I am a Christian myself, but that Culture Warrior comment simply confirms that Paul has been Slirping up the KoolAid........................

OMG..

I just finally got to this post. What a racquet!

Sorry Ronald you are way off the mark as usual. My "outburst" as you call it was not at all angry. I was simply commenting on Chare's need to bring her political views to the topic throwing out the conservative comment and she felt compeled to let everyone know that she was a Democrat and Anti-Life. I simply pointed out to her that politics had no place in this topic. She then had to point out that she had to preface her comments by letting everyone know she attends church and in fact has an agent friend that sings in the Methodist Church Choir.

This was all started by someone asking if anyone used hismove.com and a few chose to to slam the site because of its pro-Christian stance. Chare also decided to comment that agents should only market based solely on their credentials and not personal things about the agents such as hobbies, Charities, Civic or Religious organizations or other activities we do when not selling Real Estate. This is a foolish statement as where we go and what we do makes up our sphere of influence

Ron if you feel so strongly about this perhaps you should turn down any business from anyone you attend church with if you go to church and you should definately not take any referrals from someone from church that refers you to a friend of theirs because in your words that would be UNPROFESSIONAL!

I do believe that hismove.com should modify the sentence that set Jerry W off but if you do not like the concept then do not participate in the referral network. Funny how you make comments on the "Hardcore Christians" but it was the Liberal that brought abortion and politics into the Christian Referral Network thread.


There's a difference between common interest and common religious beliefs. That difference has to do with the fact that riding harleys is just a fun pastime, while religious beliefs are deeply personal and very irrational. They motivate people to make judgments which may not be in everyone's best interest. Example: abortion. Everyone has their beliefs about it, but it's not the job of the government or any particular religious group to impose on others their opinion. Similarly with the teaching of evolution and other sciences.

That's was the reason why so many people have negative feelings associated with hardcore christians. They meddle too much in other people's lives and impose their will.


I propose we end this discussion here. The christians will never "get it" as to what the bickering is all about anyway. Suffice it to say, bringing religion into business is UNPROFESSIONAL. End of story. [/QB][/QUOTE]

DebT,
If you are going to comment you should at least get your facts straight so you can at least be factual.

It was Robert that used the SP/SAP reference and I simply made a comment based on that and judging by your dislike of the term Culture Warrior that can only mean you are a Secular Progressive. BTW I am watching The Factor even as I type this.

You are entitled to your opinion but on this you are wrong on the facts.


Jabronie,
Sorry no Kool Aid for me from either the Republicans or the Democrats. I much prefer the Truth to the talking points.

Well, now if I had the choice between the pearly gates and 72 virgins.....

Hangin out with Paul Oaks and Pat Boone
or
surfing on the lake of fire with Bill Hicks and Jimmy Hendrix?

In reply to Paul: Both of my children became vegetarians when they were quite young. The first thing I told them that under no circumstances were they to insult or deride or call people killers for eating meat and that we all had different beliefs and to really prothletize your position was to set a good example and people witll follow. I am liberal in many ways and in many ways not. I'm a real estate broker--I at least believe in owning private property. I resent "Christians" assuming that because I have a graduate degree in liberal arts and vote democrat that I am ungodly, anti-american, unpatriotic, and believe in a libertine life style. And I stand by my position that when people blurt out they are Christian is what they are really telling you is their political beliefs.

So what! People share their religious or political beliefs freely.... that's their choice.

Why be judgmental and snide by saying that by them introducing it into their business relationships it is unprofessional?

I agree that it is judgemental and merely my opinion. I really do not care what other agents or clients do as long as they are honest and ethical. These are observations I have made over the years. Today I will be showing homes to a Babtist preachers son whose parents I have bought and sold homes for for 20 years. We do not talk politics. As a Realtor I do not advertise my beliefs--I believe it is counter productive. If you want to put a fish on your business card, or a dog, or your handicap kid, or dress provocatively in adds--go for it.

Chare,

A person saying they are a "Christian" is not always a political statement and was definately not so in this thread. The fact that you resent Christians that are not afraid to say they are "Christian" is not their problem it is yours. You are fully responsible for your own feelings so if you feel uncomfortable then perhaps you should look within yourself for the answers to those feelings instead of blaming those around you.

Get real! It is a political statement! If you start telling me that you are a Christian the first 30 seconds I talk to you with out any provocation. It tells me that you are a politcal Christian conservative and I do not resent them I feel sorry for them because I believe it is a cult like the hare krishnas or moonies.

It is you that needs to get real and quit being so prejudiced about this. This hangup is your problem and not everyone elses!

It was YOU that jumped to a political context for this topic. From your tone it appears you are far left of center or perhaps an SP. Very typical in that you feel that your opinion is the only one that counts. Read the original post! This was not about politics but about a Christian Referral Network to which only the original poster seems to be a member of.


Funny how you relate Christians to the Moonies or Hare Krishnas. So what sect or cult do you belong to since you just said that Christians that do not hide their religion are cultists?

So tell us all how often "Christians" just come up to you and announce in the first 30 seconds that they are Christians without any provocation? Do Christians approach you at the dry cleaners, the grocery store, the car wash or while you are shopping? If they do what is it about you that seems to draw this kind of attention? Do you look lost or have that crazed non-believer look that compels them to reach out to "save" you? Perhaps they feel sorry for you?

My son used to belong to a church that did this. They would go to the mall or anywhere else with lots of people. According to the teachings of his church you weren't a Christian unless you belonged to their church. Finally after about 3 years he wised up and left the church.

I think these are the kind of Christians that people object to.

I understand perfectly what you are saying and would bet I could name the church in question within 2 guesses! What iritates me with Chare is that she seems have a "Christian" problem based on her political beliefs.
The funniest thing about this whole topic is that the referral network in question target markets to Christians and offers to place them with christian agents. If it is something you are not interested in then do not participate and move on!
People like Chare and others simply used this as an opportunity to take a slap at "christians" and that is the really sad part of this discussion.

Wow , i can't believe that this is on the way to beating out maryknoll's post.........


Paul , this topic prolly needs to die quickly , maybe moving it to shooting the breeze would help out a bit?