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#141018 - 05/15/07 10:28 PM Re: 60 minutes-- i know you saw it [Re: drm7]
Paceryder Offline
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Registered: 05/14/05
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 Originally Posted By: drm7

I am not trying to instigate anything. I just wanted to share an outsiders view of the industry. Again, I hope to be an agent by this fall.


I hope you'll get back to us once you've worked as an agent for a year and let us know if you still feel the same way.

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#141019 - 05/15/07 10:34 PM Re: 60 minutes-- i know you saw it [Re: drm7]
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 Originally Posted By: drm7
Paul: I'll grant you that maybe the inspector was bad. In the end no one consulted me on how to interpret the report. Remember, my sale was 7 months after my purchase. I went back and reread my report and the hvac unit was not putting out the temp differential it was supposed to according to my report when I bought and the report when I sold. Someone should have informed me of all this and what to ask for and what not too. It was my first home and I had no idea how to read and interpret the reports. Point is, no one helped me. The average consumer will blame the agent as I did. How do they earn their commission if they didn't do anything but write the contract? I got no consulting on any part of the deal. I never said it was the agents decision but that they should consult me and let me know what everything means and what actions I could take.

changeagent: Realtors are supposed to be the experts that is what the commission is for. Why blame me? I signed an EBA expecting that I would get the fiduciary responsibility I was prepared to pay for. I'm a very informed person but I can't know everything. That is why I hired an expert. My experience is very typical these days. All of my friends feel the same way. I have a BS and MS in Accounting and Information Systems, I'm not dumb. I hired a rep for my deal. I got zilch for representation. The guy didn't even know what I should ask for and he sold over $8 million per year. This was back in 1999 before the market doubled in the Fairfax, VA area. He wasn't

Again, blaming me when I hired an EBA is ridiculous. I did my due diligence, even got referrals on the agent. In the end blaming the consumer is exactly why the man on the street has low opinion of Realtors. There is a disconnect between what Realtors think average consumers know and what consumers think Realtors are for. In the end it is the job of the Realtor to educate the consumer.

Since this sale I've finished out over 2500 sq ft with my own hands. I do my own plumbing, wiring, HVAC, tile, wood floor, framing, trim, insulation, decks, etc. I am a much smarter consumer now but many are not.

We, and I say we because I plan to be one, must understand the average consumer's frustrations or we will not succeed. I want to make 6% so don't think I'm bashing it. My plans are to do my own brokerage down the road so 6% sounds good to me. \:\)



Sorry I seem to be picking on you, DRM, but the expert you hired was the ENGINEER. And if you think all the agent did was fill in the contract...again, get back to us after you've been an active agent for a year. \:\)

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#141022 - 05/15/07 10:38 PM Re: 60 minutes-- i know you saw it [Re: drm7]
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 Originally Posted By: drm7
I plan to work hard, learn, and then apply that to my trade. I believe that the job of the Realtor is to educate the buyers/sellers in every phase of the transaction. Explain the forms, reports, etc.


And you'd like to be paid enough to survive, too, wouldn't you?


Edited by Paceryder (05/15/07 10:38 PM)

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#141024 - 05/15/07 10:43 PM Re: 60 minutes-- i know you saw it [Re: Paceryder]
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NOZZ: 60 Minutes called me, they want to know why you can't figure out the diff between an agent-sold home and a fsbo one and why even though the prices aren't the same, the sellers net the same amount of money in the end.

I told them you figured it out and you do understand it. It's your pride that's got you all twisted in knots trying to defend a misunderstanding you had. Happens all the time. I used to bartend and know alot about people like you and stuff, you see.

Anyways. We'll leave it at this. I don't care about your insults or need an apology, they say more about your character than mine.
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#141033 - 05/15/07 11:30 PM Re: 60 minutes-- i know you saw it [Re: SiberianWinter]
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Registered: 06/25/05
Posts: 452
Loc: Wantagh, NY
As I was reading, all of this one thought popped into my head about something that happened to me. For years I cut my own hair because it was long, and in general just needed to be trimmed. But when it came time for it to look better than just alright because I went into real estate and I needed a more professional look.
Initially I went to a discount hairdresser and came home crying. After it grew out(I actually wore clip on pony tails for a few months while it grew out) I went to a better salon. The hairdresser this time did a wonderful job and I will stay with this salon as long as possible. And in many cases this is true in real estate. So in the beginning I was like a FSBO, then we went with a deep discounter, and then found the right person to do the job.

We just dealt with a former FSBO after they realized it was not as easy as it looked but first went to a "friend in RE who discounted", and then became unhappy after it did not even get one look. They withdrew the listing from the friend, came to us and we sold it quickly .

But you know in this market these people who think they can do it themselves will find out the hard way because it is no longer a seller's market.
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#141481 - 05/18/07 12:16 AM Re: 60 minutes-- i know you saw it [Re: BettyBlue]
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Registered: 01/27/07
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 Originally Posted By: BettyBlue
estatereal I thought you do rebate your services now to go and get ALL that you can? I may be confused.


where did i say that? in md we are allowed to rebate commission, however i have never condoned it nor have i mentioned that i would do it.

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#141482 - 05/18/07 12:21 AM Re: 60 minutes-- i know you saw it [Re: estatereal]
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I work at Keller Williams. Right now I pay about 80 a month with no office or cube. I get a 70/30 split until I do 2.1 mil for the calendar year, then everything after that I get 100.
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#141575 - 05/18/07 03:23 PM Re: 60 minutes-- i know you saw it [Re: RealtorBarbaraT]
ReallyReal Offline
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Registered: 02/01/07
Posts: 221
 Originally Posted By: RealtorBarbaraT
As I was reading, all of this one thought popped into my head about something that happened to me. For years I cut my own hair because it was long, and in general just needed to be trimmed. But when it came time for it to look better than just alright because I went into real estate and I needed a more professional look.
Initially I went to a discount hairdresser and came home crying. After it grew out(I actually wore clip on pony tails for a few months while it grew out) I went to a better salon. The hairdresser this time did a wonderful job and I will stay with this salon as long as possible. And in many cases this is true in real estate. So in the beginning I was like a FSBO, then we went with a deep discounter, and then found the right person to do the job.

We just dealt with a former FSBO after they realized it was not as easy as it looked but first went to a "friend in RE who discounted", and then became unhappy after it did not even get one look. They withdrew the listing from the friend, came to us and we sold it quickly .

But you know in this market these people who think they can do it themselves will find out the hard way because it is no longer a seller's market.


Let me make a different point using your same hairstylist analogy.

The guy who has been cutting my hair for the last 20 years is what I call 'operating in his gift'. This guy is so good, I was out of town 1000 miles away, someone saw my haircut, knew what town I was from and said, 'Did Fred cut your hair?'

He was this great straight out of beauty school.

Anyway, right out of school he worked at a discount hair salon. If you had gotten your hair cut by him at the discount salon, you would have come away thinking, 'Wow these discount places have great haircuts!' when really it is just him. He loves cutting hair, is gifted at it and takes extra classes.

Now he has his own salon and charges top dollar for the same fantastic cuts that he would do if you snatched him out and put him in SuperClips.

MY POINT? It is the agent, not the type of agency they sign up with.

We all know REALTORS who are awful. Who get in thinking like FSBOs, 'This will be a piece of cake.' When the first deal goes off the path, they are at a loss, and they don't even know where to begin to try to keep the deal on track.

There are some discount agents who are gold!!

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