#134948 - 04/15/07 12:55 AM
Re: Zillow's posting property feature:
[Re: realting]
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I don't know why you can't understand how an agent is a subagent for two sellers. Here on Long Island we have been the subagent for ALL the sellers as we just got buyers agency. You'll never understand what it is that you don't understand. I'm glad buyers agency is coming to your hometown. Maybe soon you'll learn that sub agency is not the default agency in other areas. Many parts of the country got rid of this almost 20 years ago. Welcome to year 2007.
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#135003 - 04/15/07 01:51 PM
Re: Zillow's posting property feature:
[Re: realting]
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I don't know why you can't understand how an agent is a subagent for two sellers. Here on Long Island we have been the subagent for ALL the sellers as we just got buyers agency. You'll never understand what it is that you don't understand. I'm glad buyers agency is coming to your hometown. Maybe soon you'll learn that sub agency is not the default agency in other areas. Many parts of the country got rid of this almost 20 years ago. Welcome to year 2007. Thank you. Now we can try to convince jaded New Yorkers/Long Islanders to sign an EBA with us.
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#135015 - 04/15/07 03:34 PM
Re: Zillow's posting property feature:
[Re: Paceryder]
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Yes! With wings. (but that was before your time) I see what your problem is. Your world has horses on wings. I'm talking about the real world horses and real air planes. Granted, airplanes have their pros and cons but certainly future improvement to services through better training will improve. Slowly but surely the flying experience will improve. Meanwhile you can wait for your horses on wings to come back. Cool Cat, the only people really going to zillow are realtors. The majority of the traffic to that site is realtors. When you look at the number of realtors in the US it's not at all a suprise that Zillow is getting millions of hits a month. I don't think Zillow will go anywhere but down. But it's one thing to recognize what they are doing and taking advantage of the opportunities, it is another to be in complete denial of what's going on in this industry. Somebody mentioned early that Zillow will become victims of the same thing that has caused fsbo sites to fail. Soon there will be too many places like fsbo for the content on zillow to be of any value. For any product or service online to be of value there needs to be organization, Zillow won't have that. As we see already, my-currency.com and yourstreet.com are already on board. Epraisal.com and cyberhomes.com are also eyeing the same market as zillow. Instead of doing something to beat Zillow why not use Zillow in your favor? I'm not banking on Zillow but I'm going to take advantage of them while I can. I like Zillow features and technology. Soon every top producer will be offering the same stuff on thier site. Anybody that has ever tried to organize the internet ( google and yahoo excluded ) will fail. The internet is not a place to establish a standard and thats Zillow will fail. My advice. Spend money promoting yourself. Forget about all the latest internet junk. But do take advantage of them. Why would you want to spend millions of dollars on a project like zillow that will eventually fail when you can take advantage of them right now. A lot of people here fail to see that Zillow is not a threat to the industry at all. They should be view as nothing more than a pilot program. Zillow is to the industry as a steering wheel is to your car. What is missing is you. No need to invent a new steering wheel.
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#135022 - 04/15/07 04:35 PM
Re: Zillow's posting property feature:
[Re: Paul Oaks]
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Paul, you're very good at stating the obvious, but missing the point. Zillow has a link that says "Tell Us Its For Sale" and then asks for a price, and whether you are the owner, listing agent or someone else. I'm not sure how you can say that by doing this I posted a "comment" on the property. Further, you never responded to my post with the quote from the COE. I did not post a comment on this property, I posted an electronic "for sale" sign when I am not the listing agent. Troy, Maybe you better and this time take a look at the page yourself. To the right it showed your picture and mini profile and it said in that box what I stated in the previous post. It said to either contact you for more details or if this is your listing and want to take the thread over to click here. Troy, One is to post your Listings and the other is to comment, post or blog on a property you know to be for sale that is not your listing. Paul, I did not post a comment on the property, I told Zillow that the property was FOR SALE, and listed a price. You are talking about a TOTALLY different part of Zillow than what I was trying to demonstrate. I have removed the "this house is for sale" option from the listing, but if you looked at it while I had it up there, you would know what I was talking about. Should I post it again so you can see it?
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#135024 - 04/15/07 05:18 PM
Re: Zillow's posting property feature:
[Re: Troy Richardson]
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“Slowly but surely the flying experience will improve.” Ahhh, youthful eternal optimism. Here is another site that will value a property in competition to Zillow. http://www.realestateabc.com/
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#135029 - 04/15/07 05:48 PM
Re: Zillow's posting property feature:
[Re: pikes peak]
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“Slowly but surely the flying experience will improve.” Ahhh, youthful eternal optimism. Here is another site that will value a property in competition to Zillow. http://www.realestateabc.com/ I live on Long Island and apparently they didn't have anything in my town or township.
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#135036 - 04/15/07 06:46 PM
Re: Zillow's posting property feature:
[Re: Paceryder]
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Perhaps this comes down to the conflict of interest between the agents best interests and the seller's best interests.
The listing agent has a fiduciary obligation to try and sell the home they are listing. If allowing other agents to talk about the listing and create "buzz" at the risk of their hijacking some potential buyers - (customers for their property as well as other properties) then how has this hurt the seller? Has it helped the helped the seller sell his property - probably. Has it siphoned off potential customers from the listing agents - possibly. What are the chances that the seller would feel betrayed if a listing agent restricted the use of the listing in a way that eliminated a potentially free source of publicity? Quite probable.
As long as the "buzz" created about the listing isn't negative, it is in the seller's best interest that they allow other agents to discuss the property. It's not unlike IDX links to the MLS where a brokerage is just as likely to get a call about another brokerage's listings as their own because a buyer found it on thier site.
Nevertheless, as an agent, I would feel uncomfortable about commenting on a listing if I hadn't consulted the listing agent.
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#135087 - 04/15/07 11:52 PM
Re: Zillow's posting property feature:
[Re: Troy Richardson]
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Troy, First so there is no confusion I will post the definition for comment. com·ment(kmnt) n. 1. a. A written note intended as an explanation, illustration, or criticism of a passage in a book or other writing; an annotation. b. A series of annotations or explanations. 2. a. A statement of fact or opinion, especially a remark that expresses a personal reaction or attitude. b. An implied conclusion or judgment: a novel that is a comment on contemporary lawlessness. 3. Talk; gossip: a divorce that caused much comment. 4. Computer Science A string of text in a program that does not function in the program itself but is used by the programmer to explain instructions. 5. Linguistics The part of a sentence that provides new information about the topic. Also called rheme. v. com·ment·ed, com·ment·ing, com·ments v.intr. 1. To make a comment; remark. 2. To serve as a judgmental commentary: "Her demise comments on [the Upper East Side's] entire way of life" Mark Muro. v.tr. To make comments on; annotate. Now looking at (2a) everyone can see that a comment is a statement of fact or opinion. Stating a properties address and its for sale price qualifies as a comment since it is a statement of fact or opinion so I beleive we can put the comment question at its end. Paul, you're very good at stating the obvious, but missing the point. Zillow has a link that says "Tell Us Its For Sale" and then asks for a price, and whether you are the owner, listing agent or someone else. I'm not sure how you can say that by doing this I posted a "comment" on the property. Further, you never responded to my post with the quote from the COE. I did not post a comment on this property, I posted an electronic "for sale" sign when I am not the listing agent. Troy, Maybe you better and this time take a look at the page yourself. To the right it showed your picture and mini profile and it said in that box what I stated in the previous post. It said to either contact you for more details or if this is your listing and want to take the thread over to click here. Troy, One is to post your Listings and the other is to comment, post or blog on a property you know to be for sale that is not your listing. Paul, I did not post a comment on the property, I told Zillow that the property was FOR SALE, and listed a price. You are talking about a TOTALLY different part of Zillow than what I was trying to demonstrate. I have removed the "this house is for sale" option from the listing, but if you looked at it while I had it up there, you would know what I was talking about. Should I post it again so you can see it?
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#135118 - 04/16/07 07:38 AM
Re: Zillow's posting property feature:
[Re: Artiste]
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Blog is a web log. For you internet illiterates it's like a catalog of what's on the web. Very similar to the search engine as weblogs can be setup to be searchable. It's very similar to this discussion forum actually. It's searchable.
If you people are afraid that weblogs will ruin your business stay at home and don't use the web. Things are going to get rough on the internet because weblogs are just beginning.
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