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#116664 - 12/03/06 09:11 PM Re: Christian Realtors
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Has anyone visited the "Christian Real Estate Network"?
no.


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#116665 - 12/04/06 05:24 AM Re: Christian Realtors
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BOY BOY!, If you want a post to take off just bring up the word Christian! To the Christians on this board: The Bible says that if the world loves you...you are not a Christian. I would like to thank all the people of the "world" on this board who has proven this. To the non-Christians on this board, Christians are not perfect. Have a great day. BigC
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#116666 - 12/04/06 06:32 AM Re: Christian Realtors
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Loc: san antonio, tx
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Originally posted by Broker/Appraiser:
... The Bible says that if the world loves you...you are not a Christian. I would like to thank all the people of the "world" on this board who has proven this.
Wow! It's statements like these that explain why so many people dislike religious Christians. A classic example of using self-pity and guilt to try to win others over: oh, look at us poor christians, we suffer for everyone's sins and in return we just get kicked around, wah! wah!

I've known some christians who are cool about their religion, but once again you guy prove my point. Those who show off their christianity are the arrogant and conceited ones.
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#116667 - 12/04/06 06:37 AM Re: Christian Realtors
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Anybody sell any houses this weekend?

I do agree that bringing up anything religous or political on an online forum will put people at odds with one another in no time. The original poster knew this when he started this topic. If I am incorrect and he did not know this, he /she must have never spent any time in an online forum. I have frequented lots of fourms surrounding different topics. When a topic involving religion is initiated, a brouhaha will certainly follow.
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#116668 - 12/04/06 07:21 AM Re: Christian Realtors
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Right on, smgardner. That's why I think religion has no place in politics or business. When you openly advertise your religion you'll always run the risk of alienating a lot of potential clients. I've never understood why businesses put jesus fishes on their yellow book ads. Is that supposed to be some secret society code? Are you trying to subtly let other christians know that you're cool to work with, while hoping the general public of heathens doesn't "get it"?
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#116669 - 12/04/06 07:26 AM Re: Christian Realtors
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Well, to clarify my post. I was by no means posting Pro-Christian or Anti-Christian. I keep my thoughts and beliefs to myself as they are personal. I was just pointing out that a firestorm will ensue when one starts a topic involving religion or politics.

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#116670 - 12/04/06 09:16 AM Re: Christian Realtors
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Jim,
The same thing can be said of someone referring an agent to someone on the CRS website so in that I agree. Just because you have a CRS or are a member of a particular referral network does not make you the best choice to market a particular piece of property.

Referral networks are just another means of marketing, no better and no worse than any other and that is my entire point in this discussion.

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Originally posted by Jim Lee:
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Originally posted by Paul Oaks:

Looks like they pass the disclosure test.
Not necessarily Paul.

I didn't mean just having it on the website.

Every Realtor that accepts any sort of buyer or seller referral from them would be ethically required to disclose to the consumer, the fact that he or she is rebating 25% of the commission back to HisMove.com for the 'privilege' of serving them (in addition to their 10% tithe of course :p )

In most states the real estate commissions compel that disclosure to a consumer of real estate services also.

I believe you'll also agree that a consumer doesn't always get the 'best and the brightest' by using licensees referred from any website or entity; this one included.

Being a Christian and practicing the tenets of your faith makes you a better person (hopefully) but does it necessarily make you a better Realtor???
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#116671 - 12/04/06 09:49 AM Re: Christian Realtors
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Jerry W, ronsmith and others that wish to bash religion based or sexual preference or race referral networks as it was mentioned by Jerry W. Here are just a few I located for you. Should you wish to find more just let your fingers do the walking over your keyboard.


http://www.shalomhome.com/

http://www.gayrealestate.com/

http://www.blackrefer.com/housing.html
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#116672 - 12/04/06 10:02 AM Re: Christian Realtors
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Paul, you are avoiding the issue that ignited this thread...

Nowhere in Shalomhome do I read that if you are Jewish, you should use a Shalomhome agent because they'll care more about you than an everyday agent, who'll care more about their commission than YOU! Unless I missed it, then I think there's nothing wrong with Shalomhome home...

Same thing with the other two sites.. Saying they'll represent your best interests is fine, it's the way that they say....

"Wouldn't you rather have a Christian agent that is more interested in YOU than in a commission???"

that kills it for me... What I take it by saying that is that NO other agent, even a buyer agent bound by Law, will care for you more than a Christian Agent.. even if that Christian Agent is a Seller's Agent, or a Facilitator, working with a buyer. The fact that the agent is a "Christian" agent sepercedes everything else. They are above all laws and Realtor ethics, simply because they are a "Christian" agent.

If the religion were Muslim, or Buddhist, or Scientologist, for that matter, instead of Christian, I would be just as disgusted.. It's not the religion, it's the implication...

Get the point?

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#116673 - 12/04/06 10:34 AM Re: Christian Realtors
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Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 3370
Loc: Central Illinois
Straight Shooter,
How you read what they put on their site is totally a matter of perception. Your Perception!

So what you are saying is you object ONLY to that Single sentence on the hismove.com site, it that right?

So exactly where on the site did you read that "The fact that the agent is a "Christian" agent sepercedes everything else. They are above all laws and Realtor ethics, simply because they are a "Christian" agent." or was this again your perception?

So I have a question for you. When you are doing a listing presentation do you "imply" that you are better than all your competition?

It is you that misses my point. This is ALL Marketing! The site owners have chosen to target market to Christians and judging by their marketing page they are doing just that! They then recruit Christian agents to whom they refer these buyers and sellers. Target Marketing 101!

Replace "Christian" with any group or lifestyle of your choosing and redirect the marketing to the new target client and you are in business.


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Originally posted by Straight Shooter:
Paul, you are avoiding the issue that ignited this thread...

Nowhere in Shalomhome do I read that if you are Jewish, you should use a Shalomhome agent because they'll care more about you than an everyday agent, who'll care more about their commission than YOU! Unless I missed it, then I think there's nothing wrong with Shalomhome home...

Same thing with the other two sites.. Saying they'll represent your best interests is fine, it's the way that they say....

"Wouldn't you rather have a Christian agent that is more interested in YOU than in a commission???"

that kills it for me... What I take it by saying that is that NO other agent, even a buyer agent bound by Law, will care for you more than a Christian Agent.. even if that Christian Agent is a Seller's Agent, or a Facilitator, working with a buyer. The fact that the agent is a "Christian" agent sepercedes everything else. They are above all laws and Realtor ethics, simply because they are a "Christian" agent.

If the religion were Muslim, or Buddhist, or Scientologist, for that matter, instead of Christian, I would be just as disgusted.. It's not the religion, it's the implication...

Get the point?
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#116674 - 12/04/06 11:25 AM Re: Christian Realtors
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Registered: 09/04/05
Posts: 479
Loc: Tampa, Florida
Paul:

You don't understand.

The world will just not be right until there is a Secular Angry Progressive (SAP) Referral Network so the truly enlightened can market to one another/sarc

Merry Christmas.
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#116675 - 12/04/06 11:34 AM Re: Christian Realtors
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Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 3370
Loc: Central Illinois
Robert,
Fortunately I do understand!

Merry Christmas and a profitable New Year from a fellow Culture Warrior ;\)

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Originally posted by rwilson99:
Paul:

You don't understand.

The world will just not be right until there is a Secular Angry Progressive (SAP) Referral Network so the truly enlightened can market to one another/sarc

Merry Christmas.
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#116676 - 12/04/06 05:42 PM Re: Christian Realtors
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Registered: 05/03/06
Posts: 274
Loc: SouthEast
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Originally posted by ronsmith:
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Originally posted by Broker/Appraiser:
... The Bible says that if the world loves you...you are not a Christian. I would like to thank all the people of the "world" on this board who has proven this.
Wow! It's statements like these that explain why so many people dislike religious Christians. A classic example of using self-pity and guilt to try to win others over: oh, look at us poor christians, we suffer for everyone's sins and in return we just get kicked around, wah! wah!

I've known some christians who are cool about their religion, but once again you guy prove my point. Those who show off their christianity are the arrogant and conceited ones.
You can think what ever you want buddy, I could care less. Your opinion is worthless to me. Self pity and guilt? Yea that's me. You think I'd beg anybody to be a Christian? Your a grown person,at least I hope you are..you can make your own choices in life. So come on and fire back at me if you want..The only reason I come to this board is for a good laugh anyway. Do everybody a favor and go sell something. BigC
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#116677 - 12/04/06 06:52 PM Re: Christian Realtors
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Registered: 06/24/06
Posts: 1074
Loc: Bucks County PA
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Originally posted by pikes peak:
What do they do different from other Realtors? Ask buyers and sellers to pray before signing?
lol.
Christin the house. Pray for the highest net amount possible.
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#116678 - 12/04/06 06:57 PM Re: Christian Realtors
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I can't even read anymore of this thread. 2 posts is enough.
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