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#184183 - 11/30/07 07:48 AM Metatags, Links & Unique visits.
LPI Offline
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Reciprical Links!

I have recently started a website for my wife(www.langstoneteam.com), a realtor in SC, using Point2 Agent. I am very happy with what the site can do so far. Using Point2 you can create a hidden page, not sure if you can do this with all web sites, but presumably you can.

Now here's the question?

If you set some guide lines, because nobody wants to promote direct competition, for arguements sake, say 4 websites per state, that gives you 200 websites. If you created a hidden website page containing reciprical links that you give you 199 links pointing at your websiteand vice versa. Because you would need to check that each link worked, that would create 199 unique visits to each website.

Is this illegal, I don't see why it would be? Is it a good idea, might be?

I wait a response as to why this can't or should not be done?

Alan

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#184195 - 11/30/07 09:10 AM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: LPI]
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What you are suggesting is known as a "link farm" and participation will result in being penalized 100% of the time once discovered or reported.

In the past many template site providers used the strategy in an attempt to make their sites rank in search engines and this would result is banishment of all of their sites.

I found that even once an agent would discontinue using the penalized template provider and set up a custom site in their domain - the penalty would follow them- i.e the new custom site would not be able to rank well in search engines even years after.

Not worth it.
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#184200 - 11/30/07 09:24 AM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: doug]
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Thanks Doug,

For a minute I thought I had re-discovered the wheel. Or the internet version of it.

I'll go back to being stupid now. It's safer!

Alan
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#184208 - 11/30/07 10:11 AM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: LPI]
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Yeah, search engines are aware of all of the tricks - nothing is new anymore. Except for highly competitive large market areas, in most cases you do not actually need as many links as most people think you do in order to compete for your keywords. You just need a handful of good indexable links from older sites that are primarily real estate or that are about your geographic area - and then you need to be patient because the age of a site means a lot nowadays.

Of course you also have to optimize your site for your target keywords as well \:\)
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#184214 - 11/30/07 10:26 AM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: doug]
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Again, Thanks Doug,

So far as far as my knowledge goes, I have done as much with the meta discription and metatags as i can. It took as few days before I could find the site searching on google. It becomes easier to find each day, I think the blog might be helping this?

Alan
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#185242 - 12/04/07 11:06 PM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: LPI]
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Alan,

Yeah, stay away from the link farm. You can build quality links by submitting articles, using social bookmarking, submitting to relevant directories and getting quality link partners. Have you done any of these things? They all take time but are definitely worth it. Doug is right .... patience and domain age (unfortunately).
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#185284 - 12/05/07 08:16 AM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: Jaysonnhs]
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Adding a signature to your forum posts will get the search engines crawling your site more often.
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#185370 - 12/05/07 02:03 PM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: Bigtoe]
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let me "second that" Bigtoe - we get 25-30 hits from our various boards sig links and the crawlers do follow ultimately
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#185730 - 12/06/07 03:08 PM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: Gringo Bob]
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Thanks Guys, Umm signiture what! to where?

Is this a simple as adding website address at bottom of blogs?

Alan
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#185869 - 12/07/07 07:33 AM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: LPI]
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good morning LPI -

go to "my stuff" and select "my profile" from the dropdown, then find the area of your profile to add "signature" and it will attach to all of your postings just like the 3 links below my post above or this one
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#185872 - 12/07/07 07:52 AM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: Gringo Bob]
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And use keywords. Every little bit helps.
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#186012 - 12/07/07 06:11 PM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: Bigtoe]
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Writing unique articles about Real Estate and related topics also helps a ton. Just be sure not to duplicate content (ie. plagiarize) or Google won't give you as good a ranking as if it was written 100% by you.

http://www.copyscape.com is a good resource to check if things you've written have already been written by someone.

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#186386 - 12/10/07 05:49 AM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: LPI]
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Right, I don't fully understand what you are trying to say but this might help.

Forget the links pages and 200 websites (200 websites - that's a hell of a lot of work to solely promote one website, don't you think?), build links on forums, articles, directories, blogs, etc, etc.

But why not create instead of 200 websites 200 pages of quality content? I see on your site you have a homepage link on every page on the side nav and at the bottom of every page? So every week create another couple of pages of new content and the links will build themselves that way.

How many links have you found in google, yahoo and msn that are actually links found on your own website?

E.G - In yahoo you have 17 links, 11 of them are coming from your own site!

Don't exchange links, it is a waste of time and cutting corners will only cause more problems than it's worth.

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#186393 - 12/10/07 07:15 AM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: Richie Spain]
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Thanks, Richie,

Hows the weather over there?

I did the same link search on Google (link: www."your domainname".com)for those who do not know about it, and got 38 links, again mainly from my website.

Is it good or bad that the links are from my own site?

How many does a long running, successful and search engine "found" website get?
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#186394 - 12/10/07 07:19 AM Re: Metatags, Links & Unique visits. [Re: LPI]
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In reply or Question,

From Doug's answer about Link Farms, how do they differ from Real Estate Directories, which free reciprical links are advertised/requested under the Reciprical Link Forum on this site.

Regards
Alan
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