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#13086 - 08/04/06 03:01 AM Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
mishla2 Offline
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Registered: 08/04/06
Posts: 8
Loc: new jersey
Ok, I watched the entire Exit realty pitch video. The guy who made Exit talks like a used car salesman. Everything sounded like a scam. He said he had the greatest idea and kept it secret for 13 years. And the idea is to pay people for recruiting other people. What on earth is that? Is he high?

And then he went on to emphasize that what they are doing in not illegal. He goes 'if the broker pays you, that's illegal, if so and so pays you, tht's illegal' but the Exit corporation pays you! that's NOT illegal! What kind of commercial/sales pitch tells you 'WE ARE NOT ILLEGAL!' ????

But forget my impressions. I just want to find out what EXACTLY is this real estate reinvented formula?

In the informercial, the guy says you make 10% from each person you recruit so if you recruit 10 or more people, you add up each 10% so now it's > 100%?!?!? I am no math major but wouldn't that fail 3rd grade math? If I pay 7% sales tax on an apple, then I buy 10 more apples, I am now paying 77% sales tax?!?!?

What exactly is the exit formula? I can't find it listed exactly anywhere?!?!? How exactly does the corporation make money? How exactly does the broker make money? How exactly does an agent make money? Can someone give me a concrete algorithm on how people are making money? I don't want a sales pitch (7% residual for life!!. 7% or what? from whom?!!? how much does that really work out to in real life situation???)

Thanks for any help. I am just asking because there are billions and billions of exit realty's around here. I want to know either they are really onto something so fantastic or there is a scam going on?!!?


here is that video btw:
mms://video.lantrax.com/exit/UpClosePersonal18min.wmv]exit sales pitch
mms://video.lantrax.com/exit/UpClosePersonal18min.wmv

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#13087 - 08/04/06 04:29 AM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
GregInAtlanta Offline
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Registered: 04/14/05
Posts: 1171
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
I believe that Exit focuses on recruiting rather than selling real estate. Our objective in this business is not to recruit, but to sell. Think about this:

You sell 10 homes in a year. You recruit 5 people that sell 5 homes in a year (that's 25). Chances are that a good many of your recruits will be a friend/relative/cohort/etc., so they are in your SOI.

If 3 of those folks are your personal associates, and you are effective at constant communication with them, chances are you will get some of the deals brokered by them if they joined Exit under you.

Here's the math:

Let's assume that each closing yields $5000 gross commission. We will also assume that 3 of the 5 recruits are personal associates and 3 of the 5 deals from each personal associate could be referred to you (if they were not recruited into real estate). So, it is a solid potential of 9 deals from this group.


Exit plan: 25 closings x $500= $12500. Not bad.

Traditional plan (assuming you are with a 100% company): 9 referred deals x $5000= $45000. Much better.

Next, let's talk about focus. With the vast number of agents competing for a fixed number of listings, along with normalization of some markets around the country, wouldn't it make sense to focus on obtaining listings instead of further increasing competition by actively adding agents to the pool?

When approached by Exit agents trying to recruit me, I get a deer-in-the-headlights look when I ask this question.

You said something about there being "billions and billions" of Exits around there. Thats all well and good. How many of those "downlines" would be gone in 90 days if the market seriously tightens.

It seems to me that one joins Exit in hopes of sitting on their butt, doing nothing while letting their "recruits" bring them money. Unfortunately, if the recruits have the same attitude, the original agent is somewhat screwed.

Go look at other companies. It sounds like you are not sure about Exit. Go with your gut.
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#13088 - 08/04/06 07:16 AM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
FL Realtor Offline
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Registered: 11/13/04
Posts: 213
Loc: Florida
Amway.

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#13089 - 08/04/06 07:26 AM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
smg Offline
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Registered: 02/16/06
Posts: 2121
Loc: United States
Herbalife.

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#13090 - 08/04/06 09:19 AM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
Jflynn Offline
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Registered: 07/16/04
Posts: 2899
If you want to recruit then Exit pays better than the others including KW. If you want to sell then Exit is about average in their commission split but you can do a lot better.

The furmula is simple: you get 10% of your recruit's commission capped at $10,000.
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#13091 - 08/04/06 09:35 AM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
GregInAtlanta Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Jflynn:
The furmula is simple: you get 10% of your recruit's commission capped at $10,000.
I did not know this.
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#13092 - 08/04/06 10:12 AM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
northwestagent Offline
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Registered: 07/27/06
Posts: 31
Loc: Oregon
What is interesting about this Amway style of recruitment and residuals is how fragile it can be and be sold against! Being we are in an age where commissions are droping faster than the peace process in the middle east, it would seem that this recruitment tactic (residuals) would be less and less attractive. In addition it appears that this type of company KW and Exit would easily be sold against at the kitchen table.

"Dear, Mr. and Mrs. Seller, you know there are companies out there who need to charge you 6% because they have to pay royalties, the broker, the agents, the agents upline that agents upline and so on. Now Mr. and Mrs. Seller how about we just do 5% and I'll give you back that 4,500.00 in commissions that would have gone to KW upline for doing nothing what so ever to sell your house."

Slam dunk! Not only that it puts even more bad taste in peoples mouths than they have already for agents.
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#13093 - 08/04/06 10:23 AM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
Jflynn Offline
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Registered: 07/16/04
Posts: 2899
Slam dunk, eh? How many listings have you signed using that pitch? By the way KW agents don't need to charge 6%. I even took a listing for 1 dollar once.
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#13094 - 08/04/06 10:45 AM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
northwestagent Offline
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Registered: 07/27/06
Posts: 31
Loc: Oregon
It's just an illustration... relax.
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#13095 - 08/04/06 12:34 PM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
Jflynn Offline
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Registered: 07/16/04
Posts: 2899
You're the one using exclaimation points and who implied this puts a bad taste in peoples mouths.
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#13096 - 08/04/06 01:51 PM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
mishla2 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 08/04/06
Posts: 8
Loc: new jersey
Can someone look at this video and tell me if this really sound like he's trying to pitch a scam or is it just me?

mms://video.lantrax.com/exit/UpClosePersonal18min.wmv

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#13097 - 08/04/06 01:55 PM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
Gulf Winds Offline
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Registered: 02/04/06
Posts: 1715
Loc: USA
Link is not valid!
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#13098 - 08/04/06 01:58 PM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
mishla2 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 08/04/06
Posts: 8
Loc: new jersey
Ok so is there all it is? Does a realty have to pay Exit Realty Corp regular franchising fees?

When you sign up as an agent to this mom and pop realty office, do you have to pay a fee to them? Are there little bits and pieces where you get ripped off? That comprise the actual profit scamming from Exit? $10 admin cost here, $20 background check there, blah blah adding up to thousands of dollars each lil mom and pop that joins Exit corp.

And then they dont pay you back the 10% or whatever like they promised and they are now millions of dollars richer thanks to all the suckers? Or am I over fantasizing?

It just seems too conveninent that Exit realty is in another country, Canada, and trying to do all the work across the border.

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#13099 - 08/04/06 01:59 PM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
MDHomes2Go Offline
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Registered: 09/19/04
Posts: 696
Loc: Montgomery County, MD/DC Metro...
mishla2, it's not just you, I got the same slimey feeling.
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#13100 - 08/04/06 02:00 PM Re: Exit. What exactly is the formula? I can't find it anywhere.
mishla2 Offline
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Registered: 08/04/06
Posts: 8
Loc: new jersey
 Quote:
Originally posted by Gulf Winds:
Link is not valid!
It works. just cut and paste the entire thing into the url. make sure there is no 'http://'
just purely 'mms://'

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