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#147021 - 06/09/07 05:28 PM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killer [Re: Inspectorjeff]
pikes peak Offline
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Registered: 12/15/04
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Loc: CO
"1-The home Inspector will be liable for all mistakes made that effect the deal in a negatively monetary way
2- The inspector agrees to pay $50 per hour to the Seller, to clean any/all mess created by the Home Inspector.
3- The inspector MUST sign/authorize this form to be allowed on the premise to do the inspection.
Guess who authorized these terms???? The Seller and Buyer."

So, this is part of a contract a buyer and seller presents to a HI to sign prior to the inspection, and they expect the inspector to sign this???
How many HI's sign this?
Get real.

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#147025 - 06/09/07 06:15 PM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killer [Re: pikes peak]
Inspectorjeff Offline

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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 67
Loc: Santa Clarita, CA
 Originally Posted By: pikes peak
So, this is part of a contract a buyer and seller presents to a HI to sign prior to the inspection, and they expect the inspector to sign this???
How many HI's sign this?
Get real.


That's pretty much where I've been going with this. I seriously doubt that any inspector has ever signed such a document. I can guarantee you that my insurance company would not allow me to sign this, and my attorneys would certainly have a fit.

It appears that he (noseller) is done answering my questions (even though he really only answered one). I'd say "the writing's on the wall."
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Santa Clarita CA
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#147651 - 06/12/07 07:31 PM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killers? [Re: Helpstopforeclos]
Mephistopheles Offline
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Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 12
If I was a home inspector i'd walk away from them terms also, that would be a "red flag".
#1 things do happen to break down the next day
#2 it is common sense that if you make a mess, you clean it up
#3 written authorization is not needed if a home inspection is agreed upon by both parties per intent.
#4 many homeowners and some agents hide things, whether intentional or not.

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#148121 - 06/14/07 08:36 PM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killer [Re: pikes peak]
Kevin McMahon Offline
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Registered: 12/28/04
Posts: 73
Loc: Wisconsin
 Originally Posted By: pikes peak
"1-The home Inspector will be liable for all mistakes made that effect the deal in a negatively monetary way
2- The inspector agrees to pay $50 per hour to the Seller, to clean any/all mess created by the Home Inspector.
3- The inspector MUST sign/authorize this form to be allowed on the premise to do the inspection.
Guess who authorized these terms???? The Seller and Buyer."

So, this is part of a contract a buyer and seller presents to a HI to sign prior to the inspection, and they expect the inspector to sign this???
How many HI's sign this?
Get real.

Not in a 100 years would I sign that B.S.

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#148861 - 06/18/07 12:13 PM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killer [Re: MA BROKER]
Neil Toll Offline
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Registered: 02/07/06
Posts: 25
Loc: Tennessee
 Originally Posted By: 2004Ferne
I question what you think "near" future is. 10 years is not "near future" to me. In my area, MA, the home inspector states he can't quote prices.

A ten year old roof that was installed incorrectly will not last nearly as long. In fact, 10 years may be the life span that particular incorrectly installed roof. I do not know because I was not there. I have yet to meet anyone, let alone a home inspector that can accurately predict the future. I do not quote repair costs but we all know that a roof is a major expense. The buyers should be able to make their own determination if it is acceptable to them.
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#149941 - 06/23/07 12:09 PM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killer [Re: Mephistopheles]
jelias Offline
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Registered: 06/22/07
Posts: 9
Loc: New Jersey, USA
The home inspector will always find something wrong in the house. Whether it's something small and simple like a light socket needs to be change out, batteries in a smoke detector or something big like the roof is leaking, boiler is leaking. All of these things will open the door for re-negotiations and that is where the deal may go south. You have to look for your client’s best interest in these cases and work with the other agent to get the deal done. And if that means no deal, then it’s no deal. Put yourself in your client’s position, you would want someone to be straight with you, especially your agent.
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#150913 - 06/26/07 09:52 PM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killer [Re: jelias]
Perky_REALTOR Offline
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Registered: 11/27/06
Posts: 7685
Loc: PA
I will tell you why home inspectors get a bad rep.

When a home inspector hired & trusted by the buyer says the waste for the home is a "Cesspool" because he is too ignorant or lazy to look closer and realize that it is, indeed, a septic, just as the owner stated.

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#157282 - 07/21/07 11:09 AM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killer [Re: Inspectorjeff]
TanyaWI62 Offline
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Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 16
Loc: Central Wisconsin
 Originally Posted By: Inspectorjeff
CA is an unregulated, unlicensed state as well (with regard to Home Inspectors).


When you say "unregulated" and "unlicensed" do you mean you need no formal training or testing in order to be a home inspector?
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#157614 - 07/23/07 12:25 PM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killer [Re: TanyaWI62]
Inspectorjeff Offline

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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 67
Loc: Santa Clarita, CA
Unfortunately, that is correct. In CA, you can call yourself a Home Inspector, with no training or testing to back it up.

Here is the law as it pertains to CA Home Inspectors;

 Quote:
CALIFORNIA BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS CODE

7195 (d) A "home inspector" is any individual who performs a home
inspection.

7196. It is the duty of a home inspector who is not licensed as a general contractor, structural pest control operator, or architect, or registered as a professional engineer to conduct a home inspection with the degree of care that a reasonably prudent home inspector would exercise.

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Santa Clarita CA
(661) 212-0738
http://www.MyInspector.net

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#158090 - 07/25/07 01:06 PM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killer [Re: Mephistopheles]
phillyjazz Offline
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Registered: 07/18/07
Posts: 26
Loc: PA
The HI I had just hired did a very good job. He was honest about the number of things that typically go wrong in a 75-year old house, and if anything was conservative in the estimates required to repair what he found.

When something was beyond his area of expertise, he recommended we hire an expert contractor to more fully examine it.

We would have bought the home based on his report, but ended up rescinding because of more serious issues revealed by an expert roofer who was familiar with issues that could not be found in the course of a normal Home Inspection.

The Inspector did not "kill the deal" and I would gladly use him again.

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#168357 - 09/07/07 09:54 PM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killer [Re: phillyjazz]
Crash Offline
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Registered: 02/13/07
Posts: 362
Loc: psssst buddy-wanna buy a house
Have a HI here that is licensed by the state to do HI...He is also licensed HVAC tech and sales. Guess how often HVAC systems area bad, i mean systems....see below for snipit from last home inspection...

Notice the double speak
venting marginal but satisfactory...
duct work is sufficent then it is a cheap job...

"The venting of the furnace is marginal at best. This furnace’s location within the crawl space required an extensive run of horizontal double wall vent pipe within the crawl space. The vent does function satisfactorily at this time.

The ductwork is sufficient for this size furnace and air conditioner; however, there is no trunk line, only a supply distribution box off the furnace. This results in excessive runs of flexible round supply ducts to the rooms. Better air flow, more efficient and effective operations result with systems that have properly sized supply trunk lines and minimum length of round supply runs flex duct piping. Basically this was a “cheap job” installation. "

And then the estimate to replace both systems...
Nice....By the way the deal fell through, the second home inspection and HVAC indicated it was in typical condition for it age

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#168362 - 09/07/07 10:37 PM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killer [Re: Crash]
Inspectorjeff Offline

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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 67
Loc: Santa Clarita, CA
Any inspector offering to make repairs on a home that he/she has inspected is violating the ethics of every major HI Association in the country. Depending on where they're operating, they might also be violating state law.
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If your inspector is not using thermal imaging, you're not getting the whole picture. ™

Jeff Pope
JPI Home Inspection Service
Santa Clarita CA
(661) 212-0738
http://www.MyInspector.net

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#168541 - 09/09/07 02:23 PM Re: Why do Agents call Home Inspectors Deal Killer [Re: Inspectorjeff]
Mike Parks Offline
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Registered: 09/09/07
Posts: 6
Loc: Columbus Ohio
"I was a Home inspector once"

I bet that makes the disclosure fun.

How do you handle defects when you see them while 'listing' the home?


Edited by Mike Parks (09/09/07 02:24 PM)
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