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#143893 - 05/29/07 05:34 PM
Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
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One year and four Realtors later sellers seeks answers!
I have a person who continues to wander into our office looking for advice on selling his home!
I`ve known this man for 18months. His attempts to sell his $679,000 home has been futile! Numerous times we`ve told him "You get what you pay for"...That means you don`t hire your ex-girlfriend who just got her Real Estate license, the school teacher who moonlights as a Realtor when convenient or a pastor who thinks our job isn`t that difficult as it appears! I kid you not these were the people who were selling this man`s home.
I believe it`s time that NAR makes us disclose to the public that either we`re Full Time or Part Time Realtors to the general public. Most sellers would appreciate knowing who`s selling their home!
This job entails working 6.5 days a week ,16 hours a day.
We take pride in telling a client to look for our ads in magazines, net,flyer's, open houses,and virtual tours. We are Realtors who are available to answer questions, show properties and make sure that you`re home is sold!
That being said, the person walked into our office today, actually told me that his friend the "pastor" had his home sold, but the deal collapsed.The closing was set for April 17th,yet his agent never notified him of why it wasn`t closing.
Today, his friend finally admits that the deal is dead! Holy mackerel! It`s almost June and this poor guy is thinking his home was sold! The seller finally has hit bottom and I guess after watching home sales nose dive decides to place his home with someone with a proven track record!
I just completed the listing agreement,after careful due diligence we agree together to list the home for $630,000.. One year and four Realtors later, he finally agreed to use a professional!
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#143897 - 05/29/07 05:42 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: realestatefla1]
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Part time. But I dont work everyday and i'm reacheable even at my full time job. Having to disclose such a thing would be unfair to the decent part-timers. There are just as many "full time" agents that actually still do "part time" work. Frankly I'm getting kinda p.o.'d at people wanting to lump agents into categories to gain an advertising advantage.Whats next, race? I know a parttime agent that did three sales here and there and one of them was a 650,000 house. I know a full time agent that hasnt sold a home yet.
Edited by Merkaba (05/29/07 05:43 PM)
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#143899 - 05/29/07 05:45 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: realestatefla1]
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This job entails working 6.5 days a week ,16 hours a day.
If anyone has to work that much, they are in the WRONG business. Or they are very slow at what they do. I would have to make tons of money to work that much, and not have time to enjoy my life. That is completely ridiculous. I dont care if it is a career in real estate or a dog walker. If I ever have to work that much in real estate, I better be making so much money that I wouldn't know what to do with it. Which I dont see happening.
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#143925 - 05/29/07 07:22 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: realestatefla1]
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I'll pull 8-12 hour days 6-7 days a week (except today I was a bum) but 16 hrs is too much for me. When I pull 12 hour days I usually go into the office between 6 and 7.
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#143933 - 05/29/07 08:56 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: Merkaba]
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Part time. But I dont work everyday and i'm reacheable even at my full time job. Having to disclose such a thing would be unfair to the decent part-timers. There are just as many "full time" agents that actually still do "part time" work. Frankly I'm getting kinda p.o.'d at people wanting to lump agents into categories to gain an advertising advantage.Whats next, race? I know a parttime agent that did three sales here and there and one of them was a 650,000 house. I know a full time agent that hasnt sold a home yet. Yep, I know a few part timers that are more dedicated and do more work than full timers.
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#143935 - 05/29/07 09:12 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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It might be more meaningful to ask how long they have been in the business than how much time they currently spend at it. If you have "staying power" it will speak to your success; many of the new agents wash out in 6 months to 2 years. The expense side of the ledger makes it a bit "pricey" as a hoppy!
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#143944 - 05/29/07 09:48 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: Mr. Foreclosure]
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What are you doing 16 hours per day. Can you give us a hypothetical blow-by-blow?
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#143953 - 05/29/07 10:18 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: realestatefla1]
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"This job entails working 6.5 days a week ,16 hours a day."
I work about 2 hours a day, four days a week -- on average -- and I consider myself to be a full-time agent.
Realtyeyes
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#143957 - 05/29/07 10:21 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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And are you married, or divorced? Or single? If you are single, you should plan on staying that way, unless all you want in a compantion is a roommate.
(not Ashley, but the OP) I know a mortgage guy who bragged that he was available 24/7 and would take calls even during his dinner hour. He is now divorced. I knew you didn't mean me Perky.
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#143963 - 05/29/07 10:29 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: realestatefla1]
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In all seriousness, if a person wants to view a listing of yours on a Tuesday morning after seeing your sign, what do you do?
Same thing I would do if I have an appointment with another client, a closing to go to, or I am on vacation. I have my back-up cover me or the floor person will be more than happy to show it. I am a full time agent (whatever the heck that really means) that does not = being available for everyone that calls me. I am only one person after all. In spite of the new math I have been using lately.
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#143976 - 05/29/07 11:12 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: Realtyeyes]
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"This job entails working 6.5 days a week ,16 hours a day."
I work about 2 hours a day, four days a week -- on average -- and I consider myself to be a full-time agent.
Realtyeyes
that sounds good to me!
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#144004 - 05/30/07 12:47 AM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: JoeyBagadonuts]
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I'd be pretty grouchy if I had to work more than 5-6 days a week. My team is off Sundays and we work 10am-2pm on Saturdays by appointment. Other than that, one rule of thumb is that you're being inefficient or you need to get an assistant if you can't stick to 8-5 or 9-6pm.
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#144065 - 05/30/07 10:26 AM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: Dee in Austin]
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I work when I have to - appointments to suit both the clients and my schedule. Because I serve them on a full-time basis and we are of a DINK family, I can pretty much around alot of people's schedule. But that will have to change pretty soon. Right now, I work weekends when I have to and if my clients want me to do Open Houses, I typically tell them I work every other weekend. I have a much better suggestion than Open Houses anyways so I will probably do very little of them.
The rest of my time is used to do business planning. I noticed that I do think about stuff like this alot of the time. So, would you consider that work hours? How do you really log in those hours? I am physically doing real estate stuff from 730am to about 230pm. Then I take a 4-5 hour break and continue to read after dinner time. I am taking my broker's license soon so I need to study. Otherwise, when my husband works from home after dinner, I read next to him or watch TV. I have just learnt to watch TV. (When I was doing RE and working my corporate job, there wasnt anytime like that). So I must say, a full-time schedule with real estate helps me relax and enjoy life a little.
If you consider those waking and thinking hours as work hours, then yes, I work alot. I work most of the time too. It's not that I do not know how to separate business with pleasure but I am a learner everywhere I go. I learn to put teachable moments in my life.
I know of an agent who makes a 6-figure income and he calls himself PT. He did that for 3 yrs (consistently winning 6-figure income, he said he earns twice from RE than he is at his FT job). Part-time, full-time, there's never an end to this debate. You are what you say you are.
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#144203 - 05/30/07 06:36 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: realestatefla1]
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Joey, Thanks for the response. We have completed 34 transactions Y-T-D, I don`t mind working these hours.I love doing it! Don`t get me wrong J.G. I have alot of respect for those who can put in a 40 hr week and be successful, i don`t believe that to be the case anymore. I am sure you love doing it. What person wouldnt love working 6.5-7 days a week, 16 hours a day. Sorry, but I think you are blowing smoke. Of course you wouldnt want someone coming on here and seeing that you hate working that much. Gotta keep up that "happy-go-lucky" image. If agents need to put 60-80 hours a week in to be successful, they really arent successful. I dont think you can gauge success on income alone. Maybe agents putting that much time in need to find something they can put 40 hours a week in and be successful.
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#144204 - 05/30/07 06:39 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: super realtor]
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I must be missing something here,I figure some go for your 4.5 percent plan but I haven't even included what your cost would be for advertising,homes that didn't sell,and I beleive you use a team concept so that means the income is even less as you have to share right??
I am just seeing alot of work for a little pay.
$695 transaction fee Now I understand why he works sooo much.
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#144206 - 05/30/07 06:43 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: realestatefla1]
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I know race isnt the issue, I was asking what would be next...as in the next thing to disclose. Both being equally as useless. If someone wanted to see my listing Tuesday morning I would say "What time, I'll be there", since i work third shift. Merkaba Race isn`t the issue. Once upon a time Real Estate could be considered a part time job, but I do believe the market has changed all that. Again, I admire you for working full time and doing this on the side. In all seriousness, if a person wants to view a listing of yours on a Tuesday morning after seeing your sign, what do you do? This business is based on emotion. The majority of people aren`t kind enough to wait for you. This is about them!
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Keller Williams Realty Upstate South Carolina
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#144210 - 05/30/07 07:02 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: Secret_Agent]
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Where is realestatefl1's answer to what he does every day for 16.5 hours?
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#144211 - 05/30/07 07:05 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: changeagent]
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Where is realestatefl1's answer to what he does every day for 16.5 hours? I dunno. Maybe he will announce it when he gets his story straight. I just think he is a fluffer.
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#144217 - 05/30/07 07:47 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: changeagent]
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Where is realestatefl1's answer to what he does every day for 16.5 hours? He is currently working those 16.5 hours so he is unable to answer us. In the mean time those of us that are either pt or who just plain work efficient are here.
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#144253 - 05/30/07 09:54 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: realestatefla1]
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Merkaba Race isn`t the issue. Once upon a time Real Estate could be considered a part time job, but I do believe the market has changed all that. Again, I admire you for working full time and doing this on the side. In all seriousness, if a person wants to view a listing of yours on a Tuesday morning after seeing your sign, what do you do? This business is based on emotion. The majority of people aren`t kind enough to wait for you. This is about them! One of our top agents works 15 hours a week, I kid you not. She does accounting for her husbands business the rest of the time. Because of his business, which employs 40 people, she has a constant stream of leads.
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#144335 - 05/31/07 06:52 AM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: changeagent]
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My day starts at 6:00AM each day. I begin my day by answering emails, making sure that our web sites are updated, send out leads to our agents, we also belong to several RE web sites besides agentsonline.net.It`s a wonderful networking tool! By 9:00AM I`m in the office, we arrange showings, go to listing,deal with buyers,closings etec. By 7:30PM I usually go home, where I once again go back to answering telephone calls, emails etc. By 9:00PM I call it a day.
Someone mentioned that it`s not worth it! It`s not if you don`t understand that "Business Never Sleeps". Clients call at all hours of the day and night, I like to make sure they`re attended too! It`s my opinion if i don`t do it the competition will and have!
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#144336 - 05/31/07 06:57 AM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: realestatefla1]
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I agree with you, Scott. When I sold real estate full-time, I worked all my waking hours, pretty much. And utterly enjoyed it. Did I go to the grocery store? Yes. Do my work-out? Yes. Take naps? Absolutely! But if a client called, I answered the phone. I pulled all-nighters once or twice a week to catch up on my paperwork.
Most of my clients were also friends and most of my friends were either past, present or future clients. I mixed business & pleasure quite effectively.
Being "on call" is the reality of a successful real estate agent, especially in the first few years. And besides, when you love your job, you LOVE hearing the phone ring!!
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#144338 - 05/31/07 06:59 AM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: Jennifer Allan]
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However, I will say that in my last four years, with my systems in place, I only worked about 30 hours a week. Also, because my business was 100% SOI, I didn't have to do any prospecting.
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#144369 - 05/31/07 10:17 AM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: realestatefla1]
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#144382 - 05/31/07 11:48 AM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: super realtor]
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Super, I agree with you, the fact is our industry has changed and indeed that`s not to say makes a good or bad realtor, what`s changed though is this is a techno oriented market, the clients want results and people are in a "Today" mode, not yesterday.
Again, in my opinion, the has changed from the days when a Realtor had a black notebook with the "listings of the week". It wasn`t an issue being a part time agent then, in fact the majority of Realtors were back than. I maybe incorrect with my assumption,but many P/T agents have left for the very reason we`re discusiing, the business has changed it`s more difficult than ever to have a transaction close, it`s not about hours, it`s about the time consumption involved. peace.
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#144394 - 05/31/07 12:42 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: Playacar]
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When you love doing it, it does not matter how long it takes you during the day to perform this job. I love selling real estate Exactly..... Looking at the clock now, it's already 12:25pm. It just felt like 8:15am. Time flies when things are going well for you.
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#144424 - 05/31/07 01:46 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: realestatefla1]
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To sum up what you just said is you have no life! You really need to get one! That business never stops philosophy you are using is a crutch and a justification for working from 6am to 9pm daily. It is not worth it to work those hours. Sounds more like a time management issue. Every sucessful agent or business owner that I know all believe the same thing and that is you have to schedule "me or family" time. That time goes into your calander and is treated just like any other appointment. If a client calls and says I want to see that house at 7pm and you have a family function you say I already have an appointment(the client does not need to know it is dinner with the family) at that time what other times do you have open and I will check my calendar. If you are really that busy then it is long overdue that you hire an assistant. Looking at your activities in your 6am-9pm day which of these could be performed by either a licensed assistant or non-licensed assistant? If you say none then you are just a control freak who cannot delegate. JMHO My day starts at 6:00AM each day. I begin my day by answering emails, making sure that our web sites are updated, send out leads to our agents, we also belong to several RE web sites besides agentsonline.net.It`s a wonderful networking tool! By 9:00AM I`m in the office, we arrange showings, go to listing,deal with buyers,closings etec. By 7:30PM I usually go home, where I once again go back to answering telephone calls, emails etc. By 9:00PM I call it a day.
Someone mentioned that it`s not worth it! It`s not if you don`t understand that "Business Never Sleeps". Clients call at all hours of the day and night, I like to make sure they`re attended too! It`s my opinion if i don`t do it the competition will and have!
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#144431 - 05/31/07 01:57 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: fatmaxxv]
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Back to the topic of the thread... part-timers and disclosure. I am coming to the 1 year mark as an agent, and I am busier now than ever, thankfully, with 5 closings scheduled in the next 30 days. I have had 6 total up to now. I worked a part time job until just recently as well. I put as many hours in as I needed to in my business, answered my cell while at my "job", and was able to maintain a steady income between closings. Anyone else could and may do the same! None of my clients suffered due to hours worked elsewhere. I would have been really peeved had I been asked to disclose that anywhere! I now work as many hours as I need to: nights, weekends, whenever I need to. I agree with part-effort agents being a nuisance, but not "part-timers". This has become my passion. My family expects at least 3 very late nights every week, and they may or may not get a full weekend with me while we are in town, but they see how much happier I am and that makes it worth while for all of us.
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#144446 - 05/31/07 02:43 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: Perky_REALTOR]
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I am selling a piece of land with a part time broker right now. He is a friend of mine. It has been a bad experience. I wait for days to get answers. I have been in the real estate business of 15 years and I should have known better. I won't do it ever again.
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#144457 - 05/31/07 03:01 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: super realtor]
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I think because there is status associated with being a workaholic (and rewards) it is not seen as problem behavior. If it is satisfying all of your needs (emotional, intellectual, etc.) that is putting too many eggs in one basket.
I think it has to do with your values.
When you're on your death bed are you going to say, "I am so glad I put that extra eight hours a day into real estate?"
I wonder how your wife and family feel about it.
If your only value is monetary, that is sad too, but common in American culture.
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#144478 - 05/31/07 05:15 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: CB Realtor]
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I agree with realestatefla1, I think the part - timers are hurting the Real Agents who want to sale. I just don't see how you can be successful in Real Estate when your only working part-time & how fair is it to your employer when your answering your personal phone to do other work. I know the market is tough now but with a little more work and differant approaches you can make it work without having to take another job to supplement your income.. If you would have read more than just one post, you would see that many people have other jobs at night, during the day where they make their own schedules and it wont interfere with any real estate stuff. I find there can tend to be problems with the full-time agents.So, which are worse than part-time agents. I dont think the issue is full-time or part-time. I believe the issue to be with handling tasks or multitasking. There are plenty of full-time agents that might as well be part-time since they dont return calls, lousy in many respects, and are not up to date with modern practices and systems. How bout them apples?
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#144503 - 05/31/07 06:26 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: CB Realtor]
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JoeyBagadonuts - your right, I do agree with you that there are some "full time agents" who should really consider another profession as customer service is not for them, and in this buisness, to be sucessful, you really have to be on top of it. So with that said, let me clarify, although I still believe you can't fully be helping your clients when you are only doing Real Estate part time & for those "full time agents" who really are not you should retire or pursue other interest.... Why can't you be doing a great job for clients when you are part time? Part-time is not the problem. Here is the thing, even though alot of people, even on here, say they are full-time agents, when it comes down to it, I bet a bunch dont spend 8+ hours a day on real estate. Personally, I spend very little time on real estate, therefore I am part-time. If and when I get to a point where I need to soend 4,5,6 hours a day on real estate, I will still be part-time. But in no way does the amount (full or part-time) affect my ability to serve my clients. Not one bit. I can do just as good or BETTER than any so called "full-timer". Maybe one day I will be a full time agent. But I will have to do some serious lead prospecting and get lots of deals in the pipeline before consider devoting 8+ hours a day to real estate. Even then I will be doing something else. Even if I did great at RE and didnt need another job, I could see myself starting a completely different business because I am an entrepeneur, I like trying new things. I like pushing the envelope. I like to do what I like to do. I would love to do RE as career, but I could see myself opening some sort of restaurant, coffee or dessert shop. All work and no play makes Joe a dull boy. I hear lots of people say they eat, breathe, and sleep real estate....I bet these people are pretty dull or they are full of crap.
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#144504 - 05/31/07 06:30 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: serendipitysales]
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I am not bent out of shape and am very happy with who I am, but this PT vs FT thing is so completely ridiculous. Do you have any idea how ignorant you sound when you say things like "I think the part - timers are hurting the Real Agents who want to sale." (sell) The Real Agents? Please. I think some are ticked because there are so many "part-time" agents. If all these so called "part-time" agents were eliminated, they would have alot less competition. I think that is the real root of things.
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#144509 - 05/31/07 06:45 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: JoeyBagadonuts]
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#144518 - 05/31/07 07:00 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: JoeyBagadonuts]
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Maybe the name of thread should be changed...
"I am a full-time agent who doesn't make enough money for all the time I put in, so I need to hate on part-time agents who have an alternate stream of income." Joseph, if your last post was intended for me, then I need to clarify, there are some agents who hang there license with a broker and only sell to their family members or friends, they don't attend meetings, they don't stay up to date on the market or new laws, they don't belong to any board, they don't do enough business to keep it straight and they end up hurting their clients (out of sight out of mind). If you are doing this part time and care enough about what you do to Educate yourself so that your up to date on laws etc, and working another job works for you, then I applaud you as I know I could not do both....
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#144521 - 05/31/07 07:16 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: CB Realtor]
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Maybe the name of thread should be changed...
"I am a full-time agent who doesn't make enough money for all the time I put in, so I need to hate on part-time agents who have an alternate stream of income." Joseph, if your last post was intended for me, then I need to clarify, there are some agents who hang there license with a broker and only sell to their family members or friends, they don't attend meetings, they don't stay up to date on the market or new laws, they don't belong to any board, they don't do enough business to keep it straight and they end up hurting their clients (out of sight out of mind). If you are doing this part time and care enough about what you do to Educate yourself so that your up to date on laws etc, and working another job works for you, then I applaud you as I know I could not do both.... It was not aimed directly at you. My other job I guess is not a full-time job either, and there is no one looking over my shoulder, and I make my own schedule. I have deadlines I do need to meet, it is flexible, and I need to provide service. So, in a sense, I am fortunate to be able to practice real estate also. I try to keep up on what is going on in my local market and law changes. I am sure I dont know everything, but I try to learn as I go as with anyone who starts a career in real estate. Who know, maybe I will be the one that only sells to family and friends and doesnt attend meetings. Right now I dont attend the general office meeting, but i do attend classes as I see fit. I dont want to be an agent only doing 2 transactions a year. Hopefully things will increase as I go. If it looks like I will only do a coulple transactions each year, I will leave real estate and find something more profitable for ME. Maybe dib and dab at some investments if possible. Best I can do is put my best foot forward and try, if it doesnt work, I will leave. The only failure would be if I had not tried swinging this bat at all.
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#144527 - 05/31/07 07:25 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: JoeyBagadonuts]
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Full-time, part-time who cares. I just hate the agents that feel the need to stand around the front desk while I am on and talk like they are across the building from each other while I am taking a call.
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#144528 - 05/31/07 07:27 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: Kep]
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#144532 - 05/31/07 07:36 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: serendipitysales]
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yup. so there is this Spelling Bee on TV. lol these kids concentrating so hard trying to figure out what the word is. They look like they are constipated. As the commentator said, "15 children on the stage, and their parents on the other side of the stage to comfort them." wtf...lol. to comfort them. are you kidding me!
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#144561 - 05/31/07 09:05 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: JoeyBagadonuts]
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Maybe the name of thread should be changed...
"I am a full-time agent who doesn't make enough money for all the time I put in, so I need to hate on part-time agents who have an alternate stream of income." LOL! Sounds like it, doesn't it? If anyone reads the Craig's List housing forum, it's full of non r.e. agents who just HATE real estate agents because they make "so much money" and don't work hard. It's the other side of the "i don't like part timers because they skim off listings" coin.
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#144562 - 05/31/07 09:09 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: CB Realtor]
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Registered: 05/31/07
Posts: 23
Loc: Hayward WI
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Maybe it is more a matter proficiency than PT or FT. When I owned a small airplane, my flight instructor said that the most dangerous pilots are the ones that only fly once or twice a month. I think it is the same in RE. If an agent is only doing one or two deals a year, are they really staying proficient? Maybe we should have a minimum performance standard. Respectfully, LakeBroker
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#144574 - 05/31/07 10:01 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: CB Realtor]
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Registered: 02/06/06
Posts: 382
Loc: Albuquerque NM
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My mistake when posting was to not word it as well as secret agent as that is really what it comes down to... You have your Full Effort Agents and your Partial Effort agents...
Yes, Secret Agent has a way with words and put all our thoughts in type much better then we did. This is why I like her so much. I wish I had checked back in sooner. I love all the nice comments!
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#144587 - 06/01/07 12:10 AM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Shoul
[Re: LakeBroker]
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Maybe it is more a matter proficiency than PT or FT. When I owned a small airplane, my flight instructor said that the most dangerous pilots are the ones that only fly once or twice a month. I think it is the same in RE. If an agent is only doing one or two deals a year, are they really staying proficient? Maybe we should have a minimum performance standard. Respectfully, LakeBroker It will never happen.
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#147747 - 06/13/07 10:51 AM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
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Registered: 06/03/07
Posts: 31
Loc: utah
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16 hours day? yea right! I think a career in real estate is jus t a part time job, mainly you just have to stay home and pray for a call, and tried to advertise like crazy, and beg everyone to sell their home ect.........i'd work about 3-4 hrs a week and barely come to the office.
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#147775 - 06/13/07 01:44 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: alexdoan123]
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Registered: 11/23/06
Posts: 222
Loc: Gonzales, LA
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16 hours day? yea right! I think a career in real estate is jus t a part time job, mainly you just have to stay home and pray for a call, and tried to advertise like crazy, and beg everyone to sell their home ect.........i'd work about 3-4 hrs a week and barely come to the office. Ha.. is this meant to be sarcastic? I'm a new agent and I pray for my phone to STOP ringing for five minutes so I can get things done.
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#147804 - 06/13/07 03:26 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: shaunLA]
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OMG I need another me and another 12 hours for the next three days to get caught up in all I'm trying to get done. And then I'll hire a maid to do the housework!! I think a career in real estate is jus t a part time job, mainly you just have to stay home and pray for a call, and tried to advertise like crazy, and beg everyone to sell their home ect.........i'd work about 3-4 hrs a week and barely come to the office. Sounds like the voice of experience!
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#147824 - 06/13/07 04:35 PM
Re: Are you a Fulltime or Part Time Realtor? Should we
[Re: shaunLA]
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Registered: 04/12/07
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Loc: Princeton, NJ
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[quote=alexdoan123]16 hours day? yea right! I Ha.. is this meant to be sarcastic?
I'm a new agent and I pray for my phone to STOP ringing for five minutes so I can get things done. I agree!! I'm also fairly new, but I have several listings and sales right now. I'm starting to hate hearing my cell phone ringing, it usually means another problem to solve or another hoop to jump through ...just kidding (sort of), keep that ringing!!
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