Agents Online Real Estate Forums, Discussion, Realtors Marketing Tips

Follow AgentsOnline on Twitter

Click Here to display our logo on your site and link to us!
AgentsOnline Real Estate Discussion Forums Logo

Good Ideas
Nusetlock.com




REO Prep Foreclosure Listings




BPO REO Secret System




How To Advertise Here

More Good Ideas!
real estate newsletters


Real Estate Websites for Realtors




Build your brand on a Real Estate Site





Facebook
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#149161 - 06/19/07 06:44 PM Prudentials VRM.. how is it handled in your MLS???
Gulf Winds Offline
REO Slave
Major Contributor

Registered: 02/04/06
Posts: 1715
Loc: USA
I am on the MLS committee for our local association of Realtors and we have several disputes that have been presented to us.

I would like your comments on how your association/MLS views and requires inputting listings with Value Range Marketing in your MLS system. Do you have a special range field or requirement for this type of marketing? What price is used in the List Price field?

We do not have a field to input a listing "range" and the local agents are inputting a price, just above the lower price in the "range". This is proving to be confusing & disappointing for many buyers and agents as they are under the impression that an "offer" within the "range" would be accepted by the seller(s). I know that they are using the word "entertain" but we all know that we must present any and all offers. Therefore, a seller is already entertaining offers.

Example:
List Price in MLS: $170,195

Statement in Agent remarks:
Above price reflects VRM #26: Sellers will entertain offers between $170,000 and $195,000.

This case involves a selling agent submitting an offer (cash, no contingencies) for $170,195 (the lower price in the range) and the offer was countered at $195,000 (the upper price range).

The selling agent then asked the listing agent "under what circumstance the Seller would consider the $170,195" that was in MLS as the list price. The verbal response was that under no circumstances would the Seller consider $170,195. The selling agent then asked for written confirmation, yet only received a curt response via fax that the counter stood at $195,000.

Thank you for any comments and for sharing how your association/MLS handles this type of marketing.

Thank you!
_________________________
"There are people who make things happen, there are people who watch things happen, and there are people who wonder what happened. To be successful, you need to be a person who makes things happen.." - James Lovell- Astronaut

Top
#149290 - 06/20/07 02:26 PM Re: Prudentials VRM.. how is it handled in your MLS??? [Re: Gulf Winds]
A & M Team Properties, Inc. Offline
Member

Registered: 12/19/05
Posts: 478
Loc: Eastern United States
I am an agent with Prudential- and overall no one in our area uses VRM for reasons similar to the one you presented. Here is an article from our Knowledgebase on MRIS, our MLS. I don't think it fully answers your question, but this is how it is handled here.

-Andrea

Article ID: 21561
Last Modified: 06/16/06


Value Range Pricing (VRP)
Question/Issue
What is Value Range Pricing (VRP) and how do I use it?


Resolution
Value Range Pricing or VRP, is one of the hottest new trends in Real Estate. VRP will provide the seller with the opportunity to achieve a premium price above the standard method of "fixed value". VRP is designed to attract offers, open negotiations and achieve the maximum sales price for your property. For example, a home is valued at $500,000. It is listed by the agent with a VRP of $475,000 to $525,000. This exposes the property to more buyers who might not have crossed paths had the listing been at a higher fixed price. MRIS allows agents to enter a listing with VRP.

To enter a listing in Keystone using a VRP:

Open your listing to the General Information page.
Next to Value Range Pricing select Yes as your option.
Click on Save.



4. Under the Value Range Pricing field, the Low Price field is now shown. This field is mandatory and the lowest acceptable price must be entered.



5. To search for Value Range Pricing listings in Matrix, you must add two search fields to the search screen. These are VRP and ListingLowPrice.



When using the VPR field in Matrix you are given two options, Yes or No. By selecting No, the system populates the Low Price to be equal to the fixed listing price. By selecting Yes, only listings which an agent has specified the low price in Keystone are shown. Usually, the list price is higher than the low price.

If the price is specified in both fields, ListingLowPrice and List Price, the system will return results to match both criteria. Most agents expect that when the ListingLowPrice is $500,000 and the List Price is $525,000, the search should bring all listings with list price of $500,000 to $525,000 but this is not the case. The system is going to look for all listings with low price of $500,000 AND a list price of $525,000. The listings will have those exact numbers as added into the search fields. The ListingLowPrice field is a different field from the List Price field.

The best results are achieved when only one search field is used, either ListingLowPrice or List Price. Yoiu can use price ranges on both fields.


Disclaimer
The information provided in the MRIS KNOWLEDGE BASE is provided "AS IS" without warranty of any kind. MRIS disclaims all warranties, either express or implied, including the warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose In no event shall MRIS or its suppliers be liable for any damages whatsoever including direct, indirect, incidental, consequential, loss of business profits or special damages, even if MRIS or its suppliers have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Some States do not allow the exclusion or limitation of liability for consequential or incidental damages so the foregoing limitation may not apply.

Top
#149310 - 06/20/07 03:11 PM Re: Prudentials VRM.. how is it handled in your MLS??? [Re: A & M Team Properties, Inc.]
Gulf Winds Offline
REO Slave
Major Contributor

Registered: 02/04/06
Posts: 1715
Loc: USA
Thanks Andrea! I appreciate you taking the time to reply!
_________________________
"There are people who make things happen, there are people who watch things happen, and there are people who wonder what happened. To be successful, you need to be a person who makes things happen.." - James Lovell- Astronaut

Top
#149383 - 06/20/07 08:51 PM Re: Prudentials VRM.. how is it handled in your MLS??? [Re: Gulf Winds]
REODayton Offline
Major Contributor

Registered: 07/27/06
Posts: 3699
Loc: Dayton Ohio
I've never heard of VRP. Is this becoming commen?

Top
#149393 - 06/20/07 09:16 PM Re: Prudentials VRM.. how is it handled in your MLS??? [Re: REODayton]
Mr. Foreclosure Offline
Major Contributor

Registered: 09/01/06
Posts: 2834
Loc: upstate New York
Several years ago the agency that I was with at the time (an old Better Homes and Gardens franchised broker) attempted using VRP pricing to stimulate sales. It compounded a number of problems and ultimately we went back to traditional pricing.

Top
#149428 - 06/20/07 10:48 PM Re: Prudentials VRM.. how is it handled in your MLS??? [Re: Mr. Foreclosure]
A & M Team Properties, Inc. Offline
Member

Registered: 12/19/05
Posts: 478
Loc: Eastern United States
I will say this.. I can see VRM working in a sellers market very very well. Example.. CMA values the house at 260k, but you don't want to limit yourself to just 260 (2005) so you list it in a VRM range of say 255 to 270 ( I don't know the actual ranges, sorry). In a seller's market, VRM could work fabulously for a seller. Buyer's would be more likely to offer a bit towards the higher end of the range I would think if it was a competitive market. In today's buyer's market, I don't know that I can come up with a good reason to use VRM.

As far as listing a property's list price at the low end of the value range, my gut says it shouldn't be done that way. If not the top of the range, then at the very least the dead middle of the range, with comments as to the value range the sellers will truly consider. Just my thoughts...

-A

Top






Google Custom Forum Search

This Google Custom search may do a better job of searching the forums for some keywords than the old forum search does. The results do not include threads from the Asset Managers Forum however. To search that forum you will need to be actually in the Asset Managers Forum and you will need to use the old forum search below.
Search

Good Ideas!
real estate newsletters




How To Advertise Here

Sponsors

Newest Members
Josh Parks, rockstar45177, JLD MIAMI TEAM, DaneHooper, Will Sell Homes
21431 Registered Users
Who's Online
9 registered (Angie 0729, OrlandoAgent, 5 invisible), 133 Guests and 0 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box

Top Posters (30 Days)
Vermont 85
Brit16 51
KingofBPOs 48
shurdul 45
DueDiligence 43
johnnyloans 35
Bigtoe 35
Kjmendy 34
Averis 34
SoldWithVideo 32
super realtor 30
RIzwan 29
Doin' bpose 28
75Corvette 28
Scintillion 25
(Views)Popular Topics
No new orders today 4743361
I MAKE 100 COLD CALLS EVERY DAY & LOVE IT! 2693773
Stupid MLS comments. 957031
EML 458010
Evalonline 299689
What do you know about Froy Candelario, top agent in USA 290286
Land America 285007
New HUD Listing Brokers---Any Update? 268546
Mainstreet 261768
Pay it Forward - BPO/REO Tips & Tricks I & II 238927
Stupid QC comments and BPO requirements. 229462
Is there religious content in Buffini class? 225296
FARVV 177251
REOTRANS 160574
USRES / RES.NET 147658
Let's talk about our cars 147038
asset val seminar in colorado 143936
AVM Bpos 139642
FARVV 126764
PAS 118332
Featured Member
Registered: 11/03/07
Posts: 2335

How To Advertise Here


This site presented by RNC Internet Services