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#117659 - 03/19/06 07:27 AM
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Registered: 02/20/06
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Loc: Mesa, Arizona
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Anyone else using them for leads? Experience? Good/Bad.
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#117660 - 03/19/06 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by AZLender: Anyone else using them for leads? Experience? Good/Bad. I heard costs are too high and quality is not there. At least that is what clients tell me. I have never nor will ever by from them or Lendingtree.
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#117661 - 03/19/06 12:20 PM
Re: Lowermybills.com
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Registered: 02/20/06
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Loc: Mesa, Arizona
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LendingTree leads were great, we had a close ratio around 38%, which is phenomenal however the fees they charge are outrageous. Lendingtree just got sued for 5.8mm. http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2006/01/23/daily23.html Little does the consumer know, they would be much better off going through a broker not having to provide "kickbacks" as I call them, to Lendingtree.
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#117662 - 03/19/06 12:42 PM
Re: Lowermybills.com
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Registered: 02/20/06
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Loc: Mesa, Arizona
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I still don't understand how they get around Sect. 8 (RESPA). They are also a lender. They charge $XX.00 per lead then when the loan closes they charge anywhere from $250 to $1,100 depending on loan type & loan amount.
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#117663 - 03/19/06 01:43 PM
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I don't believe them to be an honest or ethincal company. Before I entered the industry I got a loan through them and was surprised at the unnesesary fees. I was never disclosed this and was faced with the choice of either taking the loan or not. I tell everyone I know of their dirty little secret.
Lending Tree = Bad Business
At least in my experiences and those of all I talk to.
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#117664 - 03/19/06 01:44 PM
Re: Lowermybills.com
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Originally posted by AZLender: I still don't understand how they get around Sect. 8 (RESPA). Maybe no complaints have been filed? Maybe they need to be?
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#117665 - 03/19/06 01:52 PM
Re: Lowermybills.com
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Originally posted by AZLender: LendingTree leads were great, we had a close ratio around 38%, which is phenomenal however the fees they charge are outrageous. Lendingtree just got sued for 5.8mm. http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2006/01/23/daily23.html Little does the consumer know, they would be much better off going through a broker not having to provide "kickbacks" as I call them, to Lendingtree. I told Yoda about your post, he was tickled. Yodas Post
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#117666 - 03/19/06 02:39 PM
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Loc: Mesa, Arizona
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I'm sure RESPA is very aware. I think it might boil down to split entities and loop holes. In my opinion it's a conflict of interest and should be pursued accordingly.
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#117667 - 03/27/06 03:45 PM
Re: Lowermybills.com
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Registered: 03/27/06
Posts: 42
Loc: Milwaukee
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I am a Lending Tree lender and I would not trade my lead source for anything else out there. We have had Lending Tree for one year and I have closed over 100 loans with them and another 25 or so referrals that came from doing people right on Lending Tree. I always see people knocking them but at the end of the day noone else has a better lead source. My guess on why so many brokers dont like them is that it is very tough as a mortgage broker to get approved to be on their network. My understandig is that they only approve banks and correspondent lenders. I am not sure about the RESPA violations but my guess is that they are a multi million dollar company and I am sure they have done their homework. Goodluck.
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#117668 - 03/27/06 03:58 PM
Re: Lowermybills.com
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Registered: 02/20/06
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Loc: Mesa, Arizona
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I agree they are a good lead source, however the fees they charge are rediculous. As mentioned above, little does the consumer know they are, in essence, getting ripped off. When I was set up with them, we charged all their fees off to the borrower. This was fully disclosed, however I didn't feel comfortable with it at all. It reached over my ethical boundary.
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#117669 - 03/28/06 10:42 AM
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Registered: 03/27/06
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Loc: Milwaukee
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We eat that cost versus giving it to the borrower. We have found that we can price loans out fairly and still make money even after paying Lending Tree.
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#117670 - 03/28/06 10:55 AM
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Loc: Mesa, Arizona
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Thats a lot to eat, depending on the LTV, loan amount and loan type.
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#117671 - 03/28/06 11:00 AM
Re: Lowermybills.com
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Registered: 03/27/06
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Loc: Milwaukee
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We are in a percentage business. They charge more for higher loan amounts but we make more on those anyways. 9 times out of 10 the borrower still gets a better deal than going to a broker so i do not see the harm in this site for someone looking for a good deal.
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#117672 - 03/28/06 11:04 AM
Re: Lowermybills.com
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Registered: 11/14/05
Posts: 164
Loc: Orange, CA
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If you get out of the office and meet people, you wont have to spend money on leads.
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#117673 - 03/28/06 11:09 AM
Re: Lowermybills.com
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Registered: 02/21/06
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9 times out of 10 the borrower still gets a better deal than going to a broker [/QB] Fallacy!
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