AM Re: Can this guy do this?
KSC Offline
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Registered: 10/10/06
Posts: 8
Loc: Surrounding Atlanta Area
The thing is usually right about the 'free magazines' in grocery stores and things like that there is usually a bulletin board for flyers and cards, I guess I don't see the difference.

If I advertise in a magazine and spend $400 per page, you had better bet I'll stick my business card in there, never thought about flyers though.

You would have to check the entire magazine to see if he advertised first, then if you still have beef, call the agent directly. I think if you feel something is unethical, you have a duty to let the agent know what he/she is doing wrong and why.
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#20590 - 10/10/06 11:27 AM Re: Can this guy do this?
Jflynn Offline
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Registered: 07/16/04
Posts: 2899
Advertising on the publication doesn't give someone the right to insert cards or flyers unless authorized by the publisher and premises merchant.

There is no "duty" to tell the offending agent before turning them in, either.
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#20591 - 10/10/06 12:58 PM Re: Can this guy do this?
Paul Oaks Offline
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Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 3370
Loc: Central Illinois
The premise merchant could care less if some agent adds flyers to a free publication. If they get complaints they are more likely to tell the publisher to remove the free magazine stand as it is causing problems.

Our office use to get stacks of the homes guides delivered. I use to take about 30 each week attach my card and a small sticker that said "Courtesy of Your local Realtor Paul Oaks" to the bottom 3rd of the guide. These I would distribute to my doctors office, Dentist, Chiropractor, Hair Stylist and anyone else I had a professional relationship with and leave them a couple of copies of the guides for their waiting areas and it mattered not if I had a current ad in the guide. I got many clients over the years by delivering those guides.

This is strictly a private civil issue between the agent and the publisher of the guide.

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Originally posted by Jflynn:
Advertising on the publication doesn't give someone the right to insert cards or flyers unless authorized by the publisher and premises merchant.

There is no "duty" to tell the offending agent before turning them in, either.
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Oaks Real Estate Group

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#20592 - 10/10/06 01:10 PM Re: Can this guy do this?
Zhenya Offline
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Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 107
Loc: Los Angeles
All of this arguments about something that people don't even have facts on.

Was this permitted? Did he pay the magazine to have it inserted? The only party effected here is the magazine publisher. Assuming the person inserted the material on his own the magazine can claim that he should've paid for it. Wizard, sorry but you have no case. Your advertisement agreement in the magazine is not exclusive or so I assumed.

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#20593 - 10/10/06 02:34 PM Re: Can this guy do this?
Jflynn Offline
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Registered: 07/16/04
Posts: 2899
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Originally posted by Paul Oaks:
This is strictly a private civil issue between the agent and the publisher of the guide.
Care to wager?
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#20594 - 10/10/06 02:35 PM Re: Can this guy do this?
Paul Oaks Offline
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Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 3370
Loc: Central Illinois
Sure do as there is nothing criminal in what was done!

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Originally posted by Jflynn:
 Quote:
Originally posted by Paul Oaks:
This is strictly a private civil issue between the agent and the publisher of the guide.
Care to wager?
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Paul Oaks
Oaks Real Estate Group

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#20595 - 10/10/06 04:44 PM Re: Can this guy do this?
Wizard Offline
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Registered: 05/24/06
Posts: 16
I called and was told that this person did not have permission to put flyers in the magazine. The person I spoke to said he would look into it, but it sounded like he just wanted to get rid of me.

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