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#168565 - 09/09/07 10:23 PM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Mike Parks]
Inspectorjeff Moderator Offline
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Hello Mike. Long time no chat. I hope all is well.
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#168580 - 09/10/07 12:27 AM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Gulf Winds]
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Gulf,
You are entitled to your opinion but when it is exactly opposite what my attorney has stated it is a no brainer to trust the attorney since he is the legal expert and you are the real estate broker.


Also I really could not care less about your "advice" even though you seem to feel you are more competent with legal advice than my attorney nor did I seek your advice. You felt compeled to give it telling me that despite what I was told by my attorney it could be considered an endorsement.

Sound like you are the one that needs to come down from the big horse till you finish law school and pass the bar. So in response to your "call out" you can kiss my pompous attitude.


 Originally Posted By: Gulf Winds
Paul:

You really should get off your high and mighty horse! If you don't like my advice, then so be it, but don't resort to being a condescending p%^&*. It's a shame that you seem to get your jollies out of berating and believing that you are so superior to everyone else here.

I have no desire to continue a debate with you but felt as though you deserved to be called out for your pompous attitude!
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#168581 - 09/10/07 12:36 AM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Inspectorjeff]
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Then it sounds like you may have been one of those GC's to be on the lookout for! I never said all gc's great. There are bad gc's just as there are bad agents and Inspectors.

Why would I be bitter over inspectors? I have never personally lost a deal due to an inspector nor has any home I build or rehabbed failed an inspection. As an investor doing a rehab I do it right the first time because I believe in quality workmanship.

Your generalization on gc's is crap and you know it so if you honestly feel that an inspector that took a class or is in a state requiring no license is better than an experienced gc with a good reputation then you have your head buried in the sand.

 Originally Posted By: Inspectorjeff
Paul,

If GC's were as competent as you believe, there would be no need for inspectors. It sounds as if you are "bitter" toward inspectors rather than "critical" of them.

I've been in the trades for over 25 years, in various forms including GC. I know how the game is played.
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#168582 - 09/10/07 12:43 AM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Mike Parks]
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Mike,
Just curious but I noticed you are a licensed plumbing and electrical contractor as well as an inspector. Do you feel that every inspector is more competent in electrical and plumbing than you are?

 Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
Jeff

First hey. Second I agree with you.

Here is an example of what Jeff and I would find.
http://activerain.com/blogsview/198897/Footer-Inspection-New-Construction
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#168684 - 09/10/07 03:02 PM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Paul Oaks]
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Paul

I do not understand your question.
Please ask it again so that I can answer you properly.
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#168686 - 09/10/07 03:19 PM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Mike Parks]
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Let me break it down for you.
1. You posted the following;
Jeff

First hey. Second I agree with you.

Here is an example of what Jeff and I would find.
http://activerain.com/blogsview/198897/Footer-Inspection-New-Construction

2.I noticed on your site that you are a licensed Plumbing and Electrical contractor. The question was Very simple.
Do You believe that every Home Inspector is as well qualified in PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL systems as you are?

 Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
Paul

I do not understand your question.
Please ask it again so that I can answer you properly.
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#168752 - 09/10/07 09:12 PM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Paul Oaks]
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^^^ sad ^^^
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#168806 - 09/11/07 02:23 AM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Gulf Winds]
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Now Gulf Don't Cry!

 Originally Posted By: Gulf Winds
^^^ sad ^^^
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#168833 - 09/11/07 08:27 AM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Paul Oaks]
Mike Parks Offline
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Loc: Columbus Ohio
Paul

The way that you asking it I would have to say no. In the same way I would say that an attorney is more qualified that a Realtor. Not saying more knowledgeable.
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#169433 - 09/13/07 07:12 PM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Mike Parks]
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Each professional has their place.

Attorneys practice law, Agents/Brokers buy and sell property, Inspectors inspect, and GC's build.

To say a GC is more qualified to inspect than an inspector is (in the words of Paul) crap. It's really just that simple. . .
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#169464 - 09/13/07 11:25 PM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Inspectorjeff]
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Registered: 04/18/05
Posts: 114
Loc: Lexington Ky.
Im honored to have started such a warm exchange. If you had a house inspected by a GC or a home inspector you will have different lists with common valid items on both. Nobody finds everything and nobody is perfect. I just had a home inspector say he could put his hand through the band board of a house it was so rotten. When the GC went to check it out he could not find the same problem. There was alot of debris around the area and the inspector inferred damage. Damage that had already been repaired. The inspector got 9 out of 10 right and 1 wrong. My clients passed on the house and the seller is spending $14,000 to make repairs to a house they have owned for less than 1 year. Yes it was inspected before they purchased. They were in Wyoming and the house was in KY and the inspector only found three minor items, including the rotted band board. The buyers realtor supervised the inspection and repair. My clients inspection found carbon monoxide in the house from broken heat exchange = 2 new furnaces, 2 new heat pumps cause they are 20 years old, water damage in the exterior and that paper faced siding that was recalled and the object of a class action law suit. The original inspector never mentioned this but my guy was right on 95% of it. and yes I reccommend inspectors, aggressive ones who are sometimes wrong but are happy to be corrected.

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#169465 - 09/13/07 11:32 PM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Inspectorjeff]
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Loc: Central Illinois
Whatever Jeff,
You seem to forget there are some states where every bubba with a pickup and a clipboard can call themselves a Home Inspector. I also knw a few contractors that also do home inpections but if yo want to believe that every HI is a professional then so be it!

 Originally Posted By: Inspectorjeff
Each professional has their place.

Attorneys practice law, Agents/Brokers buy and sell property, Inspectors inspect, and GC's build.

To say a GC is more qualified to inspect than an inspector is (in the words of Paul) crap. It's really just that simple. . .
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#169533 - 09/14/07 01:45 PM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Paul Oaks]
Inspectorjeff Moderator Offline
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Loc: Santa Clarita, CA
You seem to forget that a state license doesn't create competence or accountability in a GC. Just like picking up a clipboard doesn't create a home inspector.

All things being equal, a consumer should always look to a professional Home Inspector to inspect their purchase. Furthermore, the consumer should always check references and verify that the inspector is insured, just as they would if they were to hire a GC to do a room addition or any other project.
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JPI Home Inspection Service
Santa Clarita CA
(661) 212-0738
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#169537 - 09/14/07 02:35 PM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Inspectorjeff]
Paul Oaks Offline
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Loc: Central Illinois
Jeff,
I am definately Not forgetting that as state license does not create competence. That Was my Point but it seems you like it better when you say it from the Home Inspectors perspective!


 Originally Posted By: Inspectorjeff
You seem to forget that a state license doesn't create competence or accountability in a GC. Just like picking up a clipboard doesn't create a home inspector.

All things being equal, a consumer should always look to a professional Home Inspector to inspect their purchase. Furthermore, the consumer should always check references and verify that the inspector is insured, just as they would if they were to hire a GC to do a room addition or any other project.
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#169792 - 09/16/07 12:51 AM Re: My inspector is nicknamed the neutron bomb [Re: Paul Oaks]
Chris Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 210
Loc: CA
in no particular order. . .

As a buyer, I would not think much of an agent who could not give me some recommendations of people in the trades that I could contact or may want to use. I would expect my agent to be knowledgeable and have contacts.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the agent who won't recommend service providers for fear of being sued constantly reminds clients and prospects to refer him or her to other people.

Personally, I would probably hire the neutron bomb inspector at least once to see how it goes. I love thorough inspections and I would read all 26 pages of the report. If the explanation was long-winded but the problem was insignificant, I can explain that and easily encourage a buyer to purchase.

Maybe our area is rare, but we have a lot of general contractors who do inspections.

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