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#204833 - 02/21/08 04:47 AM BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO?
BPO Drone Offline
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Registered: 02/13/08
Posts: 155
Loc: USA
I was asked to do a BPO on a diner for $50.

I was asked to do a BPO on a firehouse for $50.

I was asked to do a BPO on a large retail store (picture Sears) for $50.

I was asked to do a BPO on two houses on one 1/2 acre parcel in the middle of nowhere for $50 (separate septics?, subdividable?, who knows, wing it).

Do you turn in a real ugly BPO or do you turn it down?

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#204850 - 02/21/08 07:21 AM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: BPO Drone]
neudot Offline
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Registered: 11/02/07
Posts: 1753
Loc: Central New York
I have turned in some really ugly bpos when there are no good comps available. Not that I want to do it that way. I figure if they don't like my results, they can pay for a full-blown appraisal. I give them more than their money's worth for their lousy $50 or so bucks. I have never attempted a commercial bpo.

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#204869 - 02/21/08 08:32 AM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: neudot]
Ryan Offline
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Registered: 09/21/07
Posts: 726
Loc: NY
Got one yesterday for three buildings on one lot. Building #1 is an old house (built 1870) being used as the office for the RV storage and firewood sales business being conducted in the other buildings. Contacted the rep for clarification but haven't heard back yet. There aren't any residential comps within 40 miles, and none of the agents in this market use the MLS for commercial.

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#204931 - 02/21/08 12:18 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: Ryan]
OHAgent Offline
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Registered: 02/08/05
Posts: 2783
Loc: Ohio
My most "unique" one was 2 doubles on the same lot in the middle of a neighborhood full of SF. Of course it was in the city, so they wanted all of the comps to be within a mile, sales within 6 months, etc. Of course there were no other comps that had 2 doubles on the same lot and there were only a couple of 4 unit properties in the area and none within 1 mile. I don't do commercial BPOs, so I don't have that problem. I give them the best BPO I can, but sometimes the comps just aren't there.

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#204947 - 02/21/08 02:00 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: OHAgent]
REO Agent NJ Offline
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Registered: 04/22/06
Posts: 215
Loc: New Jersey
40 room abandoned motel.
House with a car painting business (5 bay and 4 bay garages on property)

I did them, just strongly recommended a formal appraisal throughout the report.

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#204950 - 02/21/08 02:13 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: REO Agent NJ]
TC Realtor Offline
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Registered: 10/10/07
Posts: 20
Loc: Twin Cities, MN
A real estate office! At least that was back in the good old days when CW paid $60 for a drive-by.

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#204965 - 02/21/08 03:25 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: TC Realtor]
KT Offline
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 1524
Loc: Ohio
A strip club.

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#204973 - 02/21/08 03:51 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: KT]
Ryan Offline
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Registered: 09/21/07
Posts: 726
Loc: NY
 Quote:
A strip club.


I think I would have provided an inspection of the interior for free.

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#204976 - 02/21/08 04:00 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: Ryan]
Devenity Offline
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Registered: 02/20/08
Posts: 207
Loc: Southeast
I just finished one 2 days ago for a house that was burnt to the ground on 4 acres.

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#204977 - 02/21/08 04:07 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: Devenity]
RealTgalKY Offline
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Registered: 11/12/07
Posts: 148
Loc: KY
14000 sq. ft. 80 year old schoolhouse in a rural area that has 2400' of living space on 4 acres. Very hard to comp. But it made it through today without getting QC'd so we'll see...

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#204979 - 02/21/08 04:20 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: Ryan]
KT Offline
Major Contributor

Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 1524
Loc: Ohio
 Originally Posted By: Ryan
 Quote:
A strip club.


I think I would have provided an inspection of the interior for free.


Not that one you wouldn't have. Glad it was a drive-by. People still talk about that place & it's been closed for years.

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#205054 - 02/21/08 08:09 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: KT]
jgh Offline
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Registered: 01/23/08
Posts: 35
Loc: NJ, USA
I had a 10 acre farm in the suburbs, I had to go 35 miles out for comps.

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#205062 - 02/21/08 08:36 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: jgh]
dumb1 Offline
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Registered: 12/09/07
Posts: 173
Loc: Florida
My little gated community experience today is wacked.
A whole bunch of sold comps, all of them it seems with a foreign address/name and WAY overpaid.
Listing "A" is asking 799,000 and the one next to it 265,000.
125 active listings appears to be about half of all the units in the handful of buildings there.

One of my sold comps 6 months ago for 650,000 is also an active listing for 310,000 and it's not REO.
I can't make any sense of it.

On the same floor of my subject, about same size I have a sold in the last 7 months of 735,000 and another for 320,000.
Both sold within 30 days of each other and have an equal view.
Another listing same floor that appears equal has been listed for 200 days at under 300,000 and by all accounts is in great shape.

I'll land somewhere in the middle of al that crap.

OK, not that hard after all.
Just weird what's going on.


Edited by dumb1 (02/21/08 08:38 PM)

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#205126 - 02/22/08 05:13 AM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: dumb1]
PA Roadkill Offline
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Registered: 11/15/06
Posts: 2050
Loc: The Middle of the Interstate
Had one about a year ago that a regular client called and just asked to do as best I could;

Main building was a tavern built in the early 1800's. Next to it was an old motel (1950's) probably built when the PA turnpike exit was built about 300 yards away. Looked like the motel was being used only for storage, lots of old furniture and matresses piled up outside. On the turnpike side was a stone parking lot for the tavern-restaurant.

It was all on one parcel, but the county line ran through the middle of the property. The property was assessed in one county, but the street address was for a town in the other county.

Took us a while to figure this one out.
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#205169 - 02/22/08 08:59 AM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: PA Roadkill]
Traveler Offline
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Registered: 11/14/00
Posts: 2268
Loc: The Coast
Office condos where nothing has sold in the last 5 years because nobody wants to buy them.

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#205301 - 02/22/08 02:28 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: Traveler]
AliceInReoLand Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: 09/28/07
Posts: 1166
Loc: Land of fruits and nuts.
A mobile home on 40 acres. I had big fun trying to find comps. Thank GOD it was for a BPO mill that rarely send me business cuz I ended up about 15K less than it sold for. It was one ugly BPO.
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#205308 - 02/22/08 02:45 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: Traveler]
Ellen45 Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: 06/13/07
Posts: 1006
Loc: USA
If you can't comp a property, it probably can't be comped. That is, if its so unique that there is nothing to compare it to, it will sell for whatever some fool is willing to pay for it and thinks it is worth. No way can you actually predict what that price will be, except from a strong sense of intuition or maybe a crystal ball.

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#205349 - 02/22/08 03:30 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: Ellen45]
zephyr Offline
Major Contributor

Registered: 08/10/05
Posts: 1662
Loc: Missouri
The one I struggled the most with was a 100+ year old log cabin, all hand-hewn logs, etc, with a 1990 addition and all updated. That wasn't the hard part. It sat on 80 acres with a good 1/4 mile of river frontage in an area where NOTHING had sold within 10 miles in the past 1.5 years. I was advised to find a comp or two for the land and the same for the house, then combine them and comment like crazy. The only river-front land that had sold was about 40 miles away, and about $5000 per acre, but that wasn't realistic in this area. Of course, there aren't a lot of log homes like that around that had sold, either. I thought it was a good price, but a bad report, but I got a thank-you. Seems that one had been assigned to 3 different agents who had all inspected but never completed the report because it was too difficult, then to 1 who had said there was absolutely no value in the house and valued it at only $1000 per acre for the land... That's one agent who was probably hoping it would be a foreclosure and they could snatch it up at that price!
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#205393 - 02/22/08 05:20 PM Re: BPO Brain Twisters What was your hardest BPO? [Re: zephyr]
Artiste Offline
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Registered: 06/12/06
Posts: 1971
Loc: Arizona Bay
I had a drive-by where it was mid-remodel and then vandalized - big old house on a huge swath of land next to a busy thoroughfare. There were no comps and who knows what was behind the boarded up windows? Did the half-completed bathroom need a toilet roller holder and a shower rod? Or was it torn out to the wall studs?

Luckily, it was listed and pending sale - so, knowing that the buyers are the ones who set the price, I valued it at that. What else could I have done? lol
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