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#124319 - 11/19/06 02:44 PM paying taxes on agents commission
Area Pro Realty Offline
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Registered: 05/24/06
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Loc: California
quick question.
Say you have an agent, and that agent brought in $100,000 in commission in 2006. You kept $10,000 of that commission. Do you owe taxes on the $100,000 or the $10,000?

On one hand, I dont see why a corporation would have to pay taxes on a commission check that 90% of their agents keep, on the other hand you would think a corporation would have to pay taxes on everything their company brings in.

Any thoughts on this?
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#124320 - 11/19/06 06:37 PM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
rwilson99 Offline
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Neither.

The $100,000 is a revenue

$90,000 to the agent is an expense.

You have other expenses too that might relate to the sale (i.e. variable expenses that you have for compliance, processing etc.)


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Originally posted by VM Group:
quick question.
Say you have an agent, and that agent brought in $100,000 in commission in 2006. You kept $10,000 of that commission. Do you owe taxes on the $100,000 or the $10,000?

On one hand, I dont see why a corporation would have to pay taxes on a commission check that 90% of their agents keep, on the other hand you would think a corporation would have to pay taxes on everything their company brings in.

Any thoughts on this?
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#124321 - 11/19/06 06:54 PM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
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Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
Businesses pay taxes on profit.

$100000 Revenue
($90000) Commission expense

$10000 Profit

If you had a business that had inventory, you would pay taxes on revenue minus cost of goods sold.

Of course this is a broad example. We are not considering other forms of revenues and expenditures, as well as the company's structure.
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#124322 - 11/20/06 09:18 AM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
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Registered: 06/23/04
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Loc: Central Illinois
Mike,
You need to find an accountant fast. Did you seek tax advice before choosing your corporate structure? If not you need to find an experienced Real Estate Account quickly before you make errors that could cost you alot of money!

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Originally posted by VM Group:
quick question.
Say you have an agent, and that agent brought in $100,000 in commission in 2006. You kept $10,000 of that commission. Do you owe taxes on the $100,000 or the $10,000?

On one hand, I dont see why a corporation would have to pay taxes on a commission check that 90% of their agents keep, on the other hand you would think a corporation would have to pay taxes on everything their company brings in.

Any thoughts on this?
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#124323 - 11/20/06 03:32 PM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
Area Pro Realty Offline
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Registered: 05/24/06
Posts: 284
Loc: California
thanks Paul, I have the best CPA in the state and he almost definately knows the answer to this question, just was thinking about it late at night and decided to post it
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#124324 - 11/24/06 06:02 PM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
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Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 197
Loc: 3rd Rock From The Sun
taxes are for chumps. I haven't paid them in about a decade.

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#124325 - 11/24/06 06:54 PM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
whitteg Offline
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Registered: 11/24/05
Posts: 61
Loc: Ohio
Graysqwrl.. be careful what your saying about not paying taxes

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#124326 - 11/25/06 08:27 AM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
graysqwrl Offline
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Maybe I should rephrase....The only taxes I pay are the ones I can't figure out how to evade.

better?

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#124327 - 11/26/06 03:29 AM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
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Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 1225
Loc: Morgan Hill, CA, USA
Ok... its official.... graysqwrl is officially on the "If you take his advice your failing one of lifes little intelligence tests" list.

There are intelligent and legal ways to substantially minimize your tax burden. Going any further puts you at the mercy of an IRS court where our legal system does a 180 and the burden of proof is on the accused to prove their innocence rather than on the IRS to prove your guilt.

Good luck with that.

R
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#124328 - 11/26/06 02:57 PM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
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Registered: 11/24/05
Posts: 61
Loc: Ohio
If you would answere the question than you would be okay. All the extra's about your personally taxes was not necessary.

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#124329 - 11/27/06 08:36 PM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
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 Quote:
Originally posted by whitteg:
If you would answere the question than you would be okay. All the extra's about your personally taxes was not necessary.
Not necessary, but funny!

Besides, people already told him what to do.

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#124330 - 12/02/06 06:14 PM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
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Registered: 01/17/06
Posts: 12
How is this an issue "Where agents get to keep 100% of their commission"?

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#124331 - 12/03/06 09:02 AM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
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correct me if I'm wrong, but even if you pay your agents directly from escrow, the IRS gods still view it as the brokerage's revenue. It's just taken immediately as the brokerage expense....assuming 1099'd agents

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#124332 - 12/03/06 09:04 AM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
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Loc: 3rd Rock From The Sun
VM's profit and therefore taxed portion would be the "per file fee" or however he makes his buck.

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#124333 - 12/03/06 01:14 PM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
Area Pro Realty Offline
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Registered: 05/24/06
Posts: 284
Loc: California
The IRS doesnt require me to 1099 commission checks that escrow cuts directly to the agent. I called on that. The problem is the rebate checks from the lender often require it to be made out to the company rather than the individual. So what I do is have the check made out to the company, have the agent deposit it in my bank account and I use my online business bill pay to get the checks to my agent as soon as possible
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#124334 - 12/04/06 04:49 AM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
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Posts: 1171
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
There is a solution:


www.fairtax.org

Call your Congressional Representatives and Senators and tell them to get on board!
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#124335 - 12/04/06 09:29 AM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
broker Offline
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Registered: 08/16/04
Posts: 1979
Loc: Cary, NC
"The problem is the rebate checks from the lender often require it to be made out to the company rather than the individual. So what I do is have the check made out to the company, have the agent deposit it in my bank account and I use my online business bill pay to get the checks to my agent as soon as possible"

I hope you mean commission checks and not rebate checks.... unless the $$ is going to the consumer.
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#124336 - 12/04/06 11:43 AM Re: paying taxes on agents commission
Area Pro Realty Offline
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Registered: 05/24/06
Posts: 284
Loc: California
yes, that is what i meant. The lenders refer to it as rebates, meaning rebate to the agent (ie. commission)
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