#170176 - 09/18/07 05:07 PM
Do you allow pets in your rentals?
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Loc: Minneapolis, MN
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If you allow pets in your rentals, what guidelines, rules, fees, and deposits do you require? Do you have any limitations on size and types of pets? What do you do if the pet shows up after they move in?
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#170211 - 09/18/07 07:48 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: ScottFicek]
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Loc: NC
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I am interested in hearing as well...
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#173380 - 10/02/07 11:07 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: Coastal NC Agent]
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No pets/No smoking......No exceptions.
My leases include Pet Violation charges: $200 for the 1st day and $25 per day thereafter. I try to make it VERY clear to our tenants at the time that they sign the lease that there will be no exceptions and that violation charges will be enforced.
I do routine maintenance checks so it's not likely they'll get away with it.
I know that sounds harsh, it's all in the way you explain it to the tenant(s). I spend a lot of money making sure that my properties are in good condition and just want to make sure they stay that way.
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#175168 - 10/11/07 10:52 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: ETR]
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I have heard from professional property managers that dogs are ok sometimes but cats usually aren't ever a good idea. I think with a large deposit pets could be fine but no smoking is always a must.
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#175227 - 10/12/07 10:49 AM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: RealtorInCA]
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Its great if you can keep your property occupied and hold the line on no pets. Unfortunately this doesn't apply to your average rental property. Think about it like this... Approx 65% of the poplulation has some type of pet. If you don't allow them, you are now left with only 35% of the population to rent to. That can make things tough if you are in a competitive rental market.
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#175230 - 10/12/07 11:08 AM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: Coastal NC Agent]
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Yup. We are major dog people ourselves so we do allow pets as long as the tenant pays extra deposit $ & everything else, ie credit & income check out.
Back in the day many yrs ago I when I was a renter & had large dogs (still do)& I appreciate the many landlords who allowed them.
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#175271 - 10/12/07 03:48 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: Loan Diva]
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What about, seeing eye dogs, or companion pets? You guys that say no pets, what do you do in that instance?
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#175272 - 10/12/07 03:54 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: KT]
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ADA prohibits discrimmination if the dog ameliorates any type of disability. IOW you can't exclude service dogs.
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#175274 - 10/12/07 04:03 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: Loan Diva]
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Oh, I didn't write what I meant very well, sorry. I was moreso thinking, is there a bigger than norm deposit, or something.
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#177198 - 10/24/07 12:02 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: SailorKev]
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Registered: 10/23/07
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Loc: NYC
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I never really understood why people do rent to people with animals considering there will almost certainly be more wear and tear in the unit. However, when you said that 65% of the population has pets it makes it a little easier to understand. However, have any of you ever had serious troubles renting when you impose the no smoking / no pets rule? I think it makes longer term sense to not allow pets / smoking. Can't really see a major upside to allow it.
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#182084 - 11/17/07 04:48 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: SailorKev]
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I have recently started managing a mixed-use building for some out of area owners (three apartments, two store-fronts). Two of the apartment renters were there when I inherited the management. I find out today that one tenant that I have yet to meet because she's never there when I'm there, has two dogs. This building is for sale, and a prospective buyer got to see this mystery unit. He says the dog stench is incredible and the carpets are ruined. Now another tenant tells me that the dog-owner allows the dogs to urinate off the side of one of the porches in the winter. Obviously, I've got to get in that unit asap. Another tenant has a cat, that doesn't seem to be a problem. Of course, the only tenant who hasn't had a pet up to now (but who just got a kitten) wants to know how come her lease says no pets, but everyone else has one? I can see this is an issue that will be occupying my time this coming week. I have informed the owners that we have a problem here, and we need to do something about it. It's so much easier to have a no-pet policy from the onstart, instead of trying to deal with it later.
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#234013 - 06/21/08 11:47 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: JiminVA]
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I only allow dogs and it is a case by case decision. Nothing like Doberman or German Shepard. Mainly dogs under 25#. But I do require renters insurance and have me named as secondary covered. In the instance a neighbor comes over and sticks their finger through the fence and gets bit, the renters insurance kicks in first protecting us the rental owner before we would have to file a claim. Besides, renters insurance is very advantageous for landlords and is a great thing to require!
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#234015 - 06/22/08 12:06 AM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: Jake0125]
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Registered: 08/03/07
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Loc: Minneapolis, MN
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I agree with the 25 pound dog rule. It keeps out aggressive breeds.
I do think you are relying too heavily on the renters having or keeping insurance. Short of having them produce proof of insurance every year, you can't be assured they do have a policy in effect. Plus, if that neighbor gets bit you are also getting sued (don't fool yourself).
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#234491 - 06/24/08 04:23 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: ScottFicek]
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Registered: 06/16/08
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Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Thanks for your note Scott. I do allow pets in my rentals, but just ask for an extra deposit. I hope this helps! Thanks for sharing.
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#239285 - 07/21/08 08:03 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: JiminVA]
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Registered: 07/19/08
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Loc: New York, NY
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i charge my tenant $500 in additional deposit when they moved in, I have wooden floors so i'm not too worried about the cats
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#239737 - 07/23/08 08:26 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: Greg Phillips]
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Not carpeting and padding, but had to totally sand and refinish hardwood floors after evicting a guy with 7 cats.
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#241729 - 08/01/08 02:23 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: Illinois Agent]
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If they're renting one of my houses with a fenced yard, I allow dogs. But, no Rottweilers, no Pit Bulls, no Dobermans. And the dog has to make friends with me!
Cats are welcome at all my places; and caged birds and fish too.
I do not charge pet deposits. If someone in 2nd floor triplex apt. gets a dog after moving in, that's grounds for terminating the lease. And I'll take them to small claims court if necessary.
Have had minimal to no pet damage so far, and have been renting to pet owners for 5 years this time around (had rentals in the 80s then quit for 10 yrs).
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#252137 - 09/27/08 05:50 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: barb43]
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We allow dogs under 25lbs. 1 month non refundable pet deposit per dog with a maximum of 2. It makes it much easier for us to find good tenants that are less likely to leave because they have difficulty finding other rents that will allow pets.
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#252430 - 09/29/08 08:48 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: October2006]
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What exactly do you mean by non refundable?
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#269000 - 01/13/09 02:34 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: JiminVA]
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In Ontario, we have to allow pets in any rental unit. Any agreement with a "no pets" clause is completely voidable by law. We are also not allowed to charge deposits. We can only ask for one term rent at signing (a week or month's rent) instead of "first or last". Our only recourse is to sue for damages after the fact. It's interesting to see the difference in my American counterparts. You can check out our legalities for rentals at http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_06r17_e.htm if you are interested.
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#269288 - 01/14/09 06:32 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: JiminVA]
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Registered: 12/31/08
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Loc: Maryland
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I own numerous rental properties myself. When I purchased my first rental property I thought "no pets" just made sense, so that became my policy. I've been renting properties for 13 years now and I've rethought my initial policy. I do allow pets with guidelines. I must meet the pet first. I always insist that the tenant use a local vet and provide copies of all health records, recent vacinations etc. on a yearly basis. I do charge a pet deposit fee around $300, which can be refundable should the pet not cause any damage. If the property has carpet, I will make a portion of the pet deposit non-refundable as carpet will definitely need professionally cleaned...maybe not from the pet using the bathroom in the home, but pets feet can track dirt into the home.
I have found that tenants with pets seem to stay in my rental properties much longer then tenants without pets. I set strict guidelines on yard cleanup, noise, odors, leash, etc. I've not have any issues since leasing units to pet owners. I would insist on meeting the pet before making a decision to rent to the pet owner. Someone may tell you they have a beagle mix that turns out to be a pitbull mix.
My wife worked at the local humane society so we learned alot about pet behavior patterns. It is fairly simple to gauge the reactions you get from the pet to certain actions you can present to the pet. This will tell you if the pet has agressive habits etc. I would suggest you visit with the humane society and ask for a copy of their pet behavior test checklist. These are usually very indepth and will give you some guidance as to what steps you might take to help determine if the pet is agressive. You may also want to make a habit of asking for any pet graduation certificates from obedience schools etc. This usually lets you know that the pet parent is a good parent and concerned about the behaviour of their pet.
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#270523 - 01/21/09 11:13 AM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: JiminVA]
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We allow cats, dogs, and fish but not ferrets. Seriously. Our tenants can even have as many fish as they want! We charge a $25 fee per pet and an additional $100 security deposit per pet.
I am currently working on a quality rehab and for that property I won't allow any pets, no matter how much additional money the tenants are willing to py.
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#270552 - 01/21/09 12:40 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: VAInvestor]
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We allow cats, dogs, and fish but not ferrets. Seriously. Our tenants can even have as many fish as they want! We charge a $25 fee per pet and an additional $100 security deposit per pet. I suppose that could get into some real serious money if, for example, a Tenant had like a Tank Full of 180 Guppies . . . . or is One Tank considered One Pet ?
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#270595 - 01/21/09 04:42 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: Vermont]
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Vermont, your posting had me laughing... now that's capitalism at its best.
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#270603 - 01/21/09 05:02 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: RC21]
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And these Guppies can reproduce, they're like bunnies. Does that mean non-stop pet deposit income?
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#270608 - 01/21/09 05:07 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: RC21]
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Sorry 'bout that; but I was just visualizing the LandLord's Monthly Pet Audit . . . . coming in to count all them Pet Fish.
Reminded me of an ancient Leave it to Beaver Episode where to brew up a Pet Shop's Business, a prize was offered to who ever could correctly guess the number of fish in a Tank.
They wouldn't hold still to be counted, and people would go cross-eyed.
And Guppies are continually reproducing (right there in Public !) . . . . like Rodents. I think Martha Stewart would say "It's a Good Thing !"
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#312984 - 11/08/09 07:44 AM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: LilDarlin]
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Nothin' wrong with "Old Posts". Most of them talk about the same issues that plague our business today. They're caused by Human Beans, who change very slowly . . . . or not at all.
This subject will always be with us . . . . like most other subjects that have been brought up since this Forum was created.
Thanks for reading!
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#315256 - 11/25/09 07:03 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: JiminVA]
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People with pets usually have a harder time finding a place to rent, so if you have a 'pet-friendly' building you can usually charge a higher amount of rent and collect a pet deposit.
The amount you can collect varies by state, so be sure to check with your local HUD office on deposit requirements.
I usually don't rent to people with pets in units that have carpets. I have personally found that having hardwood floors is much more conducive to pets.
If you choose to, you can also set the parameters for size and breed of dog you accept.
You must spell all of this out in your lease however. It will not be enforceable if you don't write it in.
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#317307 - 12/11/09 01:24 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: JiminVA]
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Pets..ugh. A nightmare to a landlord. Usually charge a $250 non- refundable fee for pets. Should be more like $2000 because when a pet has done it's duty in the home it's unlikely that cleaning the carpets will be sufficient to make the unit rentable again. Most times I have found the carpet has to be replaced. That costs way more than $250.
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#317520 - 12/12/09 12:16 PM
Re: Do you allow pets in your rentals?
[Re: mWoods]
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Registered: 12/12/09
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Loc: Oregon
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Pets are OK. You just have to be sensible about it. Don't let someone with a Saint Bernard rent a condo. You will have issues.
We don't allow Pitbulls and Rotweilers. I know that will upset many pet lovers.....Oh well. Those are the breeds that we have had 99% of our problems from.
Yes, charge a pet deposit. We usually charge $300/dog, $400 for two. We never allow more than 2 dogs and 2 cats, which is a tall order in and of itself.
If you do allow Pets, we always perform a 1 month move in inspection to make sure things are savvy.
Good luck, Patrick Rents2Riches.com
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