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#204413 - 02/20/08 08:42 AM Re: Beautiful Rates! [Re: cgoulart]
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Are you looking for Jumbo or within Conforming Loan Limits?
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#204514 - 02/20/08 12:27 PM Re: Beautiful Rates! [Re: Greg Phillips]
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Conforming loan limit, California, full doc, 750+ fico. I keep getting cut 5% due to the soft market. Had an approval with wamu, from about a month and a half ago while they were shopping for a home, they are moving it up the ladder to see if they will still honor it at 100%, but I'm not optimistic, would really like to have a backup plan!
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#204563 - 02/20/08 02:41 PM Re: Beautiful Rates! [Re: cgoulart]
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What county is the property in? I have a few idea's.
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#204815 - 02/21/08 01:31 AM Re: Beautiful Rates! [Re: Greg Phillips]
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It's in Contra Costa. I actually found a home, Wells will do it as long as the appraiser does not denote it being in a declining market. They will do it on the freddie mac "home possible" program. Just have to make sure the home they select is not located in a hotbed of foreclosures. Have my wife working with them to find a home, and there are pockets out here that are still stable. They just have to select a home in a stable enough area to make it fly.

If you have another idea, however, I'm all ears. The appraisal will be reviewed, and there is always the potential for them to come back and chop me 5%. Let me know your ideas, I would appreciate it!
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#206642 - 02/26/08 03:35 PM Re: Beautiful Rates! [Re: cgoulart]
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When you ran DU for Fannie Mae did DU show it in a declining market? If not the same rule as Wells would apply to any Agency program at Flagstar Bank.

Let me define it by using a cut/paste of their policy:

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3. The property is in one of the counties defined by Flagstar as being in a declining market. Contra Costa is

Flagstar’s declining markets list follows this memo and is posted in the Electronic Seller’s Guide
under Doc.# 6140.
NOTE: If statement #3 is the only true statement, then Flagstar will consider traditional max
financing if:
a. Internal AVM tools such as LoanIQ, a First American product, indicate that the
subject property zip zone or sales market is stable or appreciating over the past 12
months, OR
b. An appraisal is obtained from one of Flagstar’s four designated appraisal
companies and that appraiser describes in the addendum that he/she has
researched the market and finds that home values have been stable or appreciating
over the last six to twelve months. It is not sufficient to solely have the stable
market box checked in the neighborhood section.


So, this expands the product lines of Fannie Mae back into your offer.
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#206801 - 02/27/08 12:58 AM Re: Beautiful Rates! [Re: Greg Phillips]
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That's great, I like Flagstar more than I like Wells. I will give them a ring in the morning and see what they have to say. I can't believe I didn't run it by them!
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#207122 - 02/27/08 11:53 PM Re: Beautiful Rates! [Re: cgoulart]
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I talked with Flagstar today, they do have declining markets by county marked for an LTV cut, Contra Costa being one of them, no 100%. So far, Wells is all I've found!
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#208038 - 03/02/08 03:16 AM Re: Beautiful Rates! [Re: cgoulart]
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I have heard rumors of a USDA loan that will go to 102% in certain cities that match their parameters. Gotta think creative in a market like this.
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#209488 - 03/07/08 09:23 AM Re: Beautiful Rates! [Re: Prodigy]
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cgoulart, the memo explains how it works. If you login to their site and read the 4 or 5 memo's regarding declining markets you will see what Flagstar can and cannot do.

I am jumping onto a soap box for a second. We as loan officers rely too much on what other people tell us. If you read guidelines like and underwriter you will know exactly what to expect on your loans. When your 1 yr in the business account rep tells you we can do it and you submit the deal to find out they cannot.... Or, you call some customer service rep paid 10 bucks an hour.... Take complete control of your loan!

cgoulart this is not directed at you. It is a general statement.

I said that Contra Costa is on the declining markets list. Then I cut/pasted the memo that is Flagstars policy. If your property meets both requirements in the memo known as a. and b. the declining market cut can be lifted.

So, I would try to pull that memo, call back, and tell them the way you and I read it.

Adam,
Yes, but they charge a 2% fee. So, it is 100% financing. There are geographical requirements and income restrictions.

The best thing about USDA is if you have a 620 score you are approved. USDA Stremeline

You could be 1 day out of foreclosure or bankruptcy. You do not need to explain and derogatory credit nor pay it off.
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#210951 - 03/11/08 09:38 PM Re: Beautiful Rates! [Re: Greg Phillips]
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The 2% is for pre-paid MI though so you don't have to worry about that at least. The income restrictions are fairly reasonable though, 120% of the median income for the area.
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#211708 - 03/14/08 02:44 PM Re: Beautiful Rates! [Re: Prodigy]
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Thank you, I will see if I can make it fly.
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#212376 - 03/17/08 01:51 PM Re: Beautiful Rates! [Re: cgoulart]
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Don't get me wrong though. The lenders are tightening by the day.

They released a new memo about declining markets I have not read yet. Make sure and go in the memo's section and read some of their changes.


2% is a Guarantee Fee.. There is no PMI on USDA.
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