So it occurred to me that NAR is SUPOSSED to be all about ethics. Has NAR even once conducted an internal investigation to see if in fact that buyers agents show all available listings regardless of the commission being offered?

NOT LIKELY!! Obviously NAR has their little dark secrets that they don't want to expose within the REALTOR community!!

Really sad.

Oh goodness. Not another NAR battle. If you want them to do an internal audit, ask them. I'm tired of people complaining, but not doing anything.

I send emails and call organizations when I have a complaint. I don't just sit on my hind legs and complain in an internet forum. Get up and do something that matters for a change.

How about this... I'll help you brainstorm: Organize an email campaign and let us know what we can do to help.

The point I am making is that you have agents out there (and here obvioulsy by the posts) that CLEARLY violate the code of ethics (by stating agents won't show homes that are advertised with a sub standard commission).

It is obviously NOT in the best interest of the buyer to ONLY see the homes that benefit the agents bottom line. So the issues is not whether it happens it is why ISN'T NAR doing anything about it. NAR prides itself on a foundation of ethics but does absolutely nothing about obvious abuses by REALTORS!!!!!

It's pathetic! and if NAR actually did do something two things might happen 1. NAR would realize (and EXPOSE) their 1million agents have a lot of dirty little ethical secrets in there midst 2. Actually start something that would help eliminate the USED car salesman image of the REALTOR.

The TRUTH IS!!! NAR is more concerned with selling you 55.00 classes and 399.00 silly designations.

Rick,

Who do you work for? Are you a Realtor?

Rick you continuously make negative posts. I see you have a serious problem.
If a Realtor has a EBA with his client and the client chooses to not see discount homes because the client does not want to pay the extra fee that is 100% ethical and fine. The dirty secret is that discount agents do not tell thier clients that they will get less showings by not offering a competitive commission to other agents. I have seen a discount models in my area have the home expire after 6 months. If you only sell 5% a month of your listings that may be 60% a year. Traditional models sell 95% a year and at a much faster rate.
Rick eat more rabbit pills. Let us know when you get a license? If you where a agent and not just a disgruntled individual we might actually value your comments. Most here percieve you as a nut.

Greg, bad link.

I don't think so Rick, it's against the COE and agents like to get paid for their work.
However, if a seller does not offer sufficient compensation to a buyers agent and the buyer can't pay their agent, what do you think will happen? They move on to the next property where the agent can get paid.
FYI, NAR has no regulatory jurisdiction over agents, only the licensing agencies do.

Rick,
Lame as ever and wrong as usual! What we have come to expect of you.

It is not illegal or unethical with an EBA or proper disclosure, these fact which you so obviously overlook or should I say prefer not to see.

Whats wrong Rick? Agents not showing your discount listings? Did you ever buy that franchise? Do you actually still function as an agent? It is funny that you always claim that the traditional brokers are attacking the discounters, from your posts it is you the discounter that is attacking the traditional brokers...

Rick -
I looked at your bio - an "agent" huh -
Not a REALTOR?
To me that is like going to a OBGYN for a heart transplant -

Rick -
Another note, if you were a REALTOR and you believe that there was a violation, then you could file a complaint with your local board.
I am on my local board Grievance Committee and have been a REALTOR for 11+ years. I have found the only reason someone doesn’t want to be a REALTOR is to avoid being Ethical -

Salem, I have known more Realtors who where unethical than agents who didn't pay the 400-600 bucks for stupid pin.

Now as far as the OGBYN comment, I cringe to thing you don't have enough common sense to make a better comparason between professions.

NOW, back to the topic. I understand completely about the Buyer Broker Agreement and if the buyer understands that they may not see every home based on the agents bottom line and is completely not in there best interest, that is fine.

BUT!!! the point is there are a lot of agents out there doing just that, only showing certain homes without a BBroker Agmt. THIS FOLKS IS UNETHICAL and NAR TURNS A BLIND EYE!!! more like having a black eye if you ask me.

Care to post some actual stats to back up your comment? I mean you make these huge generalizations with no factual basis.

With an EBA a buyer is saying they will pay X% to the buyer broker, usually w/something along these terms... Buyer agrees to pay X% regardless of co-op offered, and/or Buyer will pay the difference of co-op fee to equal X%. And sometimes it's an hourly rate, or a flat fee, not a %. And the EBAs, at least the ones we use say that any and all listings in the MLS that fit the buyers' criteria & price range will be shown, as well as FSBOs. Wow. Yeah. Totally sounds unethical to me, really. :rolleyes:

All whine and no action. I think I'll just block him since he has nothing to offer. If he's an agent, let's see the license number. Otherwise, there HAS to be something better for him to do.

You seem really focused on NAR, but aren't doing anything except complaining. Maybe you can relieve some stress by volunteering at a local community group. Seriously.

Rick is just a loser and shows his ignorance with his every post. His only topics are how bad NAR is and how non-discount agents overcharge their clients. His first posts made it sound like he was an A2S broker but then it was he was going to purchase one and now 8 months later no word on that franchise purchase. He is most likely such a loser he cannot afford the paltry $19,500 franchise fee or worse yet they turned him down!